There's been a lot of negativity on these forums lately. Too many people bashing Apple, but still purchasing their products. If you REALLY want to show Apple, and 'Stick it to the man', then vote with your wallet. Stop purchasing their products. That is the only way they'll get the hint. Otherwise, shut up, sit down and enjoy your new iDevice.
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With Android 5.0 Lollipop looking so good, where does iOS go from here?
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There's been a lot of negativity on these forums lately. Too many people bashing Apple, but still purchasing their products. If you REALLY want to show Apple, and 'Stick it to the man', then vote with your wallet. Stop purchasing their products. That is the only way they'll get the hint. Otherwise, shut up, sit down and enjoy your new iDevice.
It is exactly Mac vs Windows all over again In that Apple is derailing itself all over again. In the 90s Apple lost me because of overpriced junk they thought I wouldn't notice. Their previous product (original PowerBooks) was highest quality exceeding performance compared to everything else per dollar spent. Then scrap management came in and started counting beans and skimping on quality and they thought I'd buy because of reputation. I didn't come back until MacBook Air again blew everything away in terms of quality and performance per dollar, but that was like 15 years later. Then they had another hit with the 5s, still highest quality and performance per dollar. They're really blowing it this year, instead of spending money on materials and software engineers and hardware engineers to get down and dirty and build in the highest quality from assembly language optimization and alloy composition they blew billions on a rapper. Then blew us all off saying only nine phones are bent and there's no issue? 1 gig of ram in a thousand dollar phone? Apple has lost me once again. Maybe there will be another Jobs someday to straighten out the company again. Or maybe they'll crash for good this time who knows I can't predict the future.
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I already have quit giving them my money. I was ready to buy iPhone6 on announcement day. I was appalled at what junk they put out. I'm still stunned at what happened. Bendy 1gig phones and a rapper with a Hollywood slime weasel. And social consciousness. Barfo.
Maybe there is a parallel to Windows vs Mac OS. Windows 'Metro' looked refreshing and aesthetically pleasing but Mac OS remained the better experience package overall.
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Anyway, I was hoping we could have more contributions to the last part of the question:
Where does iOS go from here?
What can it do to keep looking pleasant, fun and superior to the competition?
Will it change at all visually? Eg how much has OSX changed visually to the way it has become now in Yosemite?
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Anyway, I was hoping we could have more contributions to the last part of the question:
Where does iOS go from here?
What can it do to keep looking pleasant, fun and superior to the competition?
Will it change at all visually? Eg how much has OSX changed visually to the way it has become now in Yosemite?
I know a few Android fans and even they admit for them it's Android for phones and Apple for Tablets.
Personally I am happy with both OS's overall. But ya I guess I fall in that camp too. Plus I like to be different. I live in southern California and every other person in the state it seems has an iPhone. I was at apple on launch day for the iPad 2 with my leather backed moto x and everyone kept asking me which Samsung phone I had. I didn't even try to correct them.
Full disclosure... I've been a long time Android purist starting with the old moto droid phones and going pure nexus. Running L on my N5 now, I must admit is quite smooth and pleasing. The N6 looks to be the real deal based on what is out there now on it. Still we will have to wait a bit longer for true reviews.
With that said I am seriously considering iPhone 6 for the following reasons...
- The notion of going to a device that takes zero effort / thought to use. Android has always been a source of tinkering whether it is custom ROMs, kernels and other tweaks. This is a benefit for many and maybe a conscious choice but the thought of being a "dumb" user is very appealing. The real benefit for me here is getting time and productivity back... hopefully.
- I have never owned an iPhone and now that the screen size larger, the time is right. Just that I have never owned an apple phone is almost enough to make the jump by itself. Let's see what all the fuss is about on the other side.
- I've always been impressed with apple design and hardware. I have a mbp and its great. The iPhone 6 like others before is a work of art which is appealing.
On the down side, what makes me nervous...
- I've become accustomed to a lot of android features and am heavily invested in the google ecosystem. Moving to apples walled garden may be too restrictive. I despise iTunes for example more than just about any sw on the planet.
- Bendgate and general hw issues. Not thrilled with some of the stuff floating around. This is apples first gen of a new form factor so does that mean more problems til they release the next gen?
Ultimately its between the iPhone 6 and Nexus 6, still on the fence about this whole thing but am leaning toward iPhone.
With that said I am seriously considering iPhone 6 for the following reasons...
- The notion of going to a device that takes zero effort / thought to use. Android has always been a source of tinkering whether it is custom ROMs, kernels and other tweaks. This is a benefit for many and maybe a conscious choice but the thought of being a "dumb" user is very appealing. The real benefit for me here is getting time and productivity back... hopefully.
- I have never owned an iPhone and now that the screen size larger, the time is right. Just that I have never owned an apple phone is almost enough to make the jump by itself. Let's see what all the fuss is about on the other side.
- I've always been impressed with apple design and hardware. I have a mbp and its great. The iPhone 6 like others before is a work of art which is appealing.
On the down side, what makes me nervous...
- I've become accustomed to a lot of android features and am heavily invested in the google ecosystem. Moving to apples walled garden may be too restrictive. I despise iTunes for example more than just about any sw on the planet.
- Bendgate and general hw issues. Not thrilled with some of the stuff floating around. This is apples first gen of a new form factor so does that mean more problems til they release the next gen?
Ultimately its between the iPhone 6 and Nexus 6, still on the fence about this whole thing but am leaning toward iPhone.
And this is a godsend, though I wouldn't be surprised if the phone companies botch up Android OS as they always have. It's just not worth the time and headache investing in Android OS.
Not to mention my two year old iPhone 5 is still kicking it. I mean I upgraded to the plus, order got cancelled, and now I'm thinking I'll keep it another year. Just that good.
I cannot understand those who are saying Apple are losing their way with iOS/iPhone. My iPhone 6 is the first and only iPhone I have ever owned and it's amazing. I was with Android beforehand. I can say hands down the experience with the iPhone is far superior. Performance has been flawless, the UI is gorgeous (imo) and everything just works for the most part. My experience with apps has been superior on iOS also and most of them are NOT identical.
Remember, different people have different tastes. If you're no longer interested in the iPhone then go Android. I switched the other way and don't regret my choice in the slightest.
Remember, different people have different tastes. If you're no longer interested in the iPhone then go Android. I switched the other way and don't regret my choice in the slightest.
I've stuck with my iPhone 5 as well. Now that apple has bumped prices for the unlocked phones I'm less inclined to buy one. I could easily get another year out of this model if I had to. I have been aching for a larger screen device but the iPhone 5 still feels like a good device.
Apple has been losing their touch with the iPhone since the original iPhone if you let them tell it. Just the same "doomed" garbage that gets spewed every year. With the iPhone 6/6 Plus selling more than any iPhone ever, so much that the things can barely be found in stock, Apple is far from "doomed", "losing their touch" or "in trouble".
What's even better, is when you bring up the fact that Apple is selling more iPhones every quarter, they usually come back with the "iSheep" or "more iDiots" response.
They aren't selling more iPhone's quarter of quarter. Q2 and Q3 have historically shown to sell far fewer iPhone's than Q1. YoY quarterly sales have always increased even if by just a minimal %. Maybe this is what you meant?
How exactly would you enjoy the "prettiness" of Lollipop when companies like Samsung install their garbage on top of Android and mangle the look/feel?
Bingo. You win and the thread is over. It's the one iOS feature that matters the least to android users and the most to Apple users. We tend to call this user experience smooth, fluid or sometimes even magical.
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Joker of the month award goes to...
You said so much crap that it's not even worth trying to educate you since I would have to go through every SINGLE sentence you wrote.
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Maybe I'm in the minority but as a long-time Apple user and iPhone owner since the first-gen, and an Android user for 3+ years, I see both iOS and Android as mature and feature-rich now.
Granted, they have a lot of similarities as well as some differences, which is a good thing. But, as someone who uses both on a daily basis, I could honestly not use either and still be more than happy with the other.
I don't see why one has to 'lose' in anyone's eyes.
For what it's worth, this year I chose the Note 4 over the 6+. TouchWiz is now smooth and responsive - a world away from what I experienced on the Note 2. This bodes well for Lollipop (which I'm looking for forward to comparing on a OnePlus One vs the TouchWiz variant. And I really do need a Stylus rather than a finger for Chinese language study writing.
I also think iOS can make better use of the phablet screen size, and would love to be able to position icons anywhere freely (the bottom three rows only work well on large devices).
These are small differences. Next year, it'll probably be the 7+ over the Note 5.
When it comes to tablets, though, Apple are significantly ahead in build quality and quality and availability of apps, particularly Education. And that's why I'd only sell my rMini for an Air or next year's Pro.
Granted, they have a lot of similarities as well as some differences, which is a good thing. But, as someone who uses both on a daily basis, I could honestly not use either and still be more than happy with the other.
I don't see why one has to 'lose' in anyone's eyes.
For what it's worth, this year I chose the Note 4 over the 6+. TouchWiz is now smooth and responsive - a world away from what I experienced on the Note 2. This bodes well for Lollipop (which I'm looking for forward to comparing on a OnePlus One vs the TouchWiz variant. And I really do need a Stylus rather than a finger for Chinese language study writing.
I also think iOS can make better use of the phablet screen size, and would love to be able to position icons anywhere freely (the bottom three rows only work well on large devices).
These are small differences. Next year, it'll probably be the 7+ over the Note 5.
When it comes to tablets, though, Apple are significantly ahead in build quality and quality and availability of apps, particularly Education. And that's why I'd only sell my rMini for an Air or next year's Pro.
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Like others have said, the Google made apps are really nice, but in most cases 3rd party ones are near as nice.
Quick comparison needed; I read most of the comments and we had good, purist and loyalist on both ends.
For guys who have enjoyed both Newer iPhones and Andriod L on either Nexus 5 or Moto 2014, has any one compared the day to day camera shots between two Phones/OSes
and how about battery life ? Is there any significant os that's better than the other when it comes to battery life ?
thanks in advance for the tip..
For guys who have enjoyed both Newer iPhones and Andriod L on either Nexus 5 or Moto 2014, has any one compared the day to day camera shots between two Phones/OSes
and how about battery life ? Is there any significant os that's better than the other when it comes to battery life ?
thanks in advance for the tip..
I was referring to pure Android. That's what the linked article was looking at.
You're correct that other skins often do make it worse.
Aesthetics over funcionality? - fuctionality and security wins any day
I'd like to see optional iOS updates:
1. Standard iOS update (as we know it)
2. Core iOS update (core OS with no extraneous apps)
leaving the end-user to decide what app to drive the hardware, removing the need for jailbreak
Note: All new phones would ship with Standard iOS.
Disclaimer on Core updates before update etc..
I'd like to see optional iOS updates:
1. Standard iOS update (as we know it)
2. Core iOS update (core OS with no extraneous apps)
leaving the end-user to decide what app to drive the hardware, removing the need for jailbreak
Note: All new phones would ship with Standard iOS.
Disclaimer on Core updates before update etc..
With Android 5.0 Lollipop looking so good, where does iOS go from here?
What can iOS change to make it *look* even better than it is to stay competitive? How will it end up improving aesthetically in the next two iOS cycles for example?
Likely the changes will be subtle.
What can iOS change to make it *look* even better than it is to stay competitive? How will it end up improving aesthetically in the next two iOS cycles for example?
Likely the changes will be subtle.
Don't get me wrong I'm a big fan of Pure Android but man the only AOSP handset out there is the Nexus. It's sad.
Motorola's Moto X/G is basically the same. It only includes a few Motorola specific apps.