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With Android 5.0 Lollipop looking so good, where does iOS go from here?

Risco said:
iOS is smoother, better integrated, better regulated, apps perform better and games don't run like turkey.

For reference tried both a Xperia Z2 and Samsung Galaxy S5 and neither could hold a candle to my iPhone 6.
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I fired up my Nexus 5 the other day for the first time in months. Wow, man this thing is fast and smooth was what I thought.

But it has crappy reception and misses calls all the time and you have to turn off almost all the features to get decent battery life. I'm looking forward to see if Project Volta fixes the battery life.

Saying iOS is smoother means you really haven't experienced a Nexus 5 using the ART runtime.

Needless to say my iPhone 6 is in my pocket and I hope Apple addresses the performance and terrible Safari experience soon.
 
Jeff Flowerday said:
Needless to say my iPhone 6 is in my pocket and I hope Apple addresses the performance and terrible Safari experience soon.
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Don't we all. I'm honestly shocked and surprised they decided to release it and gamble with what the public perception would be. Unfortunately it seems that various tech magazines and networks haven't really been bothered by it, hence the tech-community are the only ones voicing the issues with Safari (or iOS 8 in general).
 
Bobby Corwen said:
No, its not caught up.

And Ill give you an example.

Click on 4K resolution, full screen it, and go to the 11:00 mark where the guy is trying to browse the web. He tries to not make it obvious cuz he is super biased, but look at the way the pinch zoom responds on iOS and look at the hesitation on Android. Then he has trouble clicking the link.

Its the same concept with Mac trackpads vs Windows trackpads.

They just don't look and act as smooth, not as rich.

YouTube: video

And thats assuming its the beginning of your OS lifecycle. In 6 months who knows how it will behave after you fill it up and the file system gets slow.
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All I could look at in this video was his mangled fingernails. Nasty.
 
I think the single biggest problem of iOS 8 is the pile of garbage called Safari.

Previously it was cow feed in iOS 7. Now in iOS 8 it has become cow dung. Hopefully in iOS 9 it will become useful manure.

Safari keyboard lags in landscape mode on Air.

Has anyone else noticed reduced touch response from their devices after upgrading to iOS 8?

Android on the other hand seems to be much improved in 5.0.1 Lollipop. Feels a bit polished and runs with less stutters on Nexus 4/5 compared to iOS 8.1.1 on iPhone 5c/5s and 6.
 
Why do people make a big deal about customisation? Set your own wallpaper and you're good to go.
 
After iPhone 4, 4s, 5 and 5s I wanted to try out Android again. Bought a Nexus 5 and wow...user experience, play store, smooth; has it all. Back to my 5s only because the size dont fit my needs / pockets (its iPhone 6 size). Totally different from those touchwiz decices etc. Web browsing was to my surprise faster on both wifi and lte than my iPhone :-/
 
I been a android user for long time since android 2

I must say android has been evolving fast, but to be honest I moved to iPhone6 recently for many reasons... one of them was iOS is amazing, easy to use and fast as hell... you see Apple only has to deal with few of their own devices, their own hardware -- this is why you DONT need a BIG 3000 battery all because of how iOS is coded

I get 2 days out of my iPhone6 .. while i did have a galaxys4 which has way bigger battery size that would not last me one day

also i love the fact its 4.7 " all these new android phones are like holding a tablet .. FAIL
 
Apple has a lot to learn from Android in the "Oooooo! Look at that!" factor. Android still is learning how to make it as stable, smooth and work with all the phones and apps.

Apple is seriously looking at Android and Windows phones to see where it's loosing ground and what it should bring to the iPhone and iOS. This year we saw them take on the screen size concern. Next year we will see iOS improvements and camera upgrades. What I hope Apple learns from this year's phone is that battery life is going to be the next "feature" and I truly hope that takes off.
 
Drag'nGT said:
Apple has a lot to learn from Android in the "Oooooo! Look at that!" factor. Android still is learning how to make it as stable, smooth and work with all the phones and apps.



Apple is seriously looking at Android and Windows phones to see where it's loosing ground and what it should bring to the iPhone and iOS. This year we saw them take on the screen size concern. Next year we will see iOS improvements and camera upgrades. What I hope Apple learns from this year's phone is that battery life is going to be the next "feature" and I truly hope that takes off.
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In my opinion, Android OS needs a rewrite from the ground up and needs to tell carriers and phone manufacturers to keep their hands off it.
 
Lolipop is far to be perfect.
It gives terrible results on Nexus 7-2012, some Nexus4/5 have huge bugs (data lost, lags, battery drain) with Android 5.0 ...
Apple is not alone with bugs, some people (like me) have no (or very few) problem with iOS8.
 
Aesthetics are subjective, so the opinions stated in this thread on aesthetics/looks don't really matter. Its going to be different for each person.

UI is also subjective - I am used to iOS and my experience with my GNexus was different, but I preferred iOS. So I am biased.

MacOG728893 said:
I suppose some people just like the freedom or the idea of it being available. I use to be in to total customization, but now, all that I change is my wallpaper too.
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For me gone are the days where I need nth degree customization. I started off with Razr V3 heavy customization and skins. I also did 3GS and iPhone 4 Jailbreaking, after all that experience, I dont feel the need anymore. I use my phone to be productive, and I dont spend the time or have the time to customize. That's a win for me.

I have to make compromises with iOS, and that's ok.

Google maps pinch zoom on iOS is terrible compared to pinch zoom of Apple maps. Google maps doesnt feel real when you quickly zoom and let go, it zooms too much and for too long. Apple maps pinch zoom get its just right.
 
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Apple should make iOS 9 ROCK SOLID. Continue supporting older devices to differenatie from Android, and continue refining and adding new features. Stability and smooth ness should be the key, as this is what iOS 8 is missing.
 
So what percentage of android devices will actually run stock Android, rather than developers covering up that "awesome UI" with their own skins? :D
 
A large percentage of Apple iPhone enthusiasts seem so obsessed with trashing Android in order to bolster their argument that iOS and their apps are superior that it actually becomes fascinating.

For sake of this topic let's agree that Apple iPhones are indeed vastly superior.
So what?

Android and Apple are quite different other than both being smartphones. I've used both concurrently since 2007 enjoying each of them.

If you prefer one over the other then buy it, enjoy it, and if you must express your insecurity or justify your purchase, continue to show it by smearing the competition. Even if it means making up stories cause you really don't understand the other platform, apparently it fills some intrinsic need.

That way you may successfully avoid an intelligent discussion that actually accomplishes something.
 
MacOG728893 said:
I suppose some people just like the freedom or the idea of it being available. I use to be in to total customization, but now, all that I change is my wallpaper too.
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I used to customize my jailbroken iPhone so much, both the appearance and functionality. But now I don't even change my wallpaper. I'm using basic iOS 8 and Yosemite wallpaper at the moment.
 
Abazigal said:
So what percentage of android devices will actually run stock Android, rather than developers covering up that "awesome UI" with their own skins? :D
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Nexus phones, moto phones, and Sony phones seem to be the most stock like experience.

To the OP, lillipop looks very similar to IOS. The circle icons for phone calls, the notification badges, the animations. It is shockingly similar.
 
With Android 5.0 Lollipop looking so good, where does iOS go from here?

ravipiero said:
I used to customize my jailbroken iPhone so much, both the appearance and functionality. But now I don't even change my wallpaper. I'm using basic iOS 8 and Yosemite wallpaper at the moment.
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I don't customize with winter board, infinity folders, five icon dock crap anymore either. When it comes time to upgrade your phone to the next iOS version and when you restore from a backup, icons and folders are all out of place. I still jailbreak but I don't customize the looks of my phone.
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eprisencc said:
I don't customize with all that winter board, infinity folders, five icon dock crap anymore either. When it comes time to upgrade your phone to the next iOS version and when you restore from a backup, icons and folders are all out of place. I still jailbreak but I don't customize the looks of my phone.Image
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lol i always find it a bit funny when i see an iphone with more google apps than apple apps on the home screen.:D
 
machtv said:
lol i always find it a bit funny when i see an iphone with more google apps than apple apps on the home screen.:D
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I got a nexus 6 too. When I switch phones I am able to use pretty much the same apps on android. If I used Apple apps then I would be missing out when I use android.
 
oldmacs said:
Apple should make iOS 9 ROCK SOLID. Continue supporting older devices to differenatie from Android, and continue refining and adding new features. Stability and smooth ness should be the key, as this is what iOS 8 is missing.
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I really hope they focus on stability and consistency in iOS 9. Some of things I've seen in 8 remind me of when I got fed up with android and switched to iPhone in the first place! Gestures don't work on the iPad (5 finger home screen for example), keyboard doesn't resize correctly when going to landscape, sometimes the phone won't move into landscape right away, etc. I'm really surprised Apple would release something that feels so unfinished.

I really don't like any of the Android phones, hardware-wise. But I have to say I've been tempted to give it another try after the last two releases from Apple.
 
I'm honestly fascinated by Android's Material Design. The design language is comprehensive and doesn't lack coherence and the guidelines are strict, with many examples and pixel-perfect component descriptions. Animations and shadows give it a very realistic and playful aesthetic that I only knew of iOS. I've been playing with it on my brother's Android phone and it's a delight to use. I cannot quite put my finger on it, but I think this time Google is the one who made the next step. I miss this on iOS.

The design of iOS 7/8 is not consistently used, developers either don't implement Apple's design guidelines fully (many apps don't use the frosted-glass effect properly) or conflict with it by introducing new UI elements that don't always work with the style (e.g. some developers like bringing back shadows, gradients or rich design in general). I think Google may have formulated the better guidelines and the third-party apps that have been updated look absolutely fantastic.
 
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machtv said:
lol i always find it a bit funny when i see an iphone with more google apps than apple apps on the home screen.:D
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What's sad is that Google apps look and perform better on iPhone than they do on Android.
 
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