Uh, nope, not "Everyone." Only those with the iPhone 6/6+ who tried installing the update OTA during the hour or so it was available before getting pulled. FWIW, the issue was with the delta installation package, since people who installed using iTunes and installed the full installation file did not lose cell reception.
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With Android 5.0 Lollipop looking so good, where does iOS go from here?
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Uh, nope, not "Everyone." Only those with the iPhone 6/6+ who tried installing the update OTA during the hour or so it was available before getting pulled. FWIW, the issue was with the delta installation package, since people who installed using iTunes and installed the full installation file did not lose cell reception.
I have come from Android to IOS with the Iphone 6 plus.
I loved the customization of android and i miss using google now integrated into the OS. The problem I had with Android is if you are not on a Nexus, You hardly ever see updates, and even when you get them, because they lay over there own Skin on top of it, you hardly notice a difference or any new features.
And a part from the new nexus 6, all past nexus phones have either had bad battery life, bad camera etc basically something bad to make it as cheap as possible, so you always had to go to samsung, htc etc to get the Latest and greatest hardware, but you never get the latest software on those phones, unless you hack it, which i never wanted to do because i want my phone to work out of the box.
I think what google have done with android and material design is truly beautiful, I think it looks far more beautiful that IOS. I also love the fact they now have even more design consistency than even apple.
a few things i miss most with android is the App draw, I hate the fact in IOS, you just have walls and walls of apps, I just want the apps I use most on my home screen, and the rest organised inside an app draw out of site.
I also hate the fact i cant make certain apps default on IOS.
I also think what google did with there phone app was awesome and miss it heaps, simply time in pizza hut and boom you have the number, or when an unknown business calls, boom you know exactly who it is.
What i will say though is Imessage is amazing, the Os for me has been reliable, Touch ID I probably cant ever lose, and the apps on IOS look most consistent and beatuiful than some of the android counter parts.
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all those phones you mentioned are a drop in the bucket compared to the whole android world. I would wager not even one percent have the latest OS
I loved the customization of android and i miss using google now integrated into the OS. The problem I had with Android is if you are not on a Nexus, You hardly ever see updates, and even when you get them, because they lay over there own Skin on top of it, you hardly notice a difference or any new features.
And a part from the new nexus 6, all past nexus phones have either had bad battery life, bad camera etc basically something bad to make it as cheap as possible, so you always had to go to samsung, htc etc to get the Latest and greatest hardware, but you never get the latest software on those phones, unless you hack it, which i never wanted to do because i want my phone to work out of the box.
I think what google have done with android and material design is truly beautiful, I think it looks far more beautiful that IOS. I also love the fact they now have even more design consistency than even apple.
a few things i miss most with android is the App draw, I hate the fact in IOS, you just have walls and walls of apps, I just want the apps I use most on my home screen, and the rest organised inside an app draw out of site.
I also hate the fact i cant make certain apps default on IOS.
I also think what google did with there phone app was awesome and miss it heaps, simply time in pizza hut and boom you have the number, or when an unknown business calls, boom you know exactly who it is.
What i will say though is Imessage is amazing, the Os for me has been reliable, Touch ID I probably cant ever lose, and the apps on IOS look most consistent and beatuiful than some of the android counter parts.
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all those phones you mentioned are a drop in the bucket compared to the whole android world. I would wager not even one percent have the latest OS
actually, over 30% of all Android phones that accessed the Play Store last month are running Android Kit Kat aka the latest version of the OS, so that is a bit more than what you believe.
In fact, there are almost more Android phones running Kit Kat than all iPhone's combined (data as of Oct 14). Marketshare for Kit Kat 4.4 and above is 9% and all iOS combined is 14% worldwide market share.
Kit Kat isn't the latest is, loli pop is, kit Kat has also been out for about a year now. So I would say 9 percent is a terrible figure considering
1. It's been out for over a year
2. A new is has already come out.
3. There are still a huge amount of devices running two year old is in jelly bean.
Not to mention the fact it takes months upon months for the likes of Samsung to implement the new os. Then it takes months for the carrier to put all there crap on it as well.
I had the note 3 as soon as it came out. I was waiting about 4 months and decided this wait ain't good enough so got a nexus 5. It finally got kit Kat the note 3 after I sold it and even then nothing much really changed because the skin Samsung has put on it.
Anyway my point is , if people buy an android device they should get a nexus or a device that has pure android.
Simply because if you buy anywhere else you simply aren't getting a true android device. If you look at the completely different UI of Samsung etc it behaves nothing like Google intends it do. And it takes a hell of a lot longer to get the latest OS , if it ever does.
Samsung and Sony suck at updates. Motorola and HTC are good at getting updates out quickly. This is a known fact, you don't want to wait, buy something other than Samsung or Sony.
BTW, Motorola, LG and HTC are putting out near stock Android OS on their phones. Samsung is really the only major OEM that still skins the crap out of Android.
Basically, if you want timely updates and a vanilla Android experience don't buy Samsung or Sony. Simple.
P.S. Saying Lollipop is the latest OS is like saying iOS 8.1.1 is the latest. It hasn't been released to the masses yet.
But more importantly, if Apple didn't force people to upgrade to iOS 8, do you think the rate of adoption would be lower than the 50% we see now after almost 2 months since release? Hell, my iPad and iPod can't even update to iOS 6 or iOS7 (respectively). Forever stuck on old versions. Kinda sucks.
I agree with Motorola but LG has gone down the Samsung route , they have improved in the last generation but they are still far from pure. HTC in terms of skins are basically as bad as samsung , only that I think design wise they are one of the best in the business and they have actually improved some things that pure android hasn't. Unlike Samsung where I think have just changed things for the same if change and too out there footprint on Samsung. I would actually say Sony is near android pure as almost anyone as well.
Saying lollipop is the latest OS is like saying IOS8 is the latest OS more like it. They came out pretty much the same time ( maybe a few weeks apart) however I can guarantee you that when a new iOS is released I can't instantly choose to install it or not. With android I will have to wait to update , it's not a choice wether to update or not ( your not forced to on IOS either ) but you have to wait for a process of
1: Google to release it to manufacturers
2. Manufacturers to implement what parts of the system they want to implement it.
3. Give the software updates to the carriers
4. Carriers to implement the changes see what they want to add.
5. Then you get the software.
Google has had this problem since the day it began and it really needs to try and figure out a way to change things.
It's tried by splitting up all there apps into the play store so even if you own a old version , you can have a lot of the feature , apps and even part of the experience all by downloading apps and the android experience app.
However it needs to toughen up and give manufactuers more rules or a new method of skinning a product, one that is easier to get up dates and easier to get pure android expierence.
Also I have never been forced to update an IOS device , it keeps me a notification in the setting that says an update is available and I have the option to download it.
Your iPad ( I'm assuming it's the original ) it 4 years old and considering how fast mobile technology has improved in that time, it's not suprising. The fact it also had 250mb (???) if ram is probably another reason. Mobile tech has moved at such a fast rate as I said that it's not at all suprising. Some of the figures Apple released the other month about the GPU of the latest iPad being 120 x more powerful ( I think it was a 120 ) says it all.
In the normally desktop world that type of improvement in guessing is une hard of in a 4 year period. So yea people who bought earlier smart phones are screwed because the amount of progress it has made, obviously that will slow down and probably for the better in some cases but yea different discussion.
iOS is smoother, better integrated, better regulated, apps perform better and games don't run like turkey.
For reference tried both a Xperia Z2 and Samsung Galaxy S5 and neither could hold a candle to my iPhone 6.
For reference tried both a Xperia Z2 and Samsung Galaxy S5 and neither could hold a candle to my iPhone 6.
Spoken like a true apple fanboy.
I have the iphone 5, the 5s, and the iphone 6
I also have the xperia z2, htc one m8, nexux 5, galaxy s5.
Both IOS and android work fine, both have their own look and feel.
Both this year have major bugs.
To me the screens and customization on android far outweighs iOS
Apps do not preform better on iOS as a matter of fact take any of your devices and hit the facebook icon what do you see???
the xperia z2 you said you own and the iphone 6 side by side??
what you WILL see is the news feed loads at least 3 times faster on the ANDROID device. they just have better and faster wifi.. sorry champ but that is a fact..
You can customize android better, and each company comes up with tweaks that the other copies the next year...
This debate will go on til the end of time bottom line is both phone operating systems each have advantages both are made for different.
But this year BOTH HAVE BEEN BUGGY AS HELL, I am sure that is one thing we can agree on...
No, it is my opinion and my experience. Almost everything I did on iOS that was baked in was either half assed, missing or required a separate application that was never perfect on Android. Then factor in the loss of iCloud photo sharing which is a MASSIVE thing for me along with iTunes match and Apple TV integration....
Also the customisation thing is WAY overrated. Android is for people on a budget or people who want to be different like Linux users.
Yeah so true. Half baked is what I would describe ios. Like the crippled email which can't do attachment. Or the video player which can play one format only and can't do subtitles. Or the camera that is so devoid of functions that even a kiddie camera can do more. Or the crippled bluetooth or nfc. Or the mangled apple map. Or the music player which can't create playlist and have no equalizer. Or phone dialer that can't do predictive match. Or the gallery which cant do folders and make a big mess by lumping together all kind of photos. Or have the home button do confusing multi use. Or have the centralized settings which takes forever to find the settings you want. Or copy android share capability. Or unable to install apps from the browser. Or can't download files directly to the disc. Or wipe you data when you Uninstaller an app.
Apart from that many things still need catching up to android. it is great for ios users to be able to look forward to so many things that will be copied from android for years to come.Apart from that though, its great!!
I think Lollipop looks WAYYY better than iOS 8. However, the Google's real problem is developer support. It's an iOS first world, and dev's tend to treat Android apps as a "when we get to it" and "when we do, it's really for selected devices".
There's just so many darn Android devices it's impossible for devs to maintain with UI changes to Google's OS. - especially when much more money is made on iOS for them. Any profit seeking dev will choose iOS first. Just look at how Google struggles with getting devs to make good looking tablet apps. Devs rather just blow up the phone version, then get back to making iOS apps.
edit: And this extends to Microsoft's problem. If you think devs got time or resources to spend developing Windows 8 Phone apps, you're in dreamland. The 3rd platform is defunct by default.
There's just so many darn Android devices it's impossible for devs to maintain with UI changes to Google's OS. - especially when much more money is made on iOS for them. Any profit seeking dev will choose iOS first. Just look at how Google struggles with getting devs to make good looking tablet apps. Devs rather just blow up the phone version, then get back to making iOS apps.
edit: And this extends to Microsoft's problem. If you think devs got time or resources to spend developing Windows 8 Phone apps, you're in dreamland. The 3rd platform is defunct by default.
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COMPETING?? LOL wow you are lost iOS is just.. yes Just getting features Android has had... since 2009.
My iphone 6 just got NFC?
Android devices have had nfc for a long time.
Also where is the indicator light on Iphone?
where is the Ir to be able to control the tv with it?
These hardware things will be trickled in over time with iPhones and considered "REVOLUTIONARY" once again by the fool on stage after they quietly know ANDROID has been doing these same things for YEARS..
Also try to get your aftermarket KEYBOARD in your new iPhone to work reliably on everything you need to type into and o where is the microphone button on the aftermarket keyboards?? why can I not use a microphone when using the aftermarket keyboard? Because it does not exist.. apple won't allow it "yet" it to may be added YEARS down the road and then called "revolutionary" and you will drool all over it..
Bottom line Each OS has its Pluses and minuses..
APPLE HAS GREAT SUPPORT IF THERE IS SOMETHING WRONG WITH A DEVICE
But to say that "At least android is competing" when they have been LEADING for years is a wrong statement to make..
O and apply pay is nothing new paypal and google wallet work just fine with almost ALL credit cards and its the same basic NFC connection..
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Ecactly sure i own many phones and I still have my nexus 5 with the preview on it and it works great, battery life is still about as good as an iphone 5 on them though... but they are a great phone.
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actually as of today the posting shows that FEWER people this year are coming FROM android to iphone... a lot fewer..
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Are you really that simple ?
andrid and iOs both use a *nix base..
install an aftermarket keyboard on your new iphone 6 and see how it integrates with every app you need to type into... IT DOES not... each app like the app store will default to another keyboard, the web browser might keep the keyboard you installed..
o and there is no microphone on the aftermarket keyboards to use dictation.
it has no ir blaster, no indicator light, just got nfc and is totally only locked to apple pay as of now.
I own both os devices and will keep my iphone 5s, and iphone6 but they are far from up to date compared to android and I use both...
3 main issues I won't use Android.
1) No equivalent of an iCloud restore without rooting.
2) Lack of hardware buttons is frustrating to me. If an app is hanging, in iOS hitting the home button will close it almost instantly. Android will lag for awhile in my experience. Have not used 5.0 however.
3) Updates to your phone may never happen or not anytime after the OS is released. At least with iOS i can test out the new stuff in beta if I wish and have it the day it comes out. Just today the Nexus phones are finally getting 5.0 awhile after it was announced and released.
1) No equivalent of an iCloud restore without rooting.
2) Lack of hardware buttons is frustrating to me. If an app is hanging, in iOS hitting the home button will close it almost instantly. Android will lag for awhile in my experience. Have not used 5.0 however.
3) Updates to your phone may never happen or not anytime after the OS is released. At least with iOS i can test out the new stuff in beta if I wish and have it the day it comes out. Just today the Nexus phones are finally getting 5.0 awhile after it was announced and released.
It's also why Google's iOS apps get on my nerves - I wish their apps stuck to the design schemes of iOS as opposed to the Android designs. I hate that i can't swipe to go back for example. It's detrimental to the experience not only the iOS platform but on their apps when they try to implement Android design on iOS as well.
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I wish i could say something for using Android - alas i have not had the chance. What i can say though, is the system wide design of Android Lollipop looks absolutely fantastic. I remember watching an interview of Matthias or whatever his name is explaining the design choice of Android L, and it made me realise how you can have a sense of skeuomorphism without the hideousness that pre iOS 7 had. I appreciate both the current OS designs, but i think Google are really tightening ship when it comes, at least to their own apps and operating system, design and like where they're heading.
Major caveat however, Google don't seem to stick with one thing and roll with it, they have a proclivity to change constantly and that's the fundamental problem with fragmentation on Android i think.
I actually want Apple to be overtaken. They are currently sitting on their laurels with an half-assed iOS 8 which has terrible performance on new and a year old devices. Still riddled with bugs and the fact that they left out one huge bottleneck with the iPhone 6 (RAM) has left me not upgrading, for now.
Point is, I think we need them to get that kick and fear in order to improve.
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Yes, I was wrong. Thank you pointing out that some minor handsets come in pure android edition but that still doesn't change the fact that the majority of Android handsets sold out there are not pure Android.
what is pure Anroid? Google's own stock Android is pure Android? Google's own stock Andorid is merely what Google want Android be and Samsung's Android is merely a UI on top of Android kernel. So in a sense, Google's stock Android is Google's own skin.
If you want pure Android, then you need flash your phone to Android kernel without any UI. That is what pure Android is. Google is merely providing kernel to OEMs and OEMs are putting UI layer on top of kernel.
So way to say this is that only Google shipps with its stock Android. Moto's line up is next thing close to stock Android.
AOSP, Stock, Pure, Vanilla all reference the same thing. Android the way Google intended it.
Any UI layers added to it like Samsung's touchwiz, Motorola's Blur, HTC's Sense take away from the pure experience.
Cyanogen (closest to stock android) runs faster and takes up less memory on a Galaxy S5 than Samsung's touchwiz. That's the experience I'm referring to.
not just the Nexus 6. the 4, 5, 7, 9 and 10 all have this with Android 5.0. the Moto X had the backup feature last year and is pretty much vanilla Android.
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see above response for your 1 and 3.
as for #2, the Android Home Button may be capacities but does the same thing as Apple's analog version. however, if worse comes to worse on a serious hang, you have a power button to force the phone into sleep mode and close the app that was hanging. so that equates to your need for a hardware button, does it not?
Why is nobody talking about the single biggest problem android has? All i can see here is a bunch of selfish self centered opinions. Nobodys talking about the real problem.