You mean Moto stopped adding "Moto Blur" to their handsets? There is hope after all.
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With Android 5.0 Lollipop looking so good, where does iOS go from here?
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You mean Moto stopped adding "Moto Blur" to their handsets? There is hope after all.
Incorrect. All the new Android One phones, all the various Google Play Edition phones, the Motorola Moto X phones and the Nexus phones all utilize stock Android.
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You are right. On iOS you have apps force close with no warning or indication of why it happened. I prefer Androids way in this case.
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Camera is better on the iPhone.
I think it goes beyond just iOS and that's what Apple's playing on. OS X and iOS offer integration that Android simply can't.
Still, Android is pretty good, but I like the centralized strict of iOS: one place for apps, relative assurance of security, one company if you're having issues, and fairly consistent.
Still, Android is pretty good, but I like the centralized strict of iOS: one place for apps, relative assurance of security, one company if you're having issues, and fairly consistent.
Note that iOS 7/8 UI is a very bad ripoff of Android 4.* Holo UI. "Material Design" is the evolution of the Holo UI, so Apple's attempt is not just disgusting, it's already outdated, while the classic iOS UI is not outdated as it's good enough to stand out of fashion.
I have noticed exactly the opposite here - Android looks smoother, richer, nicer and faster.
How long before the general public complains that the current iOS design language is getting stale and needs another complete redesign?
General public wasn't complaining. It was jaded tech bloggers and easily bored forum posters that pushed that meme along. And when iOS did undergo a radical UI change, they were the first ones to complain, presuming that everybody else hated iOS 7 as much as they did (even if iOS 7 became the most rapidly adopted iOS ever).
In my experience, general public has been complaining about iOS 7/8 design ever since it appeared.
None of that matters because the one Android phone maker that's in the spotlight the most (Samsung) does not run the AOSP version of Android.
Again, incorrect. Samsung does have a Google Play Edition version of the Galaxy S series.
Yes they do. It would be interesting to see exactly how many of those models they've actually sold, though. We never will see that, since Samsung hardly releases numbers outside of the first month of a flagship release, and never breaks it down by model type.
I can't stand the Galaxy tab we have at work but that's because it has a Samsung centric version of android and it's simply obnoxious. That being said, having a Google device like the nexus is a different ball game. The one I messed with was pretty freegin nice and exceeded my expectations for android devices.
At least android is competing....that ends up being good for US. Apple will have to keep on their toes and that's a good thing.
At least android is competing....that ends up being good for US. Apple will have to keep on their toes and that's a good thing.
Yes. Two years ago they did. There is no closer version of pure android than on Motorola devices.
How many users do you think actually know what "Google play edition" means?
A lot of the time we look at things through the eyes of a techie/geek and forget what it's like to look at the world as the average person.
That wasn't the point you were trying to make, so stop tap dancing.
Your last quote:
You likely didn't even know about Google Play Edition phones, much less that Samsung made one, but you also aren't the demographic looking at Google either.
Anyone that uses Google and logs in to the Play Store could look at all the hardware for sale, which includes Chromecasts, Chromebooks, Nexus phones, GPe phones (like Samsungs), along with tablets, etc... You see, it is kind of like the Apple Store and yes, millions of people do visit the website, so are familiar with GPe devices, and this includes the average person.
If the pure Android experience was so widely spread Google wouldn't have begun their Android Silver project
http://www.theverge.com/2014/4/29/5664702/google-nexus-to-be-replaced-by-android-silver
Of course manufacturers are resisting this initiative because they want to continue installing their bloatware garbage on handsets and selling the experience as "Android".
The point is as great as Lollipop may be, the masses will most likely not see it unless they buy these "Google edition" handsets. Walk into any Wireless carrier store and see if you can even spot a "Google edition" handset.
For those who want the pure android experience they know where to go. The rest of the population either doesn't know what Kitkat or Lollipop is or they think Touchwiz is Android and then are surprised when someone else's Android phone looks different than theirs.
Exactly. Android is buttery smooth these days on lesser hardware as well, while iOS is a glitch stutter mess. Sony phones (I'm eying the Sony forums now to see if that's my next phone but waiting for issues to arise on the new releases) are UNDERwaterproof, have magnetic quick charging, tiny bezels, don't bend, 20Mp camera, etc etc etc etc and zero software limitations. Last year the 5s with 7.1.2 was the best phone on the market. This year, NOT lol.
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lol upvote competition lol
What exactly does 20 megapixel camera mean? The Plus and 6 both take videos and better then Sony's "super powerful and amazing...wait for it.... 20 MEGAPIXELS !"
http://www.dxomark.com/Phones/Apple-iPhone-6-and-6-Plus-review-Bigger-and-better.-Apple-set-gold-standard-for-smartphone-image-quality
And you say "doesn't bend?"
http://www.ubergizmo.com/2014/11/sony-xperia-z3-owner-reports-frame-bending-issue/
^^.....lol........
Sorry but no one will be forcibly bending our phones I dont think, bending is really not a issue unless you sit on your devices then you deserve to break them/damage them if you sit on your glass front smartphone display(dont you know not to press hard on glass display to damage the screen anyway??)
I give credit for underwater, that is a neat feature, there are tradeoffs with going with the Z3 though (worse display, not as good camera, few others) but its whatever you like though
Not arguing about what is, or is not popular, or what the masses may or may not know. That wasn't my point, nor your point that I had contention with. I'm simply calling you out on what was an ignorant comment regarding Android phones.
Thanks for pointing out the bending issue. I'm still looking for the perfect hardware, kind of the Porsche of phones. IPhone 6 ain't it. Maybe Xperia ain't it neither. Maybe Lenovo/Moto will come up with something but Moto X ain't it neither too.
Consistency is becoming an afterthought unfortunately. Big companies, like Google, will use their own look on iOS platform thus ripping you out of the nice consistent UI into their world of material design. See Google drive, YouTube, etc. this erodes experience considerably and well, Google is not to be ignored. No matter how I try I can't ignore google's search, maps and YouTube.
I was tempted to switch to Android with Lollipop looking so good. But I thought to myself that with Apple selling a huge bucketload of iPhone's and the mass exodus of people abandoning Android to upgrade to a 6/6+, it would be silly to switch platforms now. No developer in the right mind will focus on Android or "Material Design". They are all busy making iOS8 apps.
So it's basically developers keeping me on iOS. Can just hope Apple fixes performance and glitches quickly.
So it's basically developers keeping me on iOS. Can just hope Apple fixes performance and glitches quickly.
I seriously have to wonder what the hell you're smoking and request that you please don't state your nonsensical opinions as fact. iOS 7/8 has more in common with the material UI than Holo. If anything iOS 6 has more UI elements in common with Holo. The iOS 6 UI would be outdated now but seeing as iOS 7 was doing things Android Lollipop has only just started to catch up with.
Neither look is better as aesthetics are purely subjective but the way you stated your opinions like fact was just outrageous.
Again guys, I'll repeat myself. If you prefer Android use Android. If you prefer iOS use iOS. Neither platform is in any trouble from the other and show no signs of being.
Which part of my "most people won't see Lollipop in its purest form" is ignorant exactly? Unless you are referring to something else?
You said only the Nexus line of devices ran stock Android. When he proved you wrong you starting wriggling.
After using Lollipop I like pretty much everything about it better aside from its integration with other devices. That's the reason I stick with iOS.
iOS 8.1 isn't exactly the best experience I've had with iOS even on the iPhone 6.
I don't know why Apple gets a pass on bug filled software while Android devs are apparently idiots. Everyone with a 6 that downloaded iOS 8.0.1 lost cell reception, I mean come on why would we call other devs talents into question?!
iOS 8.1 isn't exactly the best experience I've had with iOS even on the iPhone 6.
I don't know why Apple gets a pass on bug filled software while Android devs are apparently idiots. Everyone with a 6 that downloaded iOS 8.0.1 lost cell reception, I mean come on why would we call other devs talents into question?!