Working iPhone 4? PROVE IT!!

[Willis]

That's pointless unless there is another iPhone in the same picture which shows a defect. Read the original post again.

ANYWHERE? Wow you've covered the whole world? I guess that's all the evidence we need.

There are plently of threads where you can leave that comment. Here we are looking for proof.

These are just some of the post you've made which don't help at all.

yes, there's an issue with the signal and how it's shown and yes, most people have it. but seriously, if you don't like it, don't just moan about it as it doesn't resolve a god damn thing.

theres mutterings of a software update so either wait it out or just keep your thoughts to yourself. better yet, return the phone

/rant

on the flip side, mine has this issue but I don't hold my phone with a club fist, so I'm not actually bothered. It's better than my 3G, its clearer to hear people and doesn't lag to hell on 4.0. on that basis, I don't see a fault with my phone

 

[HLdan]

4.) Any CEO who issues a blanket "there is no problem" statement this early is speaking foolishly...it's ok to be wrong, especially in business, as long as you admit it, apologize, and "wow" your customers with your fix solution.

You're only looking at this from a customer standpoint and not a business one. The statement Jobs sent out may have sounded short-sighted and non-caring to anyone who even knew about it, but from a business standpoint that made sense and it would be completely stupid of him to admit there is a problem and apologize for it in under a week since the release of a new product. Apple's stocks would plummet big time.

 

[Beau10]

These are just some of the post you've made which don't help at all.

I'm inclined to agree, as they didn't seem to stem the flow of posts such as your own.

To the OP: you're my hero. The static in this thread is unfathomable, fetal position inducing stuff. I couldn't be nearly as well composed. Holding off on my I4 purchase until this issue is better understood. If there is indeed a hardware/manufacturing variance, great, I'll wait until they work out the supply chain kinks. So far it seems that isn't the case. Thank you for your efforts here.

 

[iCHiRS]

and we need to justify this issue to the OP because.....why? If you or anyone else has "reception" issues from holding the phone a certain way and you're not happy with it, then return it. BOOM! Simple fix.............

 

[syniceboy]

iPhone 4

Hey guys i just got an iPhone 4 32gb from craigslist and the phone was purchased on some guys name, and now when i plug it into the computer it asks me for his zip code and last 4 of his S.S., is there a way i can bypass this screen, because it wont even let me get into the phone?

please help!!!

 

[trespinosranch]

Hey guys i just got an iPhone 4 32gb from craigslist and the phone was purchased on some guys name, and now when i plug it into the computer it asks me for his zip code and last 4 of his S.S., is there a way i can bypass this screen, because it wont even let me get into the phone?

please help!!!

You may need a new Sim card. You may want to post this elsewhere to get more responses.

 

[admanimal]

and we need to justify this issue to the OP because.....why? If you or anyone else has "reception" issues from holding the phone a certain way and you're not happy with it, then return it. BOOM! Simple fix.............

I don't think he ever said he was or wasn't happy with the phone (or if he even has one for that matter). All he did was suggest an excellent way to determine whether there really might be phones that have the reception issue and those that don't, or if all phones are the same and they behave differently based mostly on signal quality in a location. The wacky OP of this thread somehow assumed that people would be interested in this, possibly due to the fact that it's been the main topic of conversation on MR for 5 days now.

This information could be really helpful for:

1. People who are considering buying a phone. If we can prove that some are 100% working, then it's probably worth it to just try your luck and buy one.

2. People who have a phone that has the signal problem. If there are some phones that don't, then it might be worth swapping for a new one.

3. People who haven't had the signal problem yet. If it turns out some phones really are 100% problem free, then awesome for these people. If it turns out all phones are broken, then it would be good for these people to know that they should take advantage of any repair/replacement options Apple might end up offering.

 

[frosse]

Wow, this thread really is retarded.

I think it's a matter of bad batches for some of you, sorry bro.

 

[spiritlevel]

Wow, this thread really is retarded.

I think it's a matter of bad batches for some of you, sorry bro.

It's not the thread that's retarded bro...

The OP is a saint, he has shown incredible restraint dealing with so many abusive posts when his request is totally reasonable - and after 13 pages, still unfulfilled.

Until I read this thread, I honestly didn't realise just how many people were able to write, but not read.

From the poll, about 50% of people think their iphone does not exhibit reception issues. From this thread, about 50% of posters were obviously absent on the day that God was handing out brains.

Coincidence?

 

[Daveoc64]

Wow, this thread really is retarded.

I think it's a matter of bad batches for some of you, sorry bro.

Bad batches made over a period of a month, in several factories around the world, then shipped to all 5 countries where the iPhone 4 launched - in 16 and 32 GB varieties. That sounds like a small batch to me!

 

[stlredbird]

and after 13 pages, still unfulfilled.

Obviously you missed the video link a couple pages back

 

[Rootus]

I think some people are naturally good antennas, and some people are anti-antennas . So far, every time I've tried the 'bridge the antennas' trick on my iPhone, I've actually gained a bar when the reception indicator wasn't already at 5 bars. A friend of mine can reproduce the problem, even using my phone, but I can take it from his hand and it works just fine for me. I do feel bad for you anti-antenna guys -- if I were in your shoes I'd be pretty pissed off too.

 

[spiritlevel]

Obviously you missed the video link a couple pages back

Obviously you missed the comment by the person who made the video saying they spoke too soon...

 

[Minimoose 360]

I think some people are naturally good antennas, and some people are anti-antennas . So far, every time I've tried the 'bridge the antennas' trick on my iPhone, I've actually gained a bar when the reception indicator wasn't already at 5 bars. A friend of mine can reproduce the problem, even using my phone, but I can take it from his hand and it works just fine for me. I do feel bad for you anti-antenna guys -- if I were in your shoes I'd be pretty pissed off too.

It's probably some balance of electrolytes in the body.

Apple is going to create a new beverage for us so we can all become good antennas :]

 

[iphone-user68]

Interesting

I figured this had to be strictly a hardware issue as well, but now I'm not so sure. I held my iPhone 4 in the death grip until the signal went down to no bars, but it still said ATT 3G, not searching. I continued to hold it this way to see if it would lose the signal completely, but it stayed this way. Then, using the speaker, I placed a call while continuing to hold the phone in the same way. The call went through immediately. I asked the person how they heard me, and they said fine. I could hear them normally as well. I then released the grip on the phone and watched a the signal came up to 5 bars. I then asked the person if they heard me any differently, and they said no, the quality didn't change.
I have yet to have a dropped call on my iPhone 4, and Ive used it in a couple of different cities.

 

[spiritlevel]

I think some people are naturally good antennas, and some people are anti-antennas . So far, every time I've tried the 'bridge the antennas' trick on my iPhone, I've actually gained a bar when the reception indicator wasn't already at 5 bars. A friend of mine can reproduce the problem, even using my phone, but I can take it from his hand and it works just fine for me. I do feel bad for you anti-antenna guys -- if I were in your shoes I'd be pretty pissed off too.

So the same phone, in the same location, can exhibit the problem, or not, depending on who is holding it.

That's very interesting. thanks.

At risk of getting the same kind of abuse as the OP, I'd love to see a video of that if possible...

 

[stlredbird]

Obviously you missed the comment by the person who made the video saying they spoke too soon...

Obviously I didn't if you would have looked back and read my post on the page with the link that you missed in the first place. And as I said in that post it means that it is most likely a software issue and no a hardware issue, which is good news. It also proves that plenty of people may not have experienced the issue and are not just being blind Apple fan boys who refuse to see the truth.

 

[admanimal]

Obviously I didn't if you would have looked back and read my post on the page with the link that you missed in the first place. And as I said in that post it means that it is most likely a software issue and no a hardware issue, which is good news. It also proves that plenty of people may not have experienced the issue and are not just being blind Apple fan boys who refuse to see the truth.

There has been nothing that demonstrates that the issue is more likely to be software. Frankly there are too many variables that can't be controlled to determine that, especially since all iPhone 4's must run the same software (i.e. we can't try it with iOS 3).

 

[stlredbird]

There has been nothing that demonstrates that the issue is more likely to be software. Frankly there are too many variables that can't be controlled to determine that, especially since all iPhone 4's must run the same software (i.e. we can't try it with iOS 3).

If it was definitely a hardware issue where was the signal loss for the second iP4 in that video? He did end up having the issue with the second phone after he later cycled the power on and off. The hardware didn't change from cycling the power, but the software could have.

 

[admanimal]

If it was definitely a hardware issue where was the signal loss for the second iP4 in that video? He did end up having the issue with the second phone after he later cycled the power on and off. The hardware didn't change from cycling the power, but the software could have.

True, I forgot that he said he power cycled. But there are still a number of other things outside of the phone (signal quality, moisture on the phone/hands) that could have changed and also affected it. That's why I believe it's too hard to tell if it's software, unless someone finds a setting they can change that has an effect on the problem.

 

[hipvamore]

i've been to plenty of places and my phone is pefect.

 

[stlredbird]

True, I forgot that he said he power cycled. But there are still a number of other things outside of the phone (signal quality, moisture on the phone/hands) that could have changed and also affected it. That's why I believe it's too hard to tell if it's software, unless someone finds a setting they can change that has an effect on the problem.

True as well. I certainly hope it's a software issue though

 

[spiritlevel]

Obviously I didn't if you would have looked back and read my post on the page with the link that you missed in the first place. And as I said in that post it means that it is most likely a software issue and no a hardware issue, which is good news. It also proves that plenty of people may not have experienced the issue and are not just being blind Apple fan boys who refuse to see the truth.

You really think I missed the video but was aware of the comment under it? Think about that again...

I agree with you that there are plenty of people that are not experiencing the issue. That is not in dispute and not having the issue does not make you a fan boy. What is in dispute is whether all IP4s will behave the same way in a given LOCATION. The OPs hypothesis is that they will all either exhibit the issue, or they all will be fine, in that particular place. This thread is not about whether the issue is caused by hardware or software, it is about whether all IP4s exhibit the issue, or whether there are "good" and "bad" batches.

This video originally appeared to show 2 IP4s behaving differently in the same location, which is what we have all been waiting for. However, the IP4 that was supposedly "good" turned out not to be - which is why the person who posted the video said they spoke too soon. For some reason they also removed the video from YT.

I (and I'm sure many others) would still very much like to see a video of 2 IP4s that consistently exhibit different behaviour in the same location. I'm not holding my breath though as I think the OPs hypothesis is probably correct.

 

[Hoppesangen]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkZpGkbd2Qs

This one doesn't work. It does something differently though.

 

[spiritlevel]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkZpGkbd2Qs

This one doesn't work. It does something differently though.

In that one he's totally covering up the 3g antenna on the bottom so signal loss is not that surprising. You would never totally cover the antenna like that when holding the phone in everyday use. Touching the bottom left corner when holding the phone in your left hand though is very natural.