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Would no Touch ID/face detection instead on iPhone 8 work for you?
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I value TouchID.
It's a proven technology that is several generations old and works even when it's completely dark.
To abandon it completely for something like visual id would be a mistake. Let's hope Apple doesn't.
It's a proven technology that is several generations old and works even when it's completely dark.
To abandon it completely for something like visual id would be a mistake. Let's hope Apple doesn't.
perhaps part of the "speed" of the new system is that your iPhone 8 will *always* or often be scanning for your face so by the time you go to even put it up against a pay terminal it is already well aware who is holding it and can just approve the transaction.
all the naysayers here... i get it, to me it seems counterintuitive that it could be more secure and faster but lets see what Apple has to show. i can't imagine they would introduce something slower, more inconvenient, and less secure than TouchID so lets at first hear them out, perhaps we all will end up amazed.
all the naysayers here... i get it, to me it seems counterintuitive that it could be more secure and faster but lets see what Apple has to show. i can't imagine they would introduce something slower, more inconvenient, and less secure than TouchID so lets at first hear them out, perhaps we all will end up amazed.
Nope. Just don't care for the possibility, no matter how remote.
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I will believe Apple drops Touch ID on the new iPhone when they announce it. Until then a rumor is still a rumor.
Keep the bottom Chin, but slightly smaller with a smaller touch ID button, and I'm OK with that.
Am I the only one who thinks dropping Touch-ID would be a ridiculously bad move?
For starters they just brought it to MacBooks so leaving it out of other products would simply be an inconvenience to everyone.
As many habe already mentioned, facial recognition even combined with an iris scanner (and I wouldn’t trust a laser produced by the cheapest manufacturer to scan my eyes one bit) isn’t even half as secure as a finger print.
Plus what about:
- if you change your hairstyle,
- if you’re wearing sunglasses or a hat (or in winter something to keep your ears warm),
- if you shave your beard (or grow one),
- if (with the iris scanner) you’re wearing contact lenses?
Anything that is neither as fast or as secure or as convenient as a finger print scanner isn’t an improvement and shouldn’t be incorporated into the flagship of the company.
So, yeah, if the rest was good enough to persuade me of getting an 8 instead of a 7s, I’d probably go without Touch-ID. But there would have to be a hell of a lot of greatness to make me do so.
For starters they just brought it to MacBooks so leaving it out of other products would simply be an inconvenience to everyone.
As many habe already mentioned, facial recognition even combined with an iris scanner (and I wouldn’t trust a laser produced by the cheapest manufacturer to scan my eyes one bit) isn’t even half as secure as a finger print.
Plus what about:
- if you change your hairstyle,
- if you’re wearing sunglasses or a hat (or in winter something to keep your ears warm),
- if you shave your beard (or grow one),
- if (with the iris scanner) you’re wearing contact lenses?
Anything that is neither as fast or as secure or as convenient as a finger print scanner isn’t an improvement and shouldn’t be incorporated into the flagship of the company.
So, yeah, if the rest was good enough to persuade me of getting an 8 instead of a 7s, I’d probably go without Touch-ID. But there would have to be a hell of a lot of greatness to make me do so.
No it doesn't interest me in the slightest, far too many variables with it I think, then again I wouldn't pay 1000 for an iPhone anyway.
Currently I plan to get the 7 Plus when it's price drops in September.
Currently I plan to get the 7 Plus when it's price drops in September.
I could easily do too many "attempts" at unlocking with my fingerprint so that it would revert to requiring a passcode.
It would work for most people as they would just rationalize that Touch ID was not needed. It happens each time when Apple makes a big change. When MagSafe was out, people would always comment on why this is a big reason to get a Mac over a Windows. Now that it is gone, it is not longer the reason and MagSafe is suddenly not useful for many people.
When OLED was not rumored and not on the iPhone, the comments would mostly be about how OLED is just not realistic and burn in is too big of a problem. Now that it will be on the next iPhone, it is suddenly a great screen. Same for Touch ID. Many comment on how great of a feature it is for the iPhone and how it has changed security and how it being in the front is a big deal. When it is gone, people will say it wasn't that great and a facial scanner is amazing. People will rationalize their purchases in due time. It always happens and it always will, especially with Apple products.
When OLED was not rumored and not on the iPhone, the comments would mostly be about how OLED is just not realistic and burn in is too big of a problem. Now that it will be on the next iPhone, it is suddenly a great screen. Same for Touch ID. Many comment on how great of a feature it is for the iPhone and how it has changed security and how it being in the front is a big deal. When it is gone, people will say it wasn't that great and a facial scanner is amazing. People will rationalize their purchases in due time. It always happens and it always will, especially with Apple products.
I don't think I've tuned into more rumour spreaders on YT than during the iPhone 8 lead-up.
Even the most reputable uploaders flip-flop on a weekly basis (talking Everythingapplepro here).
I appreciate their efforts in helping hype up the gadgets I love & their informative research, but they're too convinced on features sometimes.
Probably my own fault for giving them too much credit...
Even if it has to turn on the screen flash to see your face in the dark? My wife wouldn't be happy with that. And neither would I as my eyes wouldn't be prepared for extra light in many dark situations.
And if it doesn't work when dark then I'm left having to enter a passcode which I find to be an annoyance.
Now, if Apple wants to add it to supplement Touch ID I'm all for it.
I would prefer TouchID over facial recognition.
In the spirit of conjuring up hypothetical situtations ... imagine someone grabs your locked iphone. Then they stick it in front of your face to unlock it. Now they have your phone entirely unlocked and they can now see your inappropriate Safari history.
At least with TouchID, they'd have to grab your finger and put it on the sensor.
And it'll be easier for clever toddlers to unlock your phone when you take a nap (provided FaceID can unlock with closed eyes). Time to buy stock in that Smurfberry company.
In the spirit of conjuring up hypothetical situtations ... imagine someone grabs your locked iphone. Then they stick it in front of your face to unlock it. Now they have your phone entirely unlocked and they can now see your inappropriate Safari history.
At least with TouchID, they'd have to grab your finger and put it on the sensor.
And it'll be easier for clever toddlers to unlock your phone when you take a nap (provided FaceID can unlock with closed eyes). Time to buy stock in that Smurfberry company.
Unless of course with facial recognition you are required to blink three times. That would cut down on toddlers stealing your phone, but not a thief.
I think you would have to blink just twice and then stick your tongue out and to the left
Better security...
I'd prefer to hold out and see how a potential facial recognition would work before I decided on if I'm going to get the new iPhone or not. Obviously my preference is Touch ID, but I definitely would not rule out the iPhone if it did away with Touch ID in favor of facial recognition.
I keep my phone in my pocket while driving, and use Siri to read and reply to messages and make phone calls over the Bluetooth stereo. About 50% of the time, Siri tells me I have to unlock my phone before she will read. There is no rhyme or reason when this happens. But, it's easy to reach into my pocket and touch the home button for touchID. A facial requirement would not be possible. Whatever they have planned, I hope it still works without having to pull out my phone while driving.
Yes but it's not just Apple Pay I'd be concerned about, it's all the other personal things I do on my phone as well such as banking etc.
If you do not trust it I am sure they will still offer the 6 digit code to open your phone.
None of us have any choice except to wait and no only see which direction Apple goes but also how it is implemented. 3d facial recognition sounds good to me, time will tell.
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These days they would chop off your finger and take it with them. Does not matter what anyone prefers, Apple will make the choice for us. Only choice you will have is to buy or not.
Wait and see it is, don't fancy going back to a pin code after the getting used to the convenience of TouchID.
Assuming it happens - I'm going to wait for people's experience before I get an 8. Normally, I'm a first day person but that significant change (and maybe others) I will wait to see what people think and how it really works. Depending what happens - I may actually wait for an update from Apple which will probably come soon after anyway.
Wait will be better than pain.
Wait will be better than pain.
Interestingly enough, depending on when you pre-order. it's usually others that will have the iPhone 8 before I will. Given that time, that's typically when user reviews start surfacing and what the initial thoughts are with the latest security features. I'm not one that needs to have the iPhone in my hands on day one.
