Amazing that with the D22 firmware leak, that it appears there will be FaceID and no Touch ID/home button on OLED ‘iPhone 8’ that’s really ‘iPhone X’ since 8 = 7s,
I still don’t like the idea of this.
Feels like they couldn’t integrate touch into the display, and might come in later iterations
I just don’t know...
And I’m not really wanting my face scanned to unlock my phone, no matter how accurate and quick it is
I guess we’ll have to see what goes down Tuesday to be sure, and get some hands on play with one whenever they release, but I’m dubious
What's the problem with your face scanning??
I like interaction with my phone.
For example how is one gonna admire a lock screen wallpaper or look at notifications on there without going immediately to home screen?
And I really like the haptic feedback 7/7+ home button
What's the problem with your face scanning??
There will be a deliberate action required to remove the lock screen as it is required now with Touch ID as well.
I wouldn't like to have to take 100+ selfies a day to get into my phone and position my head to the right spot etc..
Resting my finger at the home button for less than a second was so much easier.
I like interaction with my phone.
For example how is one gonna admire a lock screen wallpaper or look at notifications on there without going immediately to home screen?
And I really like the haptic feedback 7/7+ home button
Face detection on my S8 is a real pain, but at least I can use fingerprint scanner. They're getting rid of the latter option here and it's a shame.
That is a stupid way of implementing face recognition. It works using vectors in 3D space. Not taking selfies.
Probably but will it be finnicky?
Like how press to home is kinda stupid and something I've always disabled?
Or how 2nd gen Touch ID is so quick sometimes u gotta click it off the edge and hope it doesn't render a finger print and skip the lock screen
And home button is Iconic iPhone. The iconic thing people have taken for granted is now replaced with a chin ?
It's a parting of ways that feels too soon even a decade later since haptic feedback came out last year for solidnhome button and 2nd gen just two years ago.
And I like touching Touch ID to simulate a press of home button and swiping it horizontally to multitask toggling apps
But these are jailbreak customizations
And tap and short hold Touch ID to lock phone too
It's the little things
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Also presumably 8 will still be Touch ID and LED
So people that don't know if they wanna do face ID and give up Touch ID for an OLED screen and trimmed bezels, are now in a predicament.
It makes the iPhone 8 still very relevant even cheaper pricing aside compared to this X OLED
I don't like things being taken away either. HeadPhone jack adapter sucked until I got airpods.
But first they take that away now it's Touch ID?
What will they take away next year to "trim the clutter?"
I get that bezels are in need of a reduction because but it's like going from one extreme to another
I know what you're saying but it would feel the same thing as taking a selfie, you're sticking the phone up to your face from a certain distance or angle for the phone to read your face and unlock it.
I dont want to judge early and since from the sounds of it there will be models still with touch ID that's a good thing to have options.
All of the points you mentioned there aren't really bad / finicky implementation from Apple, they are just your preferences.
This is not called "taking away", this is called compromising due to space being at a premium. With your logic you might as well just fit in a radio within a full fledged laptop and start from there. Having possibly everything available at your disposal to be used whenever you feel like.
What about for people that cover up their front cameras like they do their laptops and seldom take selfies?
Going from that to infrared/deep spatial awareness seems like a big leap of faith too
The secure enclave talk was assuring in light of 2013 Snowden leaks and stuff, but what's the reassurance for a high quality sensor that can see better than even imaginable on paper?
Just saying..
It's kinda scary if a phone laying flat on a table away from the couch can "sense" you're there even if it's also really impressive unprecedented tech
I'm personally not that thrilled conceptually with iOS 11 doing all this "machine learning" too
Translating free hand writing to text in notes is impressive, but that's about as much "machine learning" as I think I might be enthused by
I really don't think such a "mission critical" feature will be implemented in a cumbersome way. I absolutely have faith in apple's engineering and design team to come up with a seamless solution to make it work without being "in your face" all the time. Let's just see what they have to show.
If its as bad as you think it is then I will be the first to admit it and probably will not even think of buying the device at all.
Of course its a preference
But press to home is redundant, and inconsistent for me.
My thread title even says “for you” so, clearly, this is a thread asking about individual person’s preferences
Touch ID has been one of the cooler things Apple implemented, and perfected with 2nd gen, and it was so cool that Android OEM’s piggybacked off of it.
Now Apple is piggybacking off of an Android implementation, even if they go about it differently
Just like how Apple is piggybacking off of OLED, even though I certainly will be the first to admit I welcome this change (provided they can overcome the fact that OLED screens usually have poor outdoor visibility, something that is a tremendous strength of my 7+)
Just saying..
It's kinda scary if a phone laying flat on a table away from the couch can "sense" you're there even if it's also really impressive unprecedented tech
Do you actually understand the technology enough for being fearful? People who cover their laptop cameras are at a different level and there is a huge difference on how desktop OS and the iOS works in that sense.
I am not trying to put you down or anything but I think you are being worried about things that are almost impossible to achieve on iOS.
That's part of it that I dont get either.
If the front camera has no direct view line of your face how would it "sense" that you're there while its pointing straight up to the ceiling?
It’s not a matter of desktops/laptops get peeped on and iOS devices don’t, imo, dragnet surveillance is dragnet surveillance. It doesn’t distinguish between one tool being hands on vs another not, or moral distinctions between spying on computer users vs leaving mobile users at peace (lots of people these days only have an iPhone, and it has fully replaced having any need for a tablet or a computer). Or even that iPhone users cant be spied on but Android users can — thats Folk tale. Americans constitute iOS users more than Android by share, so
Of course I think the potential is there to keep a peeping passive, non-discerning eye on anyone and everyone.
Not Apple, per say, but three letter organizations that don’t care about Apple’s PR/philosophy of trying to preserve customer privacy and not sell off ad info like another organization that can ‘do no evil’
I think its naive to think that iPhone X hardware will overcome forces of nature, especially as the tools by which one could theoretically spy, if they so desired, become that much more useful, clear, and competent at their assigned task i.e ridiculously high quality sensors, spatially aware of surroundings. Feels like Sonar in Batman or something from the rumors