Would you feel comfortable buying a new MBP today?

[turbineseaplane]

The real test for all the "x months in and no issues!!" people is what happens once out of warranty, especially on 2018 models which (thus far) aren't covered by the keyboard repair warranty extension Apple did for 2016/2017.

Hopefully they'll extend that if need be/when the time comes.

 

[dspdoc]

The real test for all the "x months in and no issues!!" people is what happens once out of warranty, especially on 2018 models which (thus far) aren't covered by the keyboard repair warranty extension Apple did for 2016/2017.

Hopefully they'll extend that if need be/when the time comes.

Well I bought AppleCare, so for me this would be 3 years down the road and I NEVER keep a machine that long. So you are saying Apple has somehow magically set these machines up to fail right when your warranty runs out? That would be quite as feat seeing as the warranty expiration dates would be different for everyone.

 

[AZhappyjack]

The real test for all the "x months in and no issues!!" people is what happens once out of warranty, especially on 2018 models which (thus far) aren't covered by the keyboard repair warranty extension Apple did for 2016/2017.

Hopefully they'll extend that if need be/when the time comes.

Nice straw man... keep spinning the facts... as I said earlier, sure, there are some issues with some of the 2018 MBPs... but not everyone that buys one has all (or even any) of the issues... sometimes, you just have to accept the fact that you're wrong.

 

[Tim018]

I had a brand new Lenovo X1 Extreme for exactly one day. The trackpad was abysmal compared to the MBP and the screen does this incremental auto dimming and brightness thing in Win10 while running on battery that currently there’s no way to disable. Microsoft decided to remove the setting for adaptive brightness out of pure stupidity I guess. Anyway, it drove me insane. Enjoy your Lenovo.

You can disable this asinine dimming behavior in the intel graphics control panel

Intel graphics control panel -> power -> display power saving technology : set to off

 

[dspdoc]

You can disable this asinine dimming behavior in the intel graphics control panel

Intel graphics control panel -> power -> display power saving technology : set to off

Please do not spread misinformation

I tried that. The behavior persists even when disabled that setting in the Intel panel. I would guess it still occurs because of the missing adaptive setting that Win10 no longer has. Don’t assume I’m spreading misinformation.

 

[turbineseaplane]

So you are saying Apple has somehow magically set these machines up to fail right when your warranty runs out? T

No- I'm not saying that at all!

The only point was - if you run out of warranty and *then* have to fix these machines, it's really expensive since they replace the entire top of the unit simply for key-switch issues..

That's well documented and why so many were relieved that the 2016/2017 machines got an extension program from Apple.
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Nice straw man... keep spinning the facts..

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What facts am I "spinning"?
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sometimes, you just have to accept the fact that you're wrong.

What am I wrong about?

 

[jerryk]

The real test for all the "x months in and no issues!!" people is what happens once out of warranty, especially on 2018 models which (thus far) aren't covered by the keyboard repair warranty extension Apple did for 2016/2017.

Hopefully they'll extend that if need be/when the time comes.

I guess I will never have a "real test". I have AC Plus and replace my systems before it runs out. Did the same thing with the 2015 15" MBP that the was replaced by my current 2018 15", which will replaced by 2020 or so.

 

[BuCkDoG]

I guess I will never have a "real test". I have AC Plus and replace my systems before it runs out. Did the same thing with the 2015 15" MBP that the was replaced by my current 2018 15", which will replaced by 2020 or so.

How are you liking your 2018 model so far? I have been really enjoying mine to be quite honest.

 

[AZhappyjack]

What facts am I "spinning"?

It's not good enough that I am satisfied that I have no issues with my MBP... you have to try to plant the seed of fear that screams "it's coming".

What am I wrong about?

The fact that Apple has spent time and design energy to solve the butterfly keyboard issues of the 2016/2017 models... you're too busy hating to enjoy the ride.

 

[turbineseaplane]

The fact that Apple has spent time and design energy to solve the butterfly keyboard issues of the 2016/2017 models...

They did?
Oh

Great! Problems are fixed...
Cheers

 

[AZhappyjack]

They did?
Oh

Great! Problems are fixed...
Cheers

They are for me... but apparently my vote doesn't count.

 

[turbineseaplane]

They are for me... but apparently my vote doesn't count.

Every vote counts my friend!
Glad to hear things are going well for you!

 

[jerryk]

How are you liking your 2018 model so far? I have been really enjoying mine to be quite honest.

I like it. It is quite a bit faster than my 2015 model and the screen is much better. And after using it for a while I prefer USB C. I have a $30 dongle that works with the various projection system and external monitors I use and provides USB-A and SD/uSD card slots should I need them.

And I especially like the power supply with detachable USB-C to USB-C cable. I never thought the whole "safe" part of magsafe was necessary, especially since it did not fix the main failure of Apple power supplies, the frayed cable at the charger body.

I kept the 2015 for a month when I first got the 2018. Then I realized I had adapted to the 2018 keyboard and really preferred the speed and better screen, so sold the 2015.

 

[dspdoc]

I like it. It is quite a bit faster than my 2015 model and the screen is much better. And after using it for a while I prefer USB C. I have a $30 dongle that works with the various projection system and external monitors I use and provides USB-A and SD/uSD card slots should I need them.

And I especially like the power supply with detachable USB-C to USB-C cable. I never thought the whole "safe" part of magsafe was necessary, especially since it did not fix the main failure of Apple power supplies, the frayed cable at the charger body.

I kept the 2015 for a month when I first got the 2018. Then I realized I had adapted to the 2018 keyboard and really preferred the speed and better screen, so sold the 2015.

Awesome to hear that you are happy!

 

[BuCkDoG]

I like it. It is quite a bit faster than my 2015 model and the screen is much better. And after using it for a while I prefer USB C. I have a $30 dongle that works with the various projection system and external monitors I use and provides USB-A and SD/uSD card slots should I need them.

And I especially like the power supply with detachable USB-C to USB-C cable. I never thought the whole "safe" part of magsafe was necessary, especially since it did not fix the main failure of Apple power supplies, the frayed cable at the charger body.

I kept the 2015 for a month when I first got the 2018. Then I realized I had adapted to the 2018 keyboard and really preferred the speed and better screen, so sold the 2015.

Awesome and great to hear as well! I support your claims and now that I have had the 2018 MBP for a week or so, I can easily say that it is definitely better than the previous models in every way, shape, and form. I just seriously hope the keyboard stays in tact and does not break. I have been down this road previously with the 2016 models and 2017 models and had keyboard issues so I really hope this is no longer the case with this generation.

 

[Pangalactic]

Awesome and great to hear as well! I support your claims and now that I have had the 2018 MBP for a week or so, I can easily say that it is definitely better than the previous models in every way, shape, and form. I just seriously hope the keyboard stays in tact and does not break. I have been down this road previously with the 2016 models and 2017 models and had keyboard issues so I really hope this is no longer the case with this generation.

2018 MBP is not a bad machine, it's an unreliable one (and obviously extremely expensive). If all the software and hardware issues plaguing it didn't exist then it would be a pretty great laptop. I mean it still has great speakers, screen, SSD speeds, graphics, RAM (talking about the 15''), trackpad and decent battery life, and looks gorgeous.

But when I'm working and flying on business trips, reliability comes first. And this where Apple really needs to step up their game for the new MBPs.

 

[BuCkDoG]

2018 MBP is not a bad machine, it's an unreliable one (and obviously extremely expensive). If all the software and hardware issues plaguing it didn't exist then it would be a pretty great laptop. I mean it still has great speakers, screen, SSD speeds, graphics, RAM (talking about the 15''), trackpad and decent battery life, and looks gorgeous.

But when I'm working and flying on business trips, reliability comes first. And this where Apple really needs to step up their game for the new MBPs.

Completely agree. It’s meant for traveling and work not sitting in a air sealed capsule with no dust or debris.

 

[dspdoc]

2018 MBP is not a bad machine, it's an unreliable one (and obviously extremely expensive). If all the software and hardware issues plaguing it didn't exist then it would be a pretty great laptop. I mean it still has great speakers, screen, SSD speeds, graphics, RAM (talking about the 15''), trackpad and decent battery life, and looks gorgeous.

But when I'm working and flying on business trips, reliability comes first. And this where Apple really needs to step up their game for the new MBPs.

No reliability issues here. So far things are perfect.

 

[groove-agent]

I’m riding out my 2015 until a redesign occurs. Then I’m going to wait at least 6 months to make sure that model is “Gateless”.

 

[turbineseaplane]

I’m riding out my 2015 until a redesign occurs. Then I’m going to wait at least 6 months to make sure that model is “Gateless”.

Smart move.

Even if they redesign the keyboards, it’s going to take a little time for us to get a sense of what they did and if it worked etc.

 

[groove-agent]

You might be right. The redesigns are at a snail’s pace right now. Maybe waiting for an A series chip changeover? I thought the iMac would get a redesign but no, just a speed bump after being neglected for a couple years.

I say yes, but that's sort of a personal choice. I feel like the MBP design took a big hit in 2016. Very much a step down from the 2015 model. However I've used several Windows laptops over the past several years, and the experience is always inferior (IMO). Part of it is my preference for MacOS over Win, but part of it is just basic function. My work laptop is a Lenovo X1 Carbon. Great laptop - the keyboard is heaven compared to Apple's butterfly keyboard. However the trackpad is so bad that I've started using the little eraser stick pointing device out of sheer frustration. Plus I hate 16:9 aspect ratio screens - 16:10 is so much better. (3:2 would be even better!). So while the current design has its flaws, the total package is still superior in my view. So if I was in the market for a new MBP, I would bite the bullet and purchase a 2018 model.

Also - there's a lot of optimism in this thread that there will be a re-designed MBP in 2019. I just don't see it. There hasn't been very many rumors about it, and the current model is up to date with its specs, so I would think Apple will rest on its current design until at least 2020.

 

[dspdoc]

You might be right. The redesigns are at a snail’s pace right now. Maybe waiting for an A series chip changeover? I thought the iMac would get a redesign but no, just a speed bump after being neglected for a couple years.

I am happy they didn't redesign the '19 iMac, but then again I prefer mature designs. I find it quite amusing that the same people who are complaining about issues with the current lineup are the same ones clamoring for an all new design. That doesn't seem wise IMHO coming from 25 years of being an Apple customer. Gen. 1 designs are statistically the ones that face the most issues. I much prefer designs that Apple have enough time invested in to get things right. Same thing goes for macOS. I miss the days when the OS release cycle was nowhere near yearly.

 

[AHDuke99]

I am still using my early 2011 MBP, which has been a workhorse over the years, but I am getting close to needing to upgrade, as the machine is slowing down and the screen is beginning to flicker. Hopefully Apple will release a MBP this year. I'd love Vega chips to be standard and not a $300 upgrade, but I won't get my hopes up.

 

[jerryk]

Awesome and great to hear as well! I support your claims and now that I have had the 2018 MBP for a week or so, I can easily say that it is definitely better than the previous models in every way, shape, and form. I just seriously hope the keyboard stays in tact and does not break. I have been down this road previously with the 2016 models and 2017 models and had keyboard issues so I really hope this is no longer the case with this generation.

Hopefully your keyboard experience will mirror mine. Used every day for nearly 7 months. No issues.

 

[MBAir2010]

The macbook air 2010 i have is still working great, el Capitan except the power button, cap lite, w to o keys don't type and the screws are stripped, luckily blk electrical tapes looks good on both sides, sometimes the power block fails, but still computes, my concern is replacing this with another macbook. Im worried about these failures therefore im saying to an older used mbpro or a brand new Macbook air 2017.
Should i get the latest mba and bite the bullet hoping the laptop will function properly?