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Would you buy a 2018 MBP today?

  • No

    Votes: 202 62.3%
  • Yes

    Votes: 122 37.7%

  • Total voters
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Agree, I wish they’d make iOS more like MacOS. I’m growing tired of iOS if I’m being honest.
Yes, if they are bent on combining these two or at least molding them closely, please let it be that iOS becomes more macOS like and not the other way around!
 
Trust me, I have not been thrilled with the price hikes either! Nor have I been happy with some of the design choices coming out of Cupertino. That said, I still think the MBP is the best portable IMHO. I have tried many different PC laptops and always come back to Mac. I know this might sound trivial, but the MBP trackpad alone is enough reason for me to stay. I don't know why, but for some reason PC laptops just cannot get their trackpads right. Again, I know that might sound petty, but it is a huge deal to me. This combined with macOS is why I remain. I know that Windows has come a long way and is a very stable and viable option, but for some reason I still just cannot stand it. I do not like it or enjoy using it at all. macOS to me is a fluid and seamless OS that is a pleasure to use. When you look at the big picture of the entire ecosystem and how well Apple devices communicate nearly flawlessly it becomes (is still) a pretty enticing package.

I can work in either environment and others, so to switch is not overly dramatic barring the cost. macOS for my needs has degraded in stability which is significant concern, nor is it hardware related. There's still a lot to like with the Mac, equally the balance is tipping especially if you have to factor in the professional aspect.

I'm not in love with W10 by any means and it remains to have a long way to go, equally credit where credit is due. If set up correctly the OS is extremely stable and performant. As ever much comes down to the individuals or companies workflow. One of the Mac's growing problems is the lack of value and the dependency dongles & adaptors which can and do add a layer of complexity.

Apple certainly excels with trackpads and although PC's are getting a lot better, it's beyond me why they seem incapable of delivering. Some are very good, the majority just serviceable, others downright useless and better shutoff. Closest I've experienced is MS Surface Book.

I think the ecosystem is overblown these days as you can do much the same on the other side if you wish, admittedly it takes some research to be where you want, as there's a lot more choice. Mostly I think it stems from Apple's change in focus, shifting from the desktop to mobile, now services, they are following the money as they should, equally I cant help but think our corner is rather being left behind and it's starting to show...

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I can work in either environment and others, so to switch is not overly dramatic barring the cost. macOS for my needs has degraded in stability which is significant concern, nor is it hardware related. There's still a lot to like with the Mac, equally the balance is tipping especially if you have to factor in the professional aspect.

I'm not in love with W10 by any means and it remains to have a long way to go, equally credit where credit is due. If set up correctly the OS is extremely stable and performant. As ever much comes down to the individuals or companies workflow. One of the Mac's growing problems is the lack of value and the dependency dongles & adaptors which can and do add a layer of complexity.

Apple certainly excels with trackpads and although PC's are getting a lot better, it's beyond me why they seem incapable of delivering. Some are very good, the majority just serviceable, others downright useless and better shutoff. Closest I've experienced is MS Surface Book.

I think the ecosystem is overblown these days as you can do much the same on the other side if you wish, admittedly it takes some research to be where you want, as there's a lot more choice. Mostly I think it stems from Apple's change in focus, shifting from the desktop to mobile, now services, they are following the money as they should, equally I cant help but think our corner is rather being left behind and it's starting to show...

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The problem I see with Apple is that their focus seems to comes in waves. Like the tides of the ocean, so does their focus shift. One minute it is hardware, the next software and then services. This bothers me. They have all the money in the world to focus equally at all times on all platforms they offer. If they did this I think the vibe that is flowing around about Apple right now might be a bit more positive.
 
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In December 2018 I purchased a 2018 15" MBP (i9, 32 GB RAM, 1 TB SSD, Vega 20) and have been very happy with it. Absolutely no problems with it whatsoever.
That’s awesome to hear! I hope my machine will have the same fate.
 
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One of the Mac's growing problems is the lack of value and the dependency dongles & adaptors which can and do add a layer of complexity.

I think people overplay the complexity and "annoyance" of dongles here. In a professional setting this is solved by a docking station which my company provides at every desk (and we use Windows PCs made by Dell). In a personal setting you grab the one dongle you need and move on.

If it were a major issue people would be returning the machines or not buying them in the first place. It isn't like you need a new dongle every week or something...

Mostly I think it stems from Apple's change in focus, shifting from the desktop to mobile, now services, they are following the money as they should, equally I cant help but think our corner is rather being left behind and it's starting to show...

The problem is this is where all of computing has been going. This isn't just Apple... Microsoft is heavily pushing Azure and subscription based services at every turn. When it comes to Windows MS has reduced their Windows support lifecycle to 1 year after any update is released. So you're forced to update to the latest even if you don't like what it has or if it has issues with your device.

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/13853/windows-lifecycle-fact-sheet

Desktop computing across the entire industry has been upset by the rapid growth in smartphone functionality and power. It is no longer the only method of computing so we'll see more of what we see now, but it won't be "solved" by jumping from Apple to Microsoft or whatnot...

The net positive to us users in all of this is computers are now lasting longer than they ever have. We can now realistically use a 5+ year old computer which would have been unheard of a decade ago as the hardware advancements are outpacing the software's ability to utilize it.
 
Dongles are not an issue for me. Back in 2016 I bought a 12" MacBook and that was a gentle transition between USB-A and USB-C. Many current external drives come now with two cables, one which works with USB-A and the other which works with USB-C, and also one can buy cables that have the connectors that are needed, too. I just grab the cable I need (along with my new 2018 MBP I still have my 2015 15" MBP) and plug it into the external drive when transferring data between computers. No big deal.....
 
Dongles are not an issue for me. Back in 2016 I bought a 12" MacBook and that was a gentle transition between USB-A and USB-C. Many current external drives come now with two cables, one which works with USB-A and the other which works with USB-C, and also one can buy cables that have the connectors that are needed, too. I just grab the cable I need (along with my new 2018 MBP I still have my 2015 15" MBP) and plug it into the external drive when transferring data between computers. No big deal.....

I agree, but I don't run that many peripherals anyway. I've got a USB 3.0 to USB-C adapter, and I've got a mini SD card reader. And I usually run Sandisk Extreme external SSD's. I don't use much else, but if I were to get an external monitor (I may eventually), I'd probably just buy a docking station like I have at work and go from there. My work station runs on USB C, so I just plug in the HP, press a button on the station, and I've got both monitors up and running. Could easily do something like this with the MBP.
 
I wouldn't feel comfortable buying any of the new MacBook's at this time. I don't want issues with my keyboard in 1-3 years time after it's out of basic warranty. And the screen issues are also concerning but mainly the keyboard for me.

I have a 2015 15" which I bought at launch and I recently changed its battery after 4 years of heavy usage. I hope it lasts another 4 years and by that time Apple will have fixed the design flaws that permeate their current lineup.

If when this laptop fails Apple has not remedied the situation I'll switch to Windows for my laptops, I already use Windows on my desktop (and always have done) so it won't be such a big change for me, though I will miss macOS and many of the great apps available on it.
 
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I wouldn't feel comfortable buying any of the new MacBook's at this time. I don't want issues with my keyboard in 1-3 years time after it's out of basic warranty. And the screen issues are also concerning but mainly the keyboard for me.

I have a 2015 15" which I bought at launch and I recently changed its battery after 4 years of heavy usage. I hope it lasts another 4 years and by that time Apple will have fixed the design flaws that permeate their current lineup.

If when this laptop fails Apple has not remedied the situation I'll switch to Windows for my laptops, I already use Windows on my desktop (and always have done) so it won't be such a big change for me, though I will miss macOS and many of the great apps available on it.
my 2015 13inch ac just ran out this month so i'm literally in the same boat, this thing better last me til they make another redesign to fix all the possible issues. the thing is the new mbp, i have too many things to worry about going wrong.
 
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my 2015 13inch ac just ran out this month so i'm literally in the same boat, this thing better last me til they make another redesign to fix all the possible issues. the thing is the new mbp, i have too many things to worry about going wrong.
For all the people reporting issues I’d venture to say that there’s at least as many happy users. Things are fantastic here so far. I do plan to continue to document this until a new machine is released, at which time I’ll decide if I want a new one.
 
For all the people reporting issues I’d venture to say that there’s at least as many happy users. Things are fantastic here so far. I do plan to continue to document this until a new machine is released, at which time I’ll decide if I want a new one.
ofcourse not everyone can be unhappy else apple won't be selling any laptops. but its evidential enough to support the claim that the current design has the most complaints/lawsuits. its a very polarizing design and many review sites agrees.

on a personal note i had a 2016 13inch that had keyboard issues on day 3 before i returned it and got a 2nd hand 2015 13inch.
 
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For all the people reporting issues I’d venture to say that there’s at least as many happy users. Things are fantastic here so far. I do plan to continue to document this until a new machine is released, at which time I’ll decide if I want a new one.

this isnt like a vote where majority wins. every flaw you have, you lose customers, you lose profit, so having just as many happy users isnt good enough.

my gf is going to grad school this May, and need a laptop. She was considering the MBA but we decided to get a Lenovo X1 Carbon instead. even if the warranty is still valid, she probably cannot afford to be without a laptop while it's being repaired.
 
my gf is going to grad school this May, and need a laptop. She was considering the MBA but we decided to get a Lenovo X1 Carbon instead. even if the warranty is still valid, she probably cannot afford to be without a laptop while it's being repaired.

Neither Apple nor Lenovo offer loaners. Unless she paid extra for Lenovo at home repairs she will still have to deal with a shipping delay for repairs of a few days to a week. The only advantage Apple has here (and it isn’t a perfect one) is you can buy and return a laptop in that repair window and use time machine to almost eliminate downtime.
 
Neither Apple nor Lenovo offer loaners. Unless she paid extra for Lenovo at home repairs she will still have to deal with a shipping delay for repairs of a few days to a week. The only advantage Apple has here (and it isn’t a perfect one) is you can buy and return a laptop in that repair window and use time machine to almost eliminate downtime.

i wasnt referring to loaners. we have 2 friends whose 2018 MBP/MBA's keyboards ran into problems after a few months. plus there are quite a few thread on this on this forum. of course, im not sure about how common is the problem, but we just think Lenovo is the safer bet. if the lenovo happens to have problems as well, then it's just our luck.
 
i wasnt referring to loaners. we have 2 friends whose 2018 MBP/MBA's keyboards ran into problems after a few months. plus there are quite a few thread on this on this forum. of course, im not sure about how common is the problem, but we just think Lenovo is the safer bet. if the lenovo happens to have problems as well, then it's just our luck.
I had a brand new Lenovo X1 Extreme for exactly one day. The trackpad was abysmal compared to the MBP and the screen does this incremental auto dimming and brightness thing in Win10 while running on battery that currently there’s no way to disable. Microsoft decided to remove the setting for adaptive brightness out of pure stupidity I guess. Anyway, it drove me insane. Enjoy your Lenovo.
 
I would not buy any Mac until Apple builds computers engineered to be computers and not fashion accessories. I REALLY hate saying that. Far too many compromises and the cost of storage is inexcusably high.
 
I have to ask because of all the garbage I’m reading on MR about the ‘18 MBPs like keyboard issues, thermal issues, screen flickering, flexgate etc. etc. The list is a little alarming to say the least. So would you feel comfortable buying a new MBP today?

Not only am I comfortable with it, I did it. My 2018 MPB is about 6 months old now, and I have experienced none of the reported problems. Maybe I am just lucky... or maybe the frequency of these issues occurring "in the wild" is grossly overstated. I have no doubt that some are having some issues, but, as with most tech, the lion's share of the press reports, blog and forum posts, etc go to those reporting problems.
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You’re only one month in.
I wouldn’t celebrate quite yet.

I'm over 6 months in, and no issues at all.

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Not only am I comfortable with it, I did it. My 2018 MPB is about 6 months old now, and I have experienced none of the reported problems. Maybe I am just lucky... or maybe the frequency of these issues occurring "in the wild" is grossly overstated. I have no doubt that some are having some issues, but, as with most tech, the lion's share of the press reports, blog and forum posts, etc go to those reporting problems.
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I'm over 6 months in, and no issues at all.

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Isn't the entire iPad, in essence, a trackpad?
I totally agree with you. No one gets online to report how happy they are or how flawless their machine is. People only report the negative.
 
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