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Sadly, Apple has never had the guts to fully make (see it though to completion and accolade) and integrate software that serves the customer. Take any of their apps. iTunes - some of the worst software ever made and does not function at all (cannot manage duplicate entries in a library - forever). Mail - missing most of the basic functionality available in Outlook for two decades. Siri - oh dear, it did manage to get an upgrade after years - it will respond to your thank you now… wow.. amazing… minor interactive.
I just don’t see their commitment to a fully integrated solution. That they are integrating ChatGPT - a non-realtime AI (e.g. It’s model uses data from almost a year ago) smacks of desperation to slot in something. Guess what, there’s a ChatGPT app already and it interacts with you verbally (to a degree). Hmmm. Just not sold on the possibility… and slowing down my phone.
 
I definitely wouldn't want apple one as I find half the stuff it includes to be utterly worthless. are people really using fitness plus? I could see if it was like supernatural for the Vision Pro but its not...Apple Arcade is terrible, no one wants paid news, etc. I pay $6 a month for Apple Music student which comes with Apple TV and that all I want from apple. it's crazy that apple one requires a $40 plan just to get the 2tb storage for icloud. if that was included in the $20 plan I'd see the value
 
This is honestly insane and makes me think Apple execs don't use iCloud mail. It has been 13 years of iCloud Mail and this should have been fixed 13 years ago.
Apple will run its email on Microsoft Exchange servers in Office 365 like any other large corp, so all their execs will likley be using the Microsoft Outlook for iOS app, or the default mail app configured for the Office 365 server
 
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It’s funny how Apple has so many naysayers whenever it announces a new major offering. Apple was mocked for the iPhone, the iPad, the iMac, etc. and while they haven’t always been good products (remember their foray into social media?), Apple usually has a spin that makes its products surprisingly intuitive and personal. If the only thing you think AI is good for is replacing Google for recipe searches then of course you won’t want to pay more. But when the AI features are, I don’t know, AI Movie Editor, which lets you choose your photos and clips and then puts it together with custom, cinematic music? Or AI Community Connect that blends map data, local event data, and clues about your preferences to recommend civic and volunteer opportunities for you over the next week? Maybe I open Apple Books to I title I’ve put aside for a month. How about I get offered a brief recap on the story to help bring me up to speed?

Lots of potential use for AI to make Apple’s products more personal and useful. Apple isn’t limited to being a ChatGPT competitor.
 
They'll definitely bundle it with the Apple One and Apple One will go up about another 15 bucks a month.
But....hey....it's better than paying 20... that's how they play the game.
If you have a family the Apple One plan is decent value, gives the kids Apple Music, Apple TV, Apple Arcade and some icloud storage to shut them up! Apple TV needs more content though
 
I wouldn't mind it being rolled into part of Apple One, but I probably wouldn't otherwise pay unless there's some secret knockout feature that they unveil or debut in the future. The usual souped-up and smarter "suggestions" and the like aren't enough for me. I do like Apple One and find it a good deal, with plenty of cloud storage and access to the other premium features, all in one bill. I try to pare my monthly bills down to as few as possible, so would not be keen on a separate subscription fee.

In fact, I wish Apple offered a way to set the billing date for all your separate subscriptions into one monthly charge. Right now, the only other subscription I have is for 1Password, so no big deal, but when I used to have several subscriptions through the app store, I always wanted a way to be billed once monthly for all of them.
 
Nothing's funnier than all these Tech companies varied versions of 'edited' Ai they program to give false answers on whatever they deem innapprorpiate. It should just be called "The News".
 
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Apple reportedly plans to turn some Apple Intelligence features into paid subscription services, and some analysts believe the company could charge users up to $20 per month for the privilege.

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Last month, Bloomberg reporter Mark Gurman said that while Apple Intelligence will be free to start, Apple's long-term plan is to launch something like "Apple Intelligence+," with extra features that users pay monthly fees to access, similar to iCloud+.

Speaking to CNBC, Counterpoint Research's Neil Shah said Apple could offer the features as part of a modified Apple One subscription, and he believes an additional figure of between $10 and $20 is a realistic possibility.

"Software and services makes it more lucrative for Apple to pass it on with the Apple One subscription model," Shah told CNBC in an interview last week.

Apple One costs $19.95 a month and gives users access to various Apple services like Apple Music, Apple TV+, Apple Fitness+, additional cloud storage, and more.

"Apple is one of the few connected devices companies that has successfully monetized the value-added services it offers," Ben Wood, chief of research at CCS Insight, told CNBC.

"As a result, it has set a precedent with its users that they have to pay for more premium services. On this basis, it can't be ruled out that Apple may choose to charge for more advanced features within its Apple Intelligence offering."

Wood added that Apple Intelligence could give the company an option to launched a bundled subscription service with various services under a single price, akin to a new Apple One tier.

Apple in the June quarter saw a steep increase in services revenue at $24.2 billion, up from $21.2 billion a year ago and a new all-time revenue record. Analysts believe that making its own AI features another services revenue stream could allow Apple to compensate for the slower pace of hardware upgrades and also enable the company to pass the high cost of its investment in AI onto customers.

Apple has reportedly started building its own AI servers that use the M2 Ultra chip, and it is said to be developing its own AI server processor using TSMC's 3nm process for use as soon as 2025, which could enhance the performance of its data centers and future AI tools that rely on the cloud.

Apple is expected to spend several billion on hardware to support its artificial intelligence development in 2024, according to Apple analyst Ming-Chi Kuo. Kuo said he expects Apple to spend "at least" $620 million on servers in 2023 and $4.75 billion on servers in 2024.

Article Link: Would You Subscribe to Apple Intelligence? Analysts Say Some Features Could Cost Up to $20 Per Month
Hahaha No.
No.
 
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Let's see how well it performs tasks that are genuinely useful. I turned Siri off a decade ago and it's been great. But $20 a month? Can't see it.
No one I know uses Siri. But, I can't wait for another half-baked Apple service that makes a big keynote splash, then gets zero support while Apple focusses on the next big thing for the next keynote. Apple needs some staying power and a huge quality improvement to get me to buy into Apple services. They are just too poorly implemented.
 
Let's see how well it performs tasks that are genuinely useful. I turned Siri off a decade ago and it's been great. But $20 a month? Can't see it.
Exactly. I refuse to use Siri. It’s been turned off for the last 5 years.

It was enough for me when I would be having a conversation with my wife. And my iPhone in the next rooms starts speaking.

Ya na. If I could completely delete Siri I would.
 
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It’s funny how Apple has so many naysayers whenever it announces a new major offering. Apple was mocked for the iPhone, the iPad, the iMac, etc. and while they haven’t always been good products (remember their foray into social media?), Apple usually has a spin that makes its products surprisingly intuitive and personal. If the only thing you think AI is good for is replacing Google for recipe searches then of course you won’t want to pay more. But when the AI features are, I don’t know, AI Movie Editor, which lets you choose your photos and clips and then puts it together with custom, cinematic music? Or AI Community Connect that blends map data, local event data, and clues about your preferences to recommend civic and volunteer opportunities for you over the next week? Maybe I open Apple Books to I title I’ve put aside for a month. How about I get offered a brief recap on the story to help bring me up to speed?

Lots of potential use for AI to make Apple’s products more personal and useful. Apple isn’t limited to being a ChatGPT competitor.

I think you're missing the Apple Watch, when discussing Apple AI: the whole health monitoring area could tailor recommendations to each individual's goals.

Also, AI will revolutionize search and the way we query information: the Socratic Method comes to mind.
 
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Everyone saying no is pretty much saying no I won't pay 20 dollars a month for something I have no idea about what it'll do. "Would you pay 20 dollars a month for a flibber?" No.

The key here is integration....How is Apple intending on integrating this with various apps and for various workflows. I've used Microsoft Copilot 365 and it's clunky and cumbersome and dumb compared to ChatGPT (even though it's "powered" by it). They integrated it into the Microsoft suite of apps (Teams, Excel, Outlook, Word, Powerpoint, and also has its own web portal like ChatGPT), however it seems to have different functionality in each one and it's hard to determine which is the best place to get what you want done completed in the most productive way.

If Apple is able to demonstrate a more thoughtful tool that integrates with different apps and the overall device, then yeah, they might create a golden goose. I doubt they can do that, but that's what would make this worth the 20 dollars a month I'd switch from ChatGPT+ to Apple.
 
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