Not happening. We are too far down the road of subscription fatigue here. I'm at the point of scrutinizing every dollar to get rid of these drains on my bank account. I'm just tired of everything being turned into a "service". I just want a product to buy and use and own forever. I've gone back to using my old iPod, buying used CDs and ripping them to my mac and just foregoing this "service" economy. It's truly a breath of fresh air.
Got a tip for us?
Let us know
Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
Would You Subscribe to Apple Intelligence? Analysts Say Some Features Could Cost Up to $20 Per Month
- Thread starter MacRumors
- Start date
- Sort by reaction score
Apple is simply gauging the elasticity of consumers through this article. Come on guys... Apple really could use some of your money.
Never. Only subscription I have have is Netflix. I’ll never get Apple Music, apple fitness or YouTube. I may try Apple TV on 3 month trail period stuff & maybe Amazon trial.
And I’ll never EVER get an adobe subscription! They can swivel for eternity!
Why doesn’t apple spend some of its dev money instead on getting the predictive text to work properly. Constantly creating words that don’t exist, poor grammar & precision when I’m trying to select & repair spelling mistakes is a joke now.
Constant resetting of dictionary on iPhone 13pm doesn’t fix the problem.
And I’ll never EVER get an adobe subscription! They can swivel for eternity!
Why doesn’t apple spend some of its dev money instead on getting the predictive text to work properly. Constantly creating words that don’t exist, poor grammar & precision when I’m trying to select & repair spelling mistakes is a joke now.
Constant resetting of dictionary on iPhone 13pm doesn’t fix the problem.
Zero chance. The only thing I use machine learning - The proper term for this stuff - For is code development. I do that work entirely on Linux using Github Copilot as the AI - Its been significantly better than ChatGPT. No interest in whatever Apple thinks I'm going to pay for. As is I only pay for a tiny bit more iCloud storage for iPhone backup. Apple Music and Arcade are rolled into my Verizon plan. If they weren't I wouldn't be paying separately for those. Don't care about the rest of what they're doing with Apple One.
Nope... why? The current (and possibly slightly future) is quite useless and servers more as a gimmick in most of the cases...
Not to mention it's impact on the broader world (it takes gigantic resources to train models) that has at the best so-so effect…
Not to mention it's impact on the broader world (it takes gigantic resources to train models) that has at the best so-so effect…
Because those features either won't be available on iOS devices or won't be integrated with them on a system level, and I don't see myself switching away anytime soon.
I’m one of the 5 people who pay for Apple TV+ so at this point why not ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
These subscription based models are getting utterly ridiculous and I’m getting sick of it. I’m not paying up to $20 a month to use something that should be free when purchasing a phone for $1200.
Hard no. Even with EVERYTHING I’ve seen so far and everything I’ve read from Gibson….the need or want just isn’t there. Nice to have? Perhaps. But what would I need it for to live a better life? Sort out my digital life and be my assistant? Let me get this straight. I buy a very VERY expensive device, to make my life better, but actually it just creates more issues that I need to pay for as well to sort out the issues it created?
I’ll reduce my dependency on said device instead.
(Side note: the “issue” here is that every company thinks the amount of income their products can create is infinite…and there are infinite number of companies. End result is these company is fighting for 2000% of your disposable income. The whole system needs a reality check IMHO. This is my main gripe with ads as well. They are never ending, it’s a barrage, and I simply can’t understand the economics of the online ads business because I know of no one, friends, family, colleagues etc who have ever clicked a link and bought something…..and honestly it’s destroying the experience of using a device when being bombarded with ads. Especially one as dear as an iPhone. It cheapens it….)
I’ll reduce my dependency on said device instead.
(Side note: the “issue” here is that every company thinks the amount of income their products can create is infinite…and there are infinite number of companies. End result is these company is fighting for 2000% of your disposable income. The whole system needs a reality check IMHO. This is my main gripe with ads as well. They are never ending, it’s a barrage, and I simply can’t understand the economics of the online ads business because I know of no one, friends, family, colleagues etc who have ever clicked a link and bought something…..and honestly it’s destroying the experience of using a device when being bombarded with ads. Especially one as dear as an iPhone. It cheapens it….)
I already pay subscriptions for the following:-
1. Music - AmazonPrime ($18 a year) and Spotify ($18 a Year)
2. TV / Movies - AmazonPrime ($18 a year shared with Music and shopping), Netflix and Disney etc.. (Bundled as free along with my Fiber)
3. Storage - OneDrive 6 TB ($72 a year), Google Drive 100 GB ($14 a Year) and iCloud 50 GB ($11 a Year)
Even my family mobile bills (about 6 numbers) and 500 MBPS Fiber Broadband do not come closer to this much for an additional non essential service AI ($20 a month)! Unless Apple Intelligence can get our professional tasks done without having to put lot of efforts, for personal needs, I do not think the charges may justify! In the professional world, your company may not allow you to use Apple Intelligence in any ways unless you are a freeelancer.
1. Music - AmazonPrime ($18 a year) and Spotify ($18 a Year)
2. TV / Movies - AmazonPrime ($18 a year shared with Music and shopping), Netflix and Disney etc.. (Bundled as free along with my Fiber)
3. Storage - OneDrive 6 TB ($72 a year), Google Drive 100 GB ($14 a Year) and iCloud 50 GB ($11 a Year)
Even my family mobile bills (about 6 numbers) and 500 MBPS Fiber Broadband do not come closer to this much for an additional non essential service AI ($20 a month)! Unless Apple Intelligence can get our professional tasks done without having to put lot of efforts, for personal needs, I do not think the charges may justify! In the professional world, your company may not allow you to use Apple Intelligence in any ways unless you are a freeelancer.
HobeSoundDarryl
macrumors G5
It ends only when consumers STOP collectively paying and/or finding the additional money/credit to pay.
Same with inflation. We take inflation as if it is an absolute and prices can only go up each year... but as we learned in Covid, that's not true (except with Apple of course). Inflation has a mirror tag called Deflation. What makes prices deflate? When people stop buying. When revenue falls, "sales" at lower prices tend to follow. And if short-term sales don't resolve the demand downturn, "regular" prices will adopt sale prices... or even work their way lower still.
At the ultimate level, seller wants the money more than buyer wants the stuff/service. So when both get very stubborn on their part of the bargain, the one who will almost always crack first is the seller. Why doesn't it seem this way now? Because buyers seem to have forgotten that they have this power... that they can say "NO" to any sales proposition as easily as they can say "YES" and the money won't automatically leave their wallets if they choose to hold it instead of spend it.
What NEVER works? Whine, gripe, complain (about price hikes) but then roll over and pay up. When we vote with our wallets by paying up, sellers only see that that the price hike/add-on/etc worked. They earn their bonuses, celebrate "another record quarter", etc. When any group of people show they don't really value their own money enough such that they'll readily pay MORE of it whenever sellers seek more... prices only go up and up and up.
If this implied idea about this subscription model is true and lots of people jump right on $20/month, the seller did great adding another new stream of revenue to the big pot of revenue streams. Pay them their bonuses, chip in new cash towards "another record quarter", etc. On the other hand, if the crowd actually acts on the collective sentiment seemingly accumulating in the thread by NOT paying, the service will likely get lumped in as an added value offering at no additional charge... or done away with.
Consumer wallets decide. Pay up and reward such thinking. Refuse and reel in such ideas.
Last edited:
Here we go again with apple and paid subscriptions on users….probably up the apple premier plan (which is already overpriced at $38) another $15 bucks a month
No thanks.
No thanks.
NO. Especially not if it's gen-ai garbage. All these companies trying to push crap we don't want. How about just making an affordable VR headset that works for gaming. Or an apple display that has modern features and isn't double the price of everything else. These companies are so out of touch with the average person's budget.
HobeSoundDarryl
macrumors G5
Yes. Certain "magic numbers" seem key to such models. For example:
- Notice how cellular service seems to heavily revolve around extracting $100/month from households. Various "number of lines" offerings all seem to focus on extracting $100/month per household. One offers 2 lines, another offers 4 or 5 lines but the bulk of them require $100/month to get the enticing per-line price being touted in the commercial. Call up trying to get it for 1 or 2 lines and you can't get the advertised price... unless the total bill can get to about $100/month from your household.
- Notice how all of the donation oriented marketing- be that veterans, hospitals, feed the world, save the pets, etc.- all revolve around $19.99/month... "only 6X cents a day." How can all of those relatively diverse kinds of needs all require about the same amount of money per month?
And by the time they get there, the magic number might have evolved to $150, so on to $150. Shareholders rejoice! 💰💰💰
Last edited:
From a purely personal standpoint, I think this is a great idea. They should charge for all Apple AI features. That way, I won't be bothered by any of them since I won't subscribe. 
Let me search the web for you...
NO!
Maybe include it in the iCloud+ subscription?
NO!
Maybe include it in the iCloud+ subscription?
Last edited:
HobeSoundDarryl
macrumors G5
The competitors do not offer their full AI for free right now, and so Apple obviously will not either.