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If someone doesn't like Apple Maps they should feel free to use something else. It's iOS. It's not like there are no alternatives.
 
If someone doesn't like Apple Maps they should feel free to use something else. It's iOS. It's not like there are no alternatives.

Not only that, but this is a crowdsourcing app, its going to improve vastly once it actually has iOS 6 users (at scale) feeding into it.
 
Not only that, but this is a crowdsourcing app, its going to improve vastly once it actually has iOS 6 users (at scale) feeding into it.

I agree. With all the iOS community feeding Maps, it should be overflowing with information quickly.
 
I know that the traffic data is crowd sourcing from other iPhone users. Now which "users" are we talking?

Only iOS6 users, new iPhone users, new maps app users?
 
I know that the traffic data is crowd sourcing from other iPhone users. Now which "users" are we talking?

Only iOS6 users, new iPhone users, new maps app users?

I am curious to see if the crowd sourced data is better than what we get in Waze.

I haven't heard anyone state that they get rerouted if traffic is heavy, yet.
 
When you want to do turn by turn, is there a way to have navigation as it looks if you're looking straight down at your location? Or does it automatically force you into the angled view for turn by turn?
 
I'm sure it'll develop into a competitive product over time (2 years maybe). Until then it's going to be different levels of "flop" I guess. ;)
 
I'm sure it'll develop into a competitive product over time (2 years maybe). Until then it's going to be different levels of "flop" I guess. ;)

...are you seriously beta testing a next generation 3D maps app on a 3GS?
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I know that the traffic data is crowd sourcing from other iPhone users. Now which "users" are we talking?

Only iOS6 users, new iPhone users, new maps app users?

Every useful traffic service out there is crowd-sourced... anything else would be a static representation of working sites and publicly announced blocked roads.

Apple uses TomToms traffic data which is pretty much the best out there and really useful. If I check TomToms data online and then compare to the traffic data reported on Apple Maps it's exactly the same (in Germany). Which is good.

Apple uses data from Waze and other companies as well, but if that is for traffic or other things, I don't know. But we're still in beta, so probably the beta maps do not tap every source available.
 
Not impressed.

Not cool. The iPhone 4 and 3GS have got a downgrade realistically. Yes I get Apple want their users to upgrade to their newest and greatest but this seems a bit ass holey. Fine, I don't need the sat-nav, fine I don't need the fancy 3d buildings, but street-view is damn useful (for example find my iPhone) and hardly any businesses are going to have all their contact information like their post code and phone number, registerd with Apple. Especially small local companies. Google had the upper hand and they should have stuck with it and not given a second rate utility. I love Apple, and yeah I guess they got some heat with Google, but Apple should at least give the option of what service to use until it was on par with Google maps.
 
Not cool. The iPhone 4 and 3GS have got a downgrade realistically. Yes I get Apple want their users to upgrade to their newest and greatest but this seems a bit ass holey. Fine, I don't need the sat-nav, fine I don't need the fancy 3d buildings, but street-view is damn useful (for example find my iPhone) and hardly any businesses are going to have all their contact information like their post code and phone number, registerd with Apple. Especially small local companies. Google had the upper hand and they should have stuck with it and not given a second rate utility. I love Apple, and yeah I guess they got some heat with Google, but Apple should at least give the option of what service to use until it was on par with Google maps.

This is a beta product were talking about, so you can't honestly say what apple will or won't do with this app yet, everything you've said is pure speculation & assumption... Yet you're posting as if it's a foregone conclusion.
 
Haha, next generation eh...? I bet he's right, it'll be a few years until it's up to snuff. Hopefully Siri's continued beta status is not an indication for the future of apple's maps as well.

Of course it will be. How long has Siri been in Beta? It's just an excuse to release unfinished products while the clients feel "cool" about being the first to try an unfinished product.

In 2 years time, Apple Maps will still be a Beta, trying to catch up to Google maps.
 
I haven't used Waze, but the crowd sourced data has worked well for me so far.

In the DC Metro area the traffic data isn't all that great (directly compared to Waze). Which is odd cause I thought it used some of the Waze data.
 
In the DC Metro area the traffic data isn't all that great (directly compared to Waze). Which is odd cause I thought it used some of the Waze data.

Apparently Apple are doing their own crowd-sourcing for traffic data. So this, at least, should improve once its out of beta and more people are using it.
 
Apparently Apple are doing their own crowd-sourcing for traffic data. So this, at least, should improve once its out of beta and more people are using it.

Is it just people on iOS 6 or on iOS at all? It found traffic in an area where I seriously doubt there would be a lot of iOS 6 beta users.
 
When you want to do turn by turn, is there a way to have navigation as it looks if you're looking straight down at your location? Or does it automatically force you into the angled view for turn by turn?

You choose, there's a button, in normal view if you press the 3D button in the bottom corner, it angles, press it again and it goes to top-down view.
 
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