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this new mapping system isn't sounding too good - my friend who updated to iOS 6 GM told me how poor it was earlier. Can't we get iPhone 5 running iOS 5? Haha
 
They do not need to update the phone to update the maps.

To adnew features like mass transit they would. It lacks huge amounts of features and it will be added to slowly.
Compare that to Google maps on Android that regularly adds more features by software updates.
 
Does anyone agree with me that Apple should incorporate a slider to adjust the navigation voice volume? Sometimes normal isn't loud enough and loud is too loud.
 
Having seen the GM release, unless Apple have a massive update on the server side planned just before or on release, there will be a lot of people (myself included) who will be very very angry.

Maps is a massive downgrade. My street (a residential street in a housing estate) is supposedly a green area in plan view, and the imagery looks like Google maps from 7 years ago. It's massively pixelated.

In the UK (and I believe the EU), customers would legally be entitled to a refund because the product has actually been made worse and isn't as originally described (even after one year)
 
Thank you for specific criticism

I wouldn't consider it trolling to offer constructive and detailed criticism of an app. .... Users offer constructive criticism = better products from Apple in the future.
Living in Vietnam, I will not be upgrading either. Too bad the maps is inseparable from the rest of the upgrade. Thank you for specificity and no I do not consider it trolling. :cool:
 
Having seen the GM release, unless Apple have a massive update on the server side planned just before or on release, there will be a lot of people (myself included) who will be very very angry.

I doubt there will be massive fixes, but there is some evidence Apple are serving some users more updated content than others. For instance, I cannot seem to get the river Han on the vector maps for Seoul - a major city with probably a million or more iPhone users. Another users does see it.

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1441571/

While not proving much, I find it almost unbelievable that Apple would release e.g. the map of Seoul without its most defining feature: it's like releasing a London map without the Thames.
 
I tried using turn by turn navigation today. Navigation certainly need refining.

I couldn't see the next turn ahead as it was off the map, you can't zoom in or out while navigating, no option to get TTS to shut up.

Then it came to my return journey home. Set it to go home, noticed as I was driving it was sending me an odd direction. I stop the navigation and had a look when the final destination was and it was 6 miles out. I check my address book and my contact card is correct. Go back to maps and put in my postcode, the pin is placed on my home correctly. I start the navigation and it navigates me back to the location 6 miles out. I find that the wrong location is another street with the same name as mine, but I only gave the app my postcode.

I can't ask Siri "take me home". It replies "I couldn't find an address for Simon - home". Yet my address is listed under "home" tag.
 
It's important to remember there's a huge amount of work into creating and populating a maps application.

One choice that Apple had was to build it, but not release it until it was further along than it is.

By skipping that option and allowing users to try what they have so far, may not have been a very good choice on Apple's part.
 
In the UK (and I believe the EU), customers would legally be entitled to a refund because the product has actually been made worse and isn't as originally described (even after one year)

They really wouldn't. Apple aren't forcing you to upgrade.
 
Well I'm waiting for a comparison, with the only really good mapping solution... which is Nokia maps. It completely blows that "offline maps" from google.

From what I've seen apple maps navigation looks embarasing compared to Nokias solution, which works worldwide and completely offline.

Even Flyover has been available for a year at nokia maps (just in the Browser however)

However I hope that apple improves their solution so that there is a another mapping competitor.
 
Really?

They really wouldn't. Apple aren't forcing you to upgrade.
Not really true if you want other features of the new iOS and must take the new maps along with them.

Based on my own research on TomTom site and comments here coming from Korea, I think Apple may have given Samsung/Android a huge unintended sales boost in Asia. Poor maps in one's home country would be a big negative to buying an iPhone 5 for a lot of people.
 
Gjwilly: Perhaps you think that only those who live in US cities are deserving of quality service. :rolleyes: This forum should have a down arrow to reverse the up ones.

He's complaining that he can't use Siri to give him turn by turn voice directions to his home.
He forgets that he couldn't do this with Google Maps either.
:p
If he's really that concerned then he should either move or use one of the dozens of turn by turn apps that are still in the App Store.
Of course one of those does sound like an awful lot of trouble.
;)
 
Nokia alternative

Well I'm waiting for a comparison, with the only really good mapping solution... which is Nokia maps. It completely blows that "offline maps" from google.
Thanks for the heads up. I did not even know Nokia Maps even existed. I checked out the desktop and it looks good. It found my home and even the name of the street and I live on what would be called a back alley anywhere in the US or UK. Google has my street but calls it "unnamed road." Streets and street names in Ho Chi Minh city are a full level deeper in detail than Google. Also, when I looked for directions, I found when I just dragged a part of the route, I got a clean alternate route without getting the figure 8 spaghetti that I always seem to get with Google.

Apparently you can only get the native app on a Nokia phone (tempting) but like Google, you can access it from a browser. I will try it on my iPad if I can just tear it away from the wife. ;)
 
I live in Tokyo, Japan and Apple Maps makes Tokyo look like how it was when my grandfather was a wee lad.
I always thought that Google Map's representation of Tokyo was information overload, but now having to see Apples 'Clean and Slick' approach I realize that every bit of clutter Google Map provided was a necessity.
Also as a Tokyoite, public transportation and the underground portions of the city (and we've got plenty of that) are something that really need to be mapped. This is not only for us locals but for tourists and business people that are taking a plunge into the labyrinthine Tokyo underground.
Finally, the absence of StreetView will hurt in Japan where exact addresses are a rarity and streets have no names. Most of us rely on landmarks and local shops to identify an exact location. Google StreeView was very good for this purpose and it will be dearly missed.
I don't expect any big improvements in the "final final" release of iOS6 but something really needs to be done.
Like many of us here, I am hoping that Google can get past Apple's evil ways and release Google Maps as a standalone app.
 
Apparently you can only get the native app on a Nokia phone (tempting) but like Google, you can access it from a browser. I will try it on my iPad if I can just tear it away from the wife. ;)

Nokia Maps will replace Bing maps on all Windows 8 phones, not just those by Nokia.
 
They really wouldn't. Apple aren't forcing you to upgrade.

Well... yes they are, if you want to maintain critical bug fixes or keep the current APIs without which your apps rely (for example even iPlayer requires iOS 5.2 now... It is reasonable to expect many common apps will require iOS 6 by the end of the year).

The devices stuck on iOS 3 & 4 still have critical browser vulnerabilities which allow websites to take full control of the device which can't be fixed.

Someone in the UK would have a very good case on that basis.
 
I gave iOS 6 a shot on my iPhone 4 to see how maps were..

I am in India.

And my expectations were really low after reading all posts. But they haven't got it right at the most basic level.. I am quite surprised how a company like apple could take such a huge risk. I mean had they started developing much earlier then it would have been at least at a decent stage.

Also, as apple has started launching iPhones simultaneously to multiple countries, it has to do away with "what US needs" mentality. I mean they could continue but apple has as much customer base outside US as in the US if not more.

I guess the only people not complaining about the maps are in the US. Except for that the maps are horrible everywhere.

And I don't agree with comments like they aren't switched on yet. They are what they are.

Yes, there will be improvements on a daily basis but the pace at which it's going for the US, I have no idea when will apple be able to do for rest of the world..

I really hope I don't have to give up on iPhone coz of maps..

I tried giving maps.google.com too on the browser. But it's sluggish like hell and expected so.

Apple might be selling millions right now but its like a bubble and if not handled properly, it could burst anytime now...

Would be sad to see apple going that way whn they had resources to rectify things but they just opted to take their own sweet time..
 
Well... yes they are, if you want to maintain critical bug fixes or keep the current APIs without which your apps rely (for example even iPlayer requires iOS 5.2 now... It is reasonable to expect many common apps will require iOS 6 by the end of the year).

The devices stuck on iOS 3 & 4 still have critical browser vulnerabilities which allow websites to take full control of the device which can't be fixed.

Someone in the UK would have a very good case on that basis.

Infact they also force u to update once they release a new version by not signing the older SHSH blobs.. I mean I could still live with some older apps with fewer functionalities only if they allowed us to install whichever iOS version we wanted to.

So if something goes wrong and I have to restore my iPhone. There is no way to going back to older version witjoou jailbreaking... So yes apple does force u in multiple ways..
 
Is there a way to get maps to repeat the audio directions? I tried and after tapping furiously, couldn't find a way
 
I'm fairly content with it. Does what I need. I got a transit app which covers trains and buses around town and on hybrid, zoomed at the right level all the detail is present.

pretty sweet really. flyover will be absolute candy if they ever release it in aus
 
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