Wow disappointing!

[JoshuaBru]

We all wanted this. SIGH

iT nEeDs a ChIn tO hOuSe tHe fAn aNd MoThErbOaRdDdDdD

 

[acader]

Couldn't they have used the device color for the bezel as well. That would have in some sense faked a bezel free display. Height adjustment would have been a great feature.

 

[Kierkegaarden]

We all wanted this. SIGH

Yes, that would be neat — but where would they put the guts? This just isn’t practical for an all-in-one.

They could double the thickness, but you would end up with a lot of needless dead space — and even then, I don’t know if certain components like speakers and mics would still need to be isolated.

Having the chin solves design challenges, but creates others — it’s a compromise.

In the end, does the chin get in the way of the user being productive? Or the lack of a logo on the front for that matter? I think the new iMac looks nice, I’m getting one, and I’ll be productive to the max (on the Mac 😉)

 

[MrTSolar]

iT nEeDs a ChIn tO hOuSe tHe fAn aNd MoThErbOaRdDdDdD

No, not really.

For those that have never seen the inside of an iMac or iPad Pro, look below. For the iMac, the motherboard, disk drive, power supply, fan, and speakers are all behind the display. All the chin does is provide alignment for the display glass. On the iPad, you have 4 speakers, one in each corner, two battery cells on either side, and the motherboard is the skinny piece in the middle. By the way, the iPad shown is the 11", which now has an M1 chip, and is 5.9 mm thick, compared to the M1 iMac at 11.5 mm. My 2020 MacBook Air is 16.1 mm at it's thickest, and that includes a keyboard between the mainboard, fan, and display.

 

[LiquidJay]

Having worked in the Apple Stores as a Technician, this would not work right now.

#1: a screen that takes up the entire device, in this case, would lead to a much larger casing in back. This would defeat the purpose of what Apple has done with the iMac for some time now: having a thinner over all computer

#2: Without the "chin", you lose access to space for the system board, the larger speakers that are befitting the iMac, and the cooling fans. The fans are the most important part in this case due to heat dissipation for both the logic board and the display. A display this large would generate a pretty significant amount of heat within the casing. Especially when you consider that the logic board would also have a better integrated graphics chip than the MacBook Pros currently.

MacOS is still a much more powerful OS than iPadOS is. The inevitable direction would be to create an iPad that could run MacOS or a unified OS, but it does still require more power overall. With the requirements for, again, heat dissipation, higher graphics processing, etc., this design would not, currently, work as an iMac.

Now...as an external display to replace the old Thunderbolt displays... 🤔

you forgot one thing .... to drop the mic. Thanks!

 

[AutomaticApple]

Should have been like this Dell. All circuits could have easily fit into the monitor stand like this and remove the chin. View attachment 1761630

Great idea. Let's just forget that VESA iMacs exist...

This continues to plague Apple

They love to solve problems nobody has… And in the process create new ones

They don't love to solve problems that don't matter (i.e. Tech enthusiasts whining on Apple forums)...

To be fair though, I have the suspicion the upcoming iMac Pro’s will have no bezels and will essentially be iPads on sticks. Sleek.

Nah, too aesthetically different from the regular iMac.

These two points are what it’s all about for me.

It was long ago settled that black bezels are much better for this type of use case and product.
It’s fine that they want to offer white ones, but you’ve got to offer black ones optionally also.

huge miss there

Not relevant to normal people... at all...

Remember when everybody was complaining about the notch? This is no different...

The colouring just makes it look like a kids toy.

Sorry, you don't get to enjoy your boring sterile colors, but this isn't a computer for professionals such as yourself. In fact, you basically described the target market of this iMac. Kids/students, home use, etc...

 

[code-m]

I knew they would way over-index on "how it looks in a dentists office, to the customer at the desk"
In no way whatsoever is it useful or even advantageous to have it be so thin...

To the point of now having a power brick and external ethernet.


It still has a massive chin and still isn't height adjustable

I get that this M1 iMac is replacing the entry 21.5” Intel iMac however it seems like a lost opportunity to create something revolutionary.

Consider if the only thing this product had was a screen, camera, speakers passive cooling, some ports, a stand and a power adapter the size of an AppleTV that housed the M1, RAM, SSD, Ethernet, Fan and the Mag connector to attach it to the display it would have had the life span of the display to account for. Granted there is a MacMini but that product can be merged with this or possibly be reduced in physical size. How it is possible to fit the M1 with a fan in the shell of a MBP plus batteries that it cannot be done in the footprint of an AppleTV. Plus if you needed to upgrade just sell the square puck, selling it would be easy and getting it sent for repairs or taking it in would not require to take the entire screen with you.

Seriously with the M1 the possibilities are endless for hardware design as proven with the passive cooled iPad Pro and what does Apple do give users another iteration of the same old design, it’s like Ives had a hand in this before departing.

Imagine working in an office and at the end of the day securely taking the square puck computer and locking it in a safe with no care in the world if a theft, fire, flood, etc were to occur.

 

[code-m]

Nah, i love the new design! I don't mind the chin still and I really dig the white bezel. The super thin design in the body and stand are gorgeous and the new Magic keyboard looks great with the more rounded corners. Definitely going to switch up my M1 Mac mini for this day one!

Count me as super impressed with this update.

The chin has been done and long in the tooth, it’s sad that after and over a decade the iMac has no revolutionary design changes. The best iMac to date was the Pixar lamp inspired flower pot, the Bondi was next and then the rest.

 

[EntropyQ3]

Yes, that would be neat — but where would they put the guts? This just isn’t practical for an all-in-one.

Yes, that would be neat — but where would they put the guts? This just isn’t practical for an all-in-one.

They could double the thickness, but you would end up with a lot of needless dead space — and even then, I don’t know if certain components like speakers and mics would still need to be isolated.

Having the chin solves design challenges, but creates others — it’s a compromise.

In the end, does the chin get in the way of the user being productive? Or the lack of a logo on the front for that matter? I think the new iMac looks nice, I’m getting one, and I’ll be productive to the max (on the Mac 😉)

You would put the guts at the attachment to the stand where you could make a bulge, like the camera bulge on the iPhones, of sufficient size to house the computing parts.
This would
* Get rid of the chin.
* Remove the need for sufficient depth of the housing to account for the computing parts and cooling.
* Keep the center of gravity of the screen close to the pivot.

Oh, and I agree the white bezel looks really weird with the coloured chin. This design is quite nice - but only as long as you don't look at it from the front. Apple PR agrees, their promotion material largely avoids showing that perspective.

 

[Klyster]

No doubt there'll be quite a few businesses out there printing out some high quality bezel stickers or perhaps even entire screen covers, ala Slickwraps.
They'll make a killing, until everyone jumps on board.

 

[code-m]

Yes, that would be neat — but where would they put the guts? This just isn’t practical for an all-in-one.

They could double the thickness, but you would end up with a lot of needless dead space — and even then, I don’t know if certain components like speakers and mics would still need to be isolated.

Having the chin solves design challenges, but creates others — it’s a compromise.

In the end, does the chin get in the way of the user being productive? Or the lack of a logo on the front for that matter? I think the new iMac looks nice, I’m getting one, and I’ll be productive to the max (on the Mac 😉)

Somewhere down the road Apple releases an iMac without a chin and this statement/reasoning of yours would not age well. But I am sure you and other will claim some advancement and innovation that made it possible at a later date.

Give it up if Apple can make an iPad Pro with an M1 passive cooled with four speakers, FaceID, slim bezels, batteries, etc in that thin portable body plus also making a M1 MBP with a fan, speakers, batteries, KB, TouchPad and USB-C ports along with a headphone jack then there is absolutely no reason these engineers cannot try harder. The XDR display which probably gives off more heat has cooling vents at the rear with no chin. This is some lame design offering that portrays laziness after over a decade of the same form factor if you include iMac G5 then this design is ancient. If Apple cannot figure out a way to actually innovate an AIO then just drop it all together, maybe go the modular route with compartments on the bottom for future upgrades, repairs and you know the environment.

 

[code-m]

No doubt there'll be quite a few businesses out there printing out some high quality bezel stickers or perhaps even entire screen covers, ala Slickwraps.
They'll make a killing, until everyone jumps on board.

Colour ware will be all over this.

 

[code-m]

You would put the guts at the attachment to the stand where you could make a bulge, like the camera bulge on the iPhones, of sufficient size to house the computing parts.
This would
* Get rid of the chin.
* Remove the need for sufficient depth of the housing to account for the computing parts and cooling.
* Keep the center of gravity of the screen close to the pivot.

Oh, and I agree the white bezel looks really weird with the coloured chin. This design is quite nice - but only as long as you don't look at it from the front. Apple PR agrees, their promotion material largely avoids showing that perspective.

You can technically house the entire CPU guts in an AppleTV square puck and integrate the PSU and have it all connect with the MagConnector. People don’t replace monitors, speakers, mic, camera, ports, KB, mouse as much as the CPU guts plus it would make upgrades simple, repairs easier and a plus for the environment. I am aware there is a M1 MacMini which can either be dissolved into this or discontinued.

 

[code-m]

No doubt there'll be quite a few businesses out there printing out some high quality bezel stickers or perhaps even entire screen covers, ala Slickwraps.
They'll make a killing, until everyone jumps on board.

The point to make the bezels black was that it made the image float and standout this was done in the MacBook line for a reason. This looks like the iMac G5 design and the eMac which aligns this product for schools.

 

[MBX]

Somewhere down the road Apple releases an iMac without a chin and this statement/reasoning if yours would not age well. But I am sure you and other will claim some advancement and innovation that made it possible at a later date.

Give it up if Apple can make an iPad Pro with an M1 passive cooled with four speakers, FaceID, slim bezels, batteries, etc in that thin portable body plus also making a M1 MBP with a fan, speakers, batteries, KB, TouchPad and USB-C ports along with a headphone jack then there is absolutely no reason these engineers cannot try harder. The XDR display which probably gives off more heat has cooling vents at the rear with no chin. This is some lame design offering that portrays laziness after over a decade of the same form factor if you include iMac G5 then this design is ancient. If Apple cannot figure out a way to actually innovate an AIO then just drop it all together, maybe go the modular route with compartments on the bottom for future upgrades, repairs and you know the environment.

Yup.

 

[bushman4]

My thought is that if Johnny Ives was still around the aesthetics of this iMac would be much better
Don’t get me wrong the M-1 chip is a great advance but the chin is unacceptable

 

[MBX]

My thought is that if Johnny Ives was still around the aesthetics of this iMac would be much better
Don’t get me wrong the M-1 chip is a great advance but the chin is unacceptable

Please understand that this design was most likely approved or even created by Ive many years ago or at least through his company LoveFrom. Designs at Apple don't just happen few months or a year before release.

 

[illitrate23]

We all wanted this. SIGH

Sorry to break it to you, but most rumours, even those reported on this site, are just made up by people with overactive photoshop skills.
To avoid disappointment in the future, never believe any rumour and never invest any hope or emotion into any rumour, until Apple hold their press event and show you what they have built.

 

[Cassandle]

Imagine how popular Apple would be if instead of their current designers and engineers, they hired people from this forum instead

 

[2ilent8cho]

I wish they had just put an M1 in the current iMac design, at least my eyes would not bleed looking at it, that new iMac is just ugly. I don't like the colours of the new iMac and why the hell is there no Apple logo on the chin? It looks wrong without one. I'm hoping by the time we need to refresh our 90 iMacs something better looking will be available.

 

[MacWorld78]

Sorry to break it to you, but most rumours, even those reported on this site, are just made up by people with overactive photoshop skills.
To avoid disappointment in the future, never believe any rumour and never invest any hope or emotion into any rumour, until Apple hold their press event and show you what they have built.

Apple should hire those people with overactive photoshop skills - I must admit they are incredible clever design concept. Let's be honest who really want to see that chin everyday with apple logo and now without logo.

 

[VotingforSnoopy16]

I'm considering getting one with reservations. I wish it would come with 32GB, I understand why it hasn't. Three upgrades from Adobe CC, and this thing is already crying for more RAM. I almost wish they would've stayed with Intel, so we could at least get a desktop with some shelf life. Once again, Apple has made it hard to choose to buy now or wait for more RAM. Every announcement for the past year has been blessed with this question.

 

[Homy]

This iMac has replaced the old 21.5" so with that in mind it's a good replacement. Hopefully the larger iMacs for pros will have some of the lacking features people talk about later this year. I miss the logo on the chin but it's not a big deal. Don't mind the chin at all since you get best sound from the speakers there. Where else could they put them for best sound? Don't mind the bezels. They're thin enough. Black would be better but I've had all white iMac 17" 2006 and it didn't bother me as I can remember (still have it without using).

Few people seem to talk about the advantage of a power brick outside the iMac. It will be easy to replace if needed instead of having to send the iMac away for service. Also less heat inside the computer and longer life for other components.

I was hoping though for a better GPU option like Vega 20 in the older iMac. 23.5" is enough for me since I currently use iMac 21.5" 2011, but I understand that they just wanted to replace the old 21.5" and better options will come in fall with M2. I just hope that my iMac 2011 will last until then. I was ready to buy but this one is not for me. Looking forward to the big Macs.

 

[MrTSolar]

Sorry to break it to you, but most rumours, even those reported on this site, are just made up by people with overactive photoshop skills.
To avoid disappointment in the future, never believe any rumour and never invest any hope or emotion into any rumour, until Apple hold their press event and show you what they have built.

That may be, but the chin-less iMac shown looks way better than what Apple actually released. Besides, if Microsoft can release a large screen AIO that has thin bezels, no chin, is touchscreen, and is just as thin, why can't Apple with a more integrated and energy efficient mainboard, especially since they already did it with iPad Pro? Or are we supposed to forget that the Surface Pro and Studio 2 exist?

Granted, many designs take time to warm up, but right now the pastel color/white bezel combo just clashes with the rest of the Mac lineup with their metal colors. Looking at the front, the silver is the least objectionable combination to me. I understand they want to expand color choices, but how you apply the color matters. Example, the iPhone 12 blue is too intense and IMO makes the phone look like cheap plastic, but the 12 Pro blue is beautiful. Plus, just about any color works with a black screen bezel or a color-matched bezel.

 

[Serban55]

No, not really.

For those that have never seen the inside of an iMac or iPad Pro, look below. For the iMac, the motherboard, disk drive, power supply, fan, and speakers are all behind the display. All the chin does is provide alignment for the display glass. On the iPad, you have 4 speakers, one in each corner, two battery cells on either side, and the motherboard is the skinny piece in the middle. By the way, the iPad shown is the 11", which now has an M1 chip, and is 5.9 mm thick, compared to the M1 iMac at 11.5 mm. My 2020 MacBook Air is 16.1 mm at it's thickest, and that includes a keyboard between the mainboard, fan, and display.

what are you talking about?
you do know the M1 from the ipad will be undervolted right? it will not drive up to 30W or so like the 13" mbp or the future 24" imac will do
I suspect the imac to have even higher clock speeds for the cpu and gpu thanks to its active 2 fans cooling right on the mother board (less space for the air to travel vs the intel imacs)
And, tell me, Apple if it went with your design ...after 2-3 years when the M3 will need proper cooling, apple will redesign it again? No 100%, they learned their lesson after trashcan fiasco
Again ipad pro with M1 is 50% faster then the A12Z...so is not close to the M1 from the active cooling mbp13"
The imac needs the chin for the speakers, motherboard and for the fans...i dont want again an imac with the ventilation that travels from below throught the motherboard and behind the display and making spots and bringing micro dust particle into the display
This way, they place almost everything into the chin, and the display is away from the heat of the motherboard completely , and i hope sealed at micron level

yes one way Apple could do it is like Microsoft Studio....that device is a DOE because that small base can no longer support higher dGpu inside, no wonder is no longer upgraded(GTX 1070 being top level that they can fit into that encloser)...but apple could do it since they are on arm architecture and needs less space