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[WW] Battlestar Galactica - GAME OVER - MISSION ACCOMPLISHED

SilentPanda said:
It won't be 9 v 4.

There are 10 players right now.

Kill Baltar, it's 5 v 3 tomorrow (Baltar and a citizen die)
Kill a cylon at random (Cylon and a citizen die), it's 5 v 3 tomorrow
Kill an exploding cylon at random (12 dies, citizen dies, citizen dies), it's 4 v 3 tomorrow.
Kill a citizen at random, (2 citizens die, 1 to lynch, 1 to cylons), it's 4 v 4 tomorrow.

Baltar or a random luck cylon kill is the best bet in my opinion. Hence my nod towards Baltar.
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very good points.
one possibility is that we go for one other than sythas tonight, and tomorrow we vote immediately for sythas if he has turned (so they have no time to pile on stray votes).
if sythas has not turned (remember we would know this first thing in the morning, with the narration of the night kill) we try to get another one in the list.
it will be a very tight game and everyone has to be disciplined, or we are not going to pull it off.

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another variable is how sythas decides to play.
he can play it as a human until turned or he can play with the cylons.
i'm going with plutonius as well, for now
 
Don't panic said:
very good points.
one possibility is that we go for one other than sythas tonight, and tomorrow we vote immediately for sythas if he has turned (so they have no time to pile on stray votes).
if sythas has not turned (remember we would know this first thing in the morning, with the narration of the night kill) we try to get another one in the list.
it will be a very tight game and everyone has to be disciplined, or we are not going to pull it off.
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If Sythas is Baltar why wouldn't the cylons contact him tonight? There's nothing to prevent that. Unless you and Sythas are lying about him being Baltar?

Until we can discern who is who, good luck to either side at coordinating votes. No offense to a few people, and maybe I only consider people to be "on" when they are posting, but several people don't seem to be on but every other day.

Anyway... I'll go Sythas for now. If I'm convinced it's the wrong move, I can change. Plutonius is 'winning' at the moment with 3 anyway.

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Don't panic said:
another variable is how sythas decides to play.
he can play it as a human until turned or he can play with the cylons.
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According to the rules, he'll end up being a cylon all the way.
 
SilentPanda said:
If Sythas is Baltar why wouldn't the cylons contact him tonight? There's nothing to prevent that. Unless you and Sythas are lying about him being Baltar?

Until we can discern who is who, good luck to either side at coordinating votes. No offense to a few people, and maybe I only consider people to be "on" when they are posting, but several people don't seem to be on but every other day.

Anyway... I'll go Sythas for now. If I'm convinced it's the wrong move, I can change. Plutonius is 'winning' at the moment with 3 anyway.

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According to the rules, he'll end up being a cylon all the way.
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not if we kill Six tonight
 
I'm still baffled by my friend Plutonius, who came out of the blue with a post containing more characters than the entirety of his previous ones, got ninja'd (at least in my perception - I have 40 posts per page I think, his was the first upon a new page) by don't Panic's outing and kinda left the building afterwards again.

So I still would vote for him, but we haven't even got a deadline yet and should avoid any kind of bandwagon as of yet.
 
SilentPanda said:
You're more a gambling man than I then.
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well, if we get Six (20% odds), he stays human for good. if we don't, tomorrow morning at opening we will know if he turned or not. if he did, all citizen vote for him, we majority lock and we are back to where you want to be now.


right now we are 7-3 (counting sythas as still human)
a. we lynch six (20%): we go 7-2, tomorrow we are 6-2 (2 cylons) assuming a successful night kill, sythas cannot be turned. best case scenario)
b. we lynch #12 (20%): we go 6-2, tomorrow we are 5-2 (2 cylons). if sythas is turned we are 4-3, and we lynch him to go 4-2
c. we lynch brother cavil (20%): we go 7-2, tomorrow we are 6-2 (2 cylons) if sythas is turned we are 5-3, and we lynch him to go 5-2
d. we lynch a citizen (40%): we go 6-3, tomorrow we go 5-3 (3 cylons), if sythas is turned we are 4-4, not sure what happens there? first to 4 wins? automatic loss
e. we lynch sythas (100% if we decide so): we go 6-3 tomorrow we go 5-3 (3 cylons), thus again we have a 40% chance of going into the next day with a tie like scenario (d)

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i will also go back to no-vote for now

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one note, all this is done with the assumption the no-kill identified #12. if it didn't, then 12 does not know right away who to vote with, and they do not know who #12 is, so their power is somewhat limited
 
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chrmjenkins said:
What's with the no votes? It's Sythas or someone else.
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i don't think it should be sythas, as i think it just delays by one day the same situation, but we lose the off chance of getting Six and thus keeping sythas in the 'good' column.

i am inclined to go with pluto or rick, but i didn't want to get in a situation where the cylons can pile on a citizen and get very close to winning the game tonight
 
SilentPanda said:
Don't really care, but you felt jav might be a cylon strong enough to make a post about it a bit ago. He seems to be excluded now. Has something changed since then?
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no, quite the opposite,
the post was about him less likely to be a "connected" cylon (six or cavil or connected #12) then a non-connected cylon (#12) or not a cylon.
i added that if jav turned out to be a connected cylon after all, the other connections would likely be in who voted for Koodauw.
 
Don't panic said:
no, quite the opposite,
the post was about him less likely to be a "connected" cylon (six or cavil or connected #12) then a non-connected cylon (#12) or not a cylon.
i added that if jav turned out to be a connected cylon after all, the other connections would likely be in who voted for Koodauw.
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Ah gotcha. Sometimes I can't understand what we're all saying. Sometimes even myself.
 
It is my assumption that no actions are confirmed unless posted by the game god, as they are the only undeniably verified user. We can discuss further in the other general thread though.
 
Don't panic said:
no, quite the opposite,
the post was about him less likely to be a "connected" cylon (six or cavil or connected #12) then a non-connected cylon (#12) or not a cylon.
i added that if jav turned out to be a connected cylon after all, the other connections would likely be in who voted for Koodauw.
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You'd be wrong to assume so. I saved myself from a possibility p me dying. So I find it hard to believe there is a dual Ceylon vote in there. Although, I recall correctly, in some WW games wolves usually block voted. However that practice has been long since abandoned due to how easy it was to figure out the wolves.

I recall that Dont Panic made that strategy shift. I find it highly dubious how he is always claiming himself free from all Cylon activities. Always pointing the finger. Never swaying. Strikes me very familiar as that one game in which he called the shots and turned into the murderous wolf in the end.

I'm just saying...
 
jav6454 said:
You'd be wrong to assume so. I saved myself from a possibility p me dying. So I find it hard to believe there is a dual Ceylon vote in there. Although, I recall correctly, in some WW games wolves usually block voted. However that practice has been long since abandoned due to how easy it was to figure out the wolves.

I recall that Dont Panic made that strategy shift. I find it highly dubious how he is always claiming himself free from all Cylon activities. Always pointing the finger. Never swaying. Strikes me very familiar as that one game in which he called the shots and turned into the murderous wolf in the end.

I'm just saying...
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Explain to me a scenario in which Don't Panic is bad and Sythas also fessed up to being Baltar, even when we know he hasn't been activated. If we kill Sythas tonight and he comes up Cylon, we know don't panic lied and lynch him next.
 
i am not sure what you are trying to say, but if koodauw had logged in and voted for you on 4-4, you would be dead with your own vote not working for you

as far as me be all cylony, well I am a Cylon so there you go
only i am the good cylon this time around
honestly i don't really see how you. could reasonably doubt that
 
All I'll say is and the point of the entire post was:

Don't listen to just one guy.

As per DP. In a far fetched scenario, he could be throwing under the bus his fellow comrade the Baltar. Far fetched is key work here.

That said I do believe DP is the seer, but who to defend? Twietee or Athena? Both seemingly cleared humans.
 
Updating to no vote. may as well wait for rick to speak up too.

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jav6454 said:
All I'll say is and the point of the entire post was:

Don't listen to just one guy.

As per DP. In a far fetched scenario, he could be throwing under the bus his fellow comrade the Baltar. Far fetched is key work here.

That said I do believe DP is the seer, but who to defend? Twietee or Athena? Both seemingly cleared humans.
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It's impossible for him to know the Baltar, be a bad Cylon, and for us to have not received the Baltar activated message from the GG.
 
chrmjenkins said:
Updating to no vote. may as well wait for rick to speak up too.

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It's impossible for him to know the Baltar, be a bad Cylon, and for us to have not received the Baltar activated message from the GG.
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Not to mention that if i weren't athena, another live player must be

Unrelated, why is it "the" baltar and not just baltar? Is it not just a name? (Not a big BG buff)
 
I'm going with Plutonius, because of his voting history (Koodauw), relative silence, and I kind of believe Sythas' contact attempt results, given the fact that I know he's right about me.

I have a bachelorette thing tomorrow most of the day/night, but I'll try to pop in while I'm sober. ;)
 
Since QoS has thrown the first stone... and since it can no longer be avoided given that we might be placed in a short deadline. I am now voting for chrmjenkins.

I do believe in Don't Panic's Athena statement, and Twietee kind of killed someone erroneously, so that saves them. Me, well, I'm innocent, so don't count on me.

List of possible Cylons:
- Chrmjenkins
- Rick
- Plutonius

Least likely:
- Silent Panda
- Moyank24
- QoS

Probability = null of being cylon:
- Twietee

Far-fetched possibility (next to null):
- Don't Panic
 
jav6454 said:
Since QoS has thrown the first stone... and since it can no longer be avoided given that we might be placed in a short deadline. I am now voting for chrmjenkins.

I do believe in Don't Panic's Athena statement, and Twietee kind of killed someone erroneously, so that saves them. Me, well, I'm innocent, so don't count on me.

List of possible Cylons:
- Chrmjenkins
- Rick
- Plutonius

Least likely:
- Silent Panda
- Moyank24
- QoS

Probability = null of being cylon:
- Twietee

Far-fetched possibility (next to null):
- Don't Panic
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jav
 
jav6454 said:
Since QoS has thrown the first stone... and since it can no longer be avoided given that we might be placed in a short deadline. I am now voting for chrmjenkins.

I do believe in Don't Panic's Athena statement, and Twietee kind of killed someone erroneously, so that saves them. Me, well, I'm innocent, so don't count on me.

List of possible Cylons:
- Chrmjenkins
- Rick
- Plutonius

Least likely:
- Silent Panda
- Moyank24
- QoS

Probability = null of being cylon:
- Twietee

Far-fetched possibility (next to null):
- Don't Panic
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Wait, so you believe DP about who he says he is but he's lying about me? I don't even.
 
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