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[WW] Bloodlust GAME OVER - WEREWOLVES WIN

alright, based on the various combinations depicted above, the one that seems to be most present in my derangings is appleguy123.
however, I am open to be swayed in other directions

edit: one reason i am a bit hesitant with willbro is that based on odds alone, he is the only one can only be just the infected wolf, whereas everyone else could be 3 different flavors of baddiness (or two if it turns out the vamps are no more after all).
that said, a wolf is wolf is a wolf :D
 
appleguy123 said:
Changing my vote to willbro, even though Melrose is most likely a Vampire. sigh.
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If you are a villager and you think melrose is the vampire, the correct move is NOT to lynch him. if we do, we end up with 2 WW and 3 villagers, and it's night. One villager gets killed and it's 2-2 at dawn.

the villagers cannot win, and the only chance the villagers have to tie the game, is if the both vote together for one of the WWs, then the game gets deadlocked at 2-2 and nights never comes, if one of the villagers votes for a wolf, ww wins.

actually i am not sure that a 2-2 situation is a tie, because it's not specified in the first post and ravenvii might have mentioned it, but i don't remember. that situation could be seen both as a villager win or a wolf win. anyone knows?.
 

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Willbro... Lately, I've tried to explain my own voting, and have been much more suspicious of people who have no logic behind theirs.

...I think that's our majority?

iBlue said:
Melrose and Mexbearpig also pique my suspicions but it's not overly obvious either way. Melrose often is damned if he does, damned if he doesn't. It's difficult to tell what the hell side he's on.
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Thank you. :) I'm glad I'm not the only one who's noticed this. :(

Don't panic said:
If you are a villager and you think melrose is the vampire, the correct move is NOT to lynch him. if we do, we end up with 2 WW and 3 villagers, and it's night. One villager gets killed and it's 2-2 at dawn.

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I see where you're going, but I'm lost again. I know this is slitting my own throat, but if I'm a Vampire, then wouldn't leaving me alive be bad also? or am I misunderstanding your logic again?
 
Melrose said:
Willbro... Lately, I've tried to explain my own voting, and have been much more suspicious of people who have no logic behind theirs.

...I think that's our majority?



Thank you. :) I'm glad I'm not the only one who's noticed this. :(



I see where you're going, but I'm lost again. I know this is slitting my own throat, but if I'm a Vampire, then wouldn't leaving me alive be bad also? or am I misunderstanding your logic again?
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:D i know it's a bit convoluted (i put the cartoon to try to make it clearer) but i think that if one of the 6 is the vampire (you or anyone else), by killing it now we basically give the village to the WW who likely become unbeatable (see post above). If we keep the vamp alive, we live to fight another day.
obviously the vamp would eventually have to go as well for the villagers to win, but the idea is to have the vamp and the WWs to fight it out.
this is in their interest too, as at this point they are their worst enemies (as it should be in any good werewolf-vamp story).
the villagers can only try to be opportunistic, and to have to do the strategy in the open obviously doesn't help, but it's the only thing we can do.

i hope i didn't confuse you even more. :)

Anyways : Alea jacta est as the ancients said.
now i can only hope that willbro indeed was the infected wolf, or it becomes even more complex (and less likely to pull off).


EDIT: ravenvii, could you please clarify what are the winning conditions for the various parties? i am sure you did before, but i couldn't find it, and obviously it could significantly affect the strategy.
 
Majority reached (4)
willbro: 4 (iBlue, Mexbearpig, appleguy123, melrose)

Now we have to wait till ravenvii posts the narrative. I won't tell you my role, have fun waiting in agony for the results!
EDIT: Ah what the heck, your all going to die.
 
willbro said:
Majority reached (4)
willbro: 4 (iBlue, Mexbearpig, appleguy123, melrose)

Now we have to wait till ravenvii posts the narrative. I won't tell you my role, have fun waiting in agony for the results!
EDIT: Ah what the heck, your all going to die.
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i think in any case is not over yet.
clearly it depends on what was the actual make-up of the six survivors, but even if there was indeed a vamp and two wolves, and you are a villager (worst case scenario, since you can't be the vamp) there is a (very) little chance for the village yet, and obviously both vamp and ww can still win.
 
Winning condition: if it comes down to 2 villagers and 2 werewolves, werewolves win.

As willbro stood on the platform, the noose around his neck, he screamed, "YOU'RE ALL GONNA DIE!" as iBlue, standing in her usual spot, pulled the lever.

"YOU'RE ALL GONNA -- *snap*"

The villagers watched with abated breath, waiting for willbro to turn into something. Anything.

willbro simply swayed from the noose. There was no change.

willbro is a villager. 5 now remain. It is NIGHT - Specials, you know what to do.
 
ouch. :(
sorry bro.

now it's up to the vamp to keep the WWs at bay.

and then we have a final shot at the Ws (well, whoever is still here)


so in any 'tie' case, do the bad guys win? (like 1WW vs 1 villager) what about 2WW, 1Vamp, 1 villager? can the villagers get a tie?

EDIT2: btw, this means that we must have a vamp, otherwise it would be over. another possibility is that there is only one W.
 
Great. :eek: :( Thought we'd had that right. (I'm sorry, willbro.) Now I think the only person left I'm not immediately suspicious of is Don't panic, and I don't even freakin' know if that's a wise thought or not.

I really wish I knew what the hell the baddie score was. What is out there? This bloody town always has a full moon at night and I can't even threaten sunshine, I live in London! I'll stalk up on garlic and silverware. I don't suppose I can interest any of you in some heavily laced cakes? You know, give peace a chance!
 
The sun arose on a dead village.

All the villagers are in their homes, murdered in their sleep.

The only villagers missing from their beds are iBlue, appleguy123 and Melrose. However, in the middle of the town square, is Melrose's vampiric head spiked through by a spear and put up as a warning to all vampires that this is a werewolf-controlled domain.

GAME OVER - WEREWOLVES WIN.

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2) NathanMuir - Sorcerer
6) Melrose - Vampire
7) philbeeney - Alpha Werewolf
10) abijnk - Vampire Hunter
11) chrmjenkins - Goth
12) King Mook Mook - Seer
13) appleguy123 - Kamikaze Werewolf
15) iBlue - Undertaker/Infected Werewolf
17) renewed - Goth
18) mscriv - Werewolf Hunter

DAY ONE:
iBookG4user lynched

NIGHT ONE:
King Mook Mook scans chrmjenkins
iBlue scans iBookG4user
mscriv protects renewed
Melrose scans iBlue
chrmjenkins scans mscriv
renewed scans NathanMuir
Werewolves kill -aggie-

DAY TWO:
chrmjenkins lynched

NIGHT TWO:
King Mook Mook scans Abijnk
iBlue scans -aggie-
mscriv protects stonyc
Melrose scans SilentPanda
renewed scans SilentPanda
Werewolves kill SilentPanda

DAY THREE:
King Mook Mook lynched

NIGHT THREE:
iBlue scans SilentPanda
mscriv protects jav6454
Melrose scans Don't panic
renewed scans appleguy123
Werewolves fails to kill mscriv

DAY FOUR:
NathanMuir resurrects King Mook Mook
jav6454 lynched

NIGHT FOUR:
King Mook Mook scans willbro
iBlue scans jav6454
Philbeeney infects iBlue
mscriv protects iBlue
Melrose scans stonyc
renewed scans abijnk
Werewolves kill mscriv

DAY FIVE:
abijnk fails to insta-kill philbeeney
Rodimus Prime lynched

NIGHT FIVE:
King Mook Mook scans philbeeney
iBlue scans mscriv
Melrose scans Mexbearpig
renewed scans philbeeney
Werewolves kill King Mook Mook

DAY SIX:
philbeeney lynched

NIGHT SIX:
iBlue scans Rodimus Prime
Melrose scans appleguy123
renewed scans ucfgrad93
Werewolves kill Abijnk

DAY SEVEN:
ucfgrad93 lynched

NIGHT SEVEN:
iBlue scans ucfgrad93
Melrose scans renewed
Werewolves kill stonyc

DAY EIGHT:
renewed lynched

NIGHT EIGHT:
iBlue scans stonyc
Vampires kill NathanMuir
Werewolves kill NathanMuir

DAY NINE:
willbro lynched

NIGHT NINE:
iBlue scans NathanMuir
Vampire kill Don't panic
Werewolves kill Don't panic

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I'll post a new thread for discussion for the next game soon. However I am taking a break, so the game won't actually start until sometime in mid-October.
 
Some post game thoughts:

You guys let me take down 2 villagers when you randomly landed on me the first day. First, you let me deflect to iBookG4User with weak logic (which -aggie- pointed out). Second, you let me take out the seer. Whether you choose to view this indirectly (my position caused the seer to out himself), or directly (my suggestion to hang the seer was taken to heart), it's a lesson in how to play as villagers as to who to listen to and for the seer to carefully play his/her role and not out themselves at the smallest revelation.

I saw many people either misinterpret or question the rules. Never do this. Any question as to the rules puts a question mark on your head as your question can be construed as an attempt to confuse the other villagers out of a particular action.

Third, sorry mscriv, but I lavished praise on you in the hopes someone would take you out so my fellow vamps would have a chance. Your introspection the previous game was just a little too good.

Everyone also dropped the suspicion on philbeeney when I pointed out that he was incorrect about my role in previous games. It was if my role as a goth vindicated him, even though there's no way he could have known.
 
My death has been avenged. Well played appleguy123 and iBlue. :D

So, appleguy and iBlue were the original WW's?
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Nope, I was the Alpha werewolf and appleguy123 was the kamikaze werewolf. We infected iBlue because she wanted to be a werewolf. The fact that she was the Undertaker also helped along with a bribe of special Baked Goods which were delicious.
 
philbeeney said:
My death has been avenged. Well played appleguy123 and iBlue. :D



Nope, I was the Alpha werewolf and appleguy123 was the kamikaze werewolf. We infected iBlue because she wanted to be a werewolf. The fact that she was the Undertaker also helped along with a bribe of special Baked Goods which were delicious.
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With iBlue being the undertaker, we had a list of everyone's role. It was quite easy to see that Melrose was a vamp in the end.
So villagers, what's it like to die? :)
 
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