farewell, rick.
although i must admit that my first reaction was: "Yeah! Not me!"
i know. selfish.
in any case, i don't get why would targeting rick in any way 'frame' meister? don't see it at all.
to begin, i will go with Sythas
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[WW] Friend... or foe? : GAME OVER WOLVES WIN
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farewell, rick.
although i must admit that my first reaction was: "Yeah! Not me!"
i know. selfish.
in any case, i don't get why would targeting rick in any way 'frame' meister? don't see it at all.
to begin, i will go with Sythas
farewell, rick.
although i must admit that my first reaction was: "Yeah! Not me!"
i know. selfish.
in any case, i don't get why would targeting rick in any way 'frame' meister? don't see it at all.
to begin, i will go with Sythas
Because of the idea that individuals who are of the lupine persuasion might seek to murder their partners as it is somewhat harder to disguise ambivalent loyalties if one is exchanging frequent PMs with a DNA-linked partner.
In other words, I think it entirely possible that WWs seek to remove their partners. This will make it less challenging to mislead and misdirect the rest of the community, and will make it easier to fake an alibi of a fake partner.
Meister has already had a close shave, and has acknowledged that rick was his partner. I merely offer it as a possibility.
i see what you mean.
not sure i am sold on it, but it is certainly a possibility
Let's apply some Meister logic.
(1) Wolves vote for villagers
(2) I am a villager
(3) Don't Panic and Moyank voted for me twice
Conclusion: Don't Panic and Moyank are the Werwolves
Aristotle would be so proud of you
The word you are looking for is not pride - it's admirationAristotle would be so proud of you
There goes my theory.
She has more than twice as many posts as you do?
She did go after anjinha rather strongly (to put it nicely) but I doubt a ww would have done that. Except if Meister were the fellow ww. Not impossible but doubt it.
I'll go with Moyank for now. Way too silent for being that awesome and only really showing up when called for.
She has more than twice as many posts as you do?
She did go after anjinha rather strongly (to put it nicely
) but I doubt a ww would have done that. Except if Meister were the fellow ww. Not impossible but doubt it.I'll go with Moyank for now. Way too silent for being that awesome and only really showing up when called for.
well doesnt that just suck.
great timing for me though, headed to new orleans tomorrow for a week, then cabo for 3 nights!
GO VILLAGERS!
No, I have not at all flown 'under the radar'. In fact, I have been very visible and rather vocal. (And horribly wrong re Anjinha).
And, indeed, going from my notes, (which I consulted), this appears to have been the second time you have voted for me.
Well, and, just to add to a tired refrain, I am a villager.
Nevertheless, for now, I'll not return the favour, as I think that Meister and indeed, twietee, may be on to something.
The survival of Don't Panic into a third day, especially when no attempt was made to kill him overnight (and the Guard cannot have been that superb in his/her reflexes and powers of anticipation), makes me think there are questions which merit an answer, one of which is to clarify his orientation, as well as that of Moyank.
There goes my theory.
She has more than twice as many posts as you do?
She did go after anjinha rather strongly (to put it nicely
I'll go with Moyank for now. Way too silent for being that awesome and only really showing up when called for.
Well that ruffled some feathers - which in this game, is good.
I meant under the radar as far as being suspected of being a wolf. Are we really going to zero in on the participation thing as wolfie indication? If so, we have even less to work with than previously thought.
I voted for you last round merely so I could force the overtime. It was based on nothing, and could have been any name. Regardless, it's not a personal offense. I voted for ravenvii twice last game, too.
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I am not sold on that theory either (part of the reason for my vote). I know firsthand how easy it is to PM with a wolf partner as a villager and be completely unaware. It's essentially the same kind of spitballing you do in the thread. And of course most people would lie if you ask directly, so.
Perhaps if the identity of the seer as a partner was known. That's a more plausible scenario for that theory for me.
That I agree about, but as far as I can remember ss never really is gathering votes. Like in any game at all unless there is really strong evidence. Which I don't see at the moment.
Participation, and the lack thereof, is always a twilight zone since specials usually try to avoid causing a ruckus when working undercover as wolves do. And then we have a life to lead as well...I may be burned but Tomorrow and ravenvii who had a total post count of about 19 posts (inlcuding the sign in ones) together last game taught me a lesson.
well, i can't say i am surprised you are voting for me, although i am a little taken aback you'd espouse Meister's "logic".
since you ask, and as i have already said before, I am not a wolf (although it does seem to be to be a completely pointless question. i think it is since the 'age of legends' that a wolf hasn't cracked under pressure. yes. it did happen. it might have been rodimus prime, or maybe appleguy. melrose might remeber this. or raven).
i am in a way flattered that you think that the WW would put such a high prize on my head, that no other strategy would be viable, but on the other hand i am a bit disappointed that you follow the predictable path.
there are a number of possible reasons for my apparently untimely survival, not least of which is the fact that I am now the front vote-getter, so why waste a nightkill and risk a hunter's interception.
also i am not sure what you mean about the hunter. the hunter could have protected me or not, i do not know, but the WW clearly did not target me, otherwise i would be dead or we would have had a night without kills.
It's also a really well known tactic, so people not participating tend to get voted out. So, as a wolf, you have to weigh the pros and cons of using an obvious strategy, or bucking it for a more nuanced approach.
We could go the voting off quiet people route, I suppose.
My point about participation is that, in general, specials, (for good reason) and wolves, (for even better reason) tend to lie low, and hope to hide in plain sight.
As the days pass, it becomes increasingly difficult to post prolifically and sustain a duplicitous existence successfully. Moreover, my experience is that most of the time, the most successful wolves are the individuals who post little, thereby attracting little attention to themselves; in other outings, the more loquacious individuals were those who were - in general - targeted.
Re Hunter protection for DP, I don't doubt that it may have happened, but it cannot have happened twice; I am more curious at the fact that there was no attempt on DP's life over two nights, this is almost unprecedented, and merits scrutiny, and certainly, the asking of questions.
Years ago, when the wise old owl, Harold Macmillan (whose family were the publishing company), stepped down as British PM in the early sixties, his successor, an utter nonentity named Sir Alec Douglas-Home asked him for some advice. "Well, old chap" replied Macmillan, with admirable sang-froid, "As long as you don't invade Afghanistan, you should be fine".
While DP may state, with becoming modesty, that he is flattered at the 'high price' on his head, the truth is, most WWs start a game with the ardent desire to identity (and neutralise/kill/infect) the Seer, and neutralise/kill/infect DP………..
As the days pass, it becomes increasingly difficult to post prolifically and sustain a duplicitous existence successfully. Moreover, my experience is that most of the time, the most successful wolves are the individuals who post little, thereby attracting little attention to themselves; in other outings, the more loquacious individuals were those who were - in general - targeted.
Re Hunter protection for DP, I don't doubt that it may have happened, but it cannot have happened twice; I am more curious at the fact that there was no attempt on DP's life over two nights, this is almost unprecedented, and merits scrutiny, and certainly, the asking of questions.
Years ago, when the wise old owl, Harold Macmillan (whose family were the publishing company), stepped down as British PM in the early sixties, his successor, an utter nonentity named Sir Alec Douglas-Home asked him for some advice. "Well, old chap" replied Macmillan, with admirable sang-froid, "As long as you don't invade Afghanistan, you should be fine".
While DP may state, with becoming modesty, that he is flattered at the 'high price' on his head, the truth is, most WWs start a game with the ardent desire to identity (and neutralise/kill/infect) the Seer, and neutralise/kill/infect DP………..
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Nah, way too early. As you did I, and probably everybody else,lol is just rustling some feathers. We have about zero factual info to make an educated guess. At least I can't. Maybe we both just file different things under the term 'under the radar'. Heck, maybe not: But with that approch (not gathering votes, not really suspected but constantly posting) it'd be me, Melrose and Sythas too probably. Isn't that much different.
But whatever, just had a drink too much.
Vamos, Barca!
That's why I tend to post a lot more drivel when I'm playing than when I'm just posting in the plain ol' forums. For either strategy, posting a lot of junk buries anything you have to say if you're naughty and being active makes you less likely to be voted out on threat of
oh, i agree about the fact that it might merit scrutiny (not about the unprecedented bit), but i cannot provide the answer you seek. i can only read the end result, which is I am alive. i can personally imagine several scenarios to justify this, the most obvious (but not only one) being letting you, meister and two more doing the job.
i wouldn't particularly blame you, but i don't have to approve of it
oh, i agree about the fact that it might merit scrutiny (not about the unprecedented bit), but i cannot provide the answer you seek. i can only read the end result, which is I am alive. i can personally imagine several scenarios to justify this, the most obvious (but not only one) being letting you, meister and two more doing the job.
i wouldn't particularly blame you, but i don't have to approve of it
Well, in the absence of facts, it is all I have to go on.
Occam's Razor, and all that.
Certainly - reason being that he usually has excellent analytical skills and is a threat to the wolfie element. On the other hand, there have been a few times when I was a wolf that we specifically discussed letting him live because the village would turn on him if he were kept alive. Especially in a game like this, where there is less to go on in the beginning. They can afford to keep him alive for a few days.
I do tend to agree with an Occam's Razor approach, but these simple games make me second guess everything. For now, it's certainly worthy to note that he's still alive. Sorry DP, but you know it is a great compliment.
Then what answers can you provide?
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PLAYERS:
1. Moyank24
2. Plutonius eaten by wolves - villager
3. twietee
4. Sythas
5. Melrose
6. Meister
7. Tomorrow lynched - villager
8. Queen of Spades
9. anjinha lynched - villager
10. Don't panic
11. Scepticalscribe
12. rick snagwell wolf nibble
Of the remaining players, who can we really say is using the silent tactic? Sythas and Moyank?
Certainly - reason being that he usually has excellent analytical skills and is a threat to the wolfie element. On the other hand, there have been a few times when I was a wolf that we specifically discussed letting him live because the village would turn on him if he were kept alive. Especially in a game like this, where there is less to go on in the beginning. They can afford to keep him alive for a few days.
I do tend to agree with an Occam's Razor approach, but these simple games make me second guess everything. For now, it's certainly worthy to note that he's still alive. Sorry DP, but you know it is a great compliment.
Then what answers can you provide?
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PLAYERS:
1. Moyank24
2. Plutonius eaten by wolves - villager
3. twietee
4. Sythas
5. Melrose
6. Meister
7. Tomorrow lynched - villager
8. Queen of Spades
9. anjinha lynched - villager
10. Don't panic
11. Scepticalscribe
12. rick snagwell wolf nibble
Of the remaining players, who can we really say is using the silent tactic? Sythas and Moyank?
I am thrilled
i can provide an answer to you last question:
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I am thrilled
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I feel like Moyank knows better than to not post when she's a wolf, but I've been wrong about her constantly, so who knows.
I don't even try to read her anymore.
Thing is, she was second runner in Day1 (as Sythas for a long time) so if she'd be a wolf that could gain us some badly needed info. I may repeat myself but Moyank stated that she hated to vote for Tomorrow but decided to rather vote for him instead of Sythas. Who actually disappeared after that event. Not saying this is strong stuff but Day one sure was interesting (still thinking of Meister piling on Tomorrow giving him a 2 vote lead out of the blue, nothing strange in itself, then disappears til after 30mins after the deadline. Confused about it later on etc pp.
Not really trying to make a case here as I know as much as you do but I'd rather go after those for example than ss who went way too hard on anjinha to be a wolf in my opinion.