what ?! Since Plutonius is the swapper, he knows wich person he swapped, so they knows who's the seer now....
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[WW] Knee-Deep in the Dead - WOOF WOOF WEREWOLVES WIN
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Swapper swaps between two named people so Pluto knows who he swapped with unless u think he died so quickly he wasn't able to inform the other wolves of what he did.
Sorry I haven't been around guys, things have been really busy at work. One of my coworkers is on family leave, two more are on PTO...
i agree that it would beneficial at this point to share your new power.
the WW already have that info, since it would make very little sense for them to give the seer power to another villager, where they can effectively neutralize it (and actually use it themselves from now on).
also he just needed to cc the swapping PM to the other wolves to let them know, there is no chance he didn't share that info (even if the target wasn't a wolf)
The WW do not necessarily know what power I received, only from whom I received it.
Also, the power has been spent, so it's a moot point - I don't have any power. The power is (was) the Soother.
I don't trust Sythas, but I do trust you.
the most likely scenario is that the WW swapper (plutonius) would pick you and a wolf for the swap.
the wolf becomes the new seer, and you get the wolf's power (soother, spent).
in this scenario, the wolves would have already known all this beforehand.
Hum not much information, since Koodauw and Intell are both dead. I'm not seing anyone else that could have benefit from the soothing that day...
I'm just saying that if the new seer is a villager (really don't know why), you should step up and tell us who you are, since the wolfs know and could be protected (again still don't know why 
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vote analysis on plutonius is not very informative.
people voted by plutonius:
day 1: don't panic, then tomorrow
day 2: tomorrow, then koodauw
day 3: no-vote
day 3: did not vote
people who voted plutonius:
day 1: none
day 2: none
day 3: don'tpanic (then switched to intell), tomorrow
day 4: tomorrow, scepticalscribe, melrose, don'tpanic, moyank, fenris, comeagain + sythas
all after tomorrow announcing him a wolf
people voted by plutonius:
day 1: don't panic, then tomorrow
day 2: tomorrow, then koodauw
day 3: no-vote
day 3: did not vote
people who voted plutonius:
day 1: none
day 2: none
day 3: don'tpanic (then switched to intell), tomorrow
day 4: tomorrow, scepticalscribe, melrose, don'tpanic, moyank, fenris, comeagain + sythas
all after tomorrow announcing him a wolf
Hm. Interesting.
Delighted we nailed one wolf, or wolk.
Tomorrow, I'm sorry that your power has been stripped from you, you did very well.
Well, there are a number of powers which we know have been used, and - a few others - which we know the WWs may have. As Plutonius's power was not explained in greater detail, I have to assume that both Alpha and Kamikaze are still with us.
While it is entirely possible that none of the powers we were fishing about for the use of are actually in play, it is interesting that the it did not prove possible to use the 'time' altering powers (compression was what I had in mind) or the Morpher powers.
Either, they are not in play, or the WWs have them, or the individuals who have them were not switched on sufficiently to use them at an appropriate time.
Now would also be a good time to think about what we know, and who we might consider as meriting further forensic attention.
Delighted we nailed one wolf, or wolk.
Tomorrow, I'm sorry that your power has been stripped from you, you did very well.
Well, there are a number of powers which we know have been used, and - a few others - which we know the WWs may have. As Plutonius's power was not explained in greater detail, I have to assume that both Alpha and Kamikaze are still with us.
While it is entirely possible that none of the powers we were fishing about for the use of are actually in play, it is interesting that the it did not prove possible to use the 'time' altering powers (compression was what I had in mind) or the Morpher powers.
Either, they are not in play, or the WWs have them, or the individuals who have them were not switched on sufficiently to use them at an appropriate time.
Now would also be a good time to think about what we know, and who we might consider as meriting further forensic attention.
I cannot envisage any situation how or why the Seer might be a villager, given the way things turned out. It is the single most important and powerful power and role that the village have.I'm just saying that if the new seer is a villager (really don't know why), you should step up and tell us who you are, since the wolfs know and could be protected (again still don't know why
Seriously, if you were a wolf, would you consider gifting that to the enemy when you can have it in your own power?
I know, but trying to see it the way Tomorrow saw it. If I was questionning his scans I would understand his reaction. Wich anyway would be good to give the informations at this point to at least clear some villagers, but again that point is useful to both party. I think that any information the villagers have is good (when you know you won't have more), but then we can assume that the information you have SS for the first scan is a simple villager.
this soothing thing is puzzling.
based on what tomorrow said, there was no bluff and the soother was a wolf.
so the ww soother used their power on day 2 on one of the people who voted to lynch intell.
this was done to protect intell, to make sure koodauw died, or for other reasons.
since both intell and koodauw were villagers, a reasons to protect intell would be as a way to create confusion and framing intell by casting him as a possible wolf. if that was the purpose it worked, as we lynched him. this gained the wolves a day (with little voting going on), at the cost of a potentially more useful use of the soothing power.
a reason to kill koodauw would be if he was thought to be of particular importance (e.g. seer, guard), or a threat to the wolves. he had voted for Scepticalscribe on day 1 and day 2, then switched to intell at the very end.
a third possibility would be that the soothing was done on someone who ended up voting for intell, but was initially voting for someone else. as mentioned earlier, there are only 3 such votes: queenofspades and dontpanic, who were voting for ricksnagwell before switching , and Koodauw, who was voting scepticalscribe before switching
the colapser would not have been enough, since it can only reduce by max 10 hours, so the ealiest deadline would have been 3 am (new york time) tonight.
the blocker is the only one i have in mind that could have helped here, but as you said either it is not in played, or it could not be applied in time
what we know of the powers so far.
caveat: almost none of this is a confirmed 'fact', as much is based on self-claims, but most are highly likely
chrmjenkins: hunter (scavenged by rick)
rick snagwell: scavenger, then hunter, power spent in failed attempt at SS's life
intell: amplifier, presumably saved by WW soother
tomorrow: seer, swapped to spent soother
plutonius: WW swapper
scepticalscribe: spy, followed seer (2x) and undertaker, protected by guard on day/night 3
powers likely held by WWs:
swapper (plutonius, normal wolf -could he be the infected?)
soother (no other infos)
infection: no infos could or not be already in play
powers likely not at play, or held by WWs:
oracle, necromancer
one-off power spent:
hunter, soother
caveat: almost none of this is a confirmed 'fact', as much is based on self-claims, but most are highly likely
chrmjenkins: hunter (scavenged by rick)
rick snagwell: scavenger, then hunter, power spent in failed attempt at SS's life
intell: amplifier, presumably saved by WW soother
tomorrow: seer, swapped to spent soother
plutonius: WW swapper
scepticalscribe: spy, followed seer (2x) and undertaker, protected by guard on day/night 3
powers likely held by WWs:
swapper (plutonius, normal wolf -could he be the infected?)
soother (no other infos)
infection: no infos could or not be already in play
powers likely not at play, or held by WWs:
oracle, necromancer
one-off power spent:
hunter, soother
So it could be to save Rick in middle of the day before everyone went to Koodauw and Intell ?
him or SS. it's possible, although not particularly likely. it was early in the day
that's a possibility (not sure if the scan would give you that info or not),
but how would that affect the use of the soother power on intell?
Another once off power that was used was that of the Scavenger.
I confess that I remain surprised that - given that Intell turned out to be a villager - that he chose not to appear or brief people as to what he thought may have happened; this still remains a bit of a mystery, but I recommend that we not waste too much time teasing it out - mysterious though it is - and focus instead on who and what need to be observed.
I also offer - as a suggestion, and returning the compliment, as it were - that rick may have been the infected WW; the only explanation I can really think of for his impetuosity yesterday was a belief that I held one of the Core powers; it was known that I held one of the four information gathering powers and he may have chosen to use the Hunter instakill on the hope that he was taking out the Seer, which would have been a very useful and rewarding use of that power.
In case I get killed tonight, keep an eye on anjinha, and rick.