Are you suggesting rick is wolf scavenger, scavenged hunter and soother acted to protect the wolves new hunter?
Edit - somehow missed your previous post where your saying you think rick was infected.
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[WW] Knee-Deep in the Dead - WOOF WOOF WEREWOLVES WIN
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Edit - somehow missed your previous post where your saying you think rick was infected.
Now, in the light of what has happened, and in the further light of rick's silence today (contrasted with his voluble and pushy posts yesterday) I think it possible that rick was infected.
Moreover, I think then, that the soother power may have been used to protect him, (perhaps used on either DP or QoS), as he was beginning to amass votes, (and, as the Hunter power he had acquired while scavenging as a scavenger was valuable) and that he tried to take me out with a peppering of grapeshot under the impression that I was the Seer, or, at the very least, knowing that I was an Information Gatherer.
Initially, I had assumed that his shot at me it was just bloody-mindedness, but I no longer think that.
The scan told me he was a werewolf - no mention of alpha or kamikaze. So that's how I'm leaning.
As for whether the soother power was used on Intell - I don't know, tbh. I just know the power has been used, and SOMEthing saved Intell.
i was asking because you put it (plutonius possibly being infected) as a 4th option of a post where i was discussing 3 possibilities regarding intell's escape.
also you mentioned that intell could have used his Amplifier power to escape. do you still think that is possible? how?
No.
But the Undertaker might, should that personage choose to scan QoS and then manage to live long enough to be able tell the tale.
Ah. Thanks. A lot of activity occurred while I was away. Sorry for not voting.
Now that the wolves have the Seer's powers, this will make them very, very powerful. They also have the kamikaze power, too.
I think we can expect to see a number of people, who have hitherto distinguished themselves by their invisibility, emerging from under their cosy rocks and pleading busy lives, while taking a much more proactive role in trying to steer discussions - and indeed - lynchings, secure in the knowledge that it will be very difficult to disprove them.
Beware of someone who has inexplicably become too loquacious; bear in mind that such a person can no longer be proven a wolk, or wolf, by the Seer, and that this will greatly increase the wolves' confidence.
It really is time that some of the village became a bit more proactive and started using their powers for the collective good, rather than for the purpose of saving their own individual skin.
I think we can expect to see a number of people, who have hitherto distinguished themselves by their invisibility, emerging from under their cosy rocks and pleading busy lives, while taking a much more proactive role in trying to steer discussions - and indeed - lynchings, secure in the knowledge that it will be very difficult to disprove them.
Beware of someone who has inexplicably become too loquacious; bear in mind that such a person can no longer be proven a wolk, or wolf, by the Seer, and that this will greatly increase the wolves' confidence.
It really is time that some of the village became a bit more proactive and started using their powers for the collective good, rather than for the purpose of saving their own individual skin.
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yep, this has suddenly become a much harder game to win
most of the possible best village powers are gone or not available to the village: seer, oracle, necromancer, hunter, scavenger, amplifier, swapper. plus the leech -if in play- has likely been used already
of the remaining the most useful would be the spy+seeker and the executioner, plus the guard, of course.
the rest can be good in some circumstances, but are more likely to have a limited impact
on the other hand the ww likely have two more powers to use (plus kami) and their possibilities include much better ones (for them), including the 4 ww exclusives (if pluto was the infected) and the necromancer.
most of the possible best village powers are gone or not available to the village: seer, oracle, necromancer, hunter, scavenger, amplifier, swapper. plus the leech -if in play- has likely been used already
of the remaining the most useful would be the spy+seeker and the executioner, plus the guard, of course.
the rest can be good in some circumstances, but are more likely to have a limited impact
on the other hand the ww likely have two more powers to use (plus kami) and their possibilities include much better ones (for them), including the 4 ww exclusives (if pluto was the infected) and the necromancer.
For obvious reasons, I am grateful to the Guard.
Having said that, I may well be wolf nibble before morning.
Nevertheless, it is time to do some serious thinking; six villagers dead (in any normal game, that would be a WW victory by now) to one wolf identified and captured, and several of the village key roles either used, captured or neutralised. Not terribly promising.
Meanwhile, I suggest that you take a look at Moyank, anjinha, and rick among others.
Having said that, I may well be wolf nibble before morning.
Nevertheless, it is time to do some serious thinking; six villagers dead (in any normal game, that would be a WW victory by now) to one wolf identified and captured, and several of the village key roles either used, captured or neutralised. Not terribly promising.
Meanwhile, I suggest that you take a look at Moyank, anjinha, and rick among others.
So, basically everybody?
No.
The village lost the last game firstly because the WWs played brilliantly, and took their chances, and the village made every mistake possible and played the worst game I have ever seen.
Here and now, I think a lot of people are coasting, and I think others have been hiding conveniently under that, or using that to their advantage.
I think it is time for individuals in the village to step forward and pull their weight, - see how whatever powers they have been gifted with might be usefully employed in the interest of the village - and try to put forward a few intelligent thoughts. We are not quite as ignorant as we were 24 hours ago.
Too many have been missing for the best part of the past week; you can't be equally busy with personal and professional stuff every day and night.
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Not to sound like a broken record but I've been saying that since Day One. Players that play the 'I'm Busy' card almost universally have something to hide. At least a couple players - not counting the late Queen of Spades - have only really popped up in the last few game hours.
this game is very hard to read, with little to no voting infos.
nobody is fully cleared
i have tomorrow and rick at a less-suspicious level than average
and comeagain and anjinha at a bit more, with others variously in between
nobody is fully cleared
i have tomorrow and rick at a less-suspicious level than average
and comeagain and anjinha at a bit more, with others variously in between
Agreed. This is why I have been saying that some of the quieter ones should be called out and made to explain themselves.
And watch some of them then become extraordinarily loquacious - personally, I'd view that as meriting some slight warning sign (cue: Flashing red sign…).
Beg to differ a bit DP. Nobody is 'fully cleared' but some are a lot less suspicious than others.
I am not guilty, and neither is Tomorrow. Moreover, I don't get a whiff of lupine intent from Melrose; and you don't strike me as guilty, though I could be wrong.
While I suspect Moyank, anjinha and Comeagain?, there are others - in essence, anyone who is - or has been - quiet - who merits scrutiny.
And I don't buy rick's innocence. Either he was the infected, or WW No 3; to my mind, it is looking increasingly unlikely that his pot shot yesterday was the result of an irascible outburst - I think he hoped to take out the Seer, and failed - on both counts.
What about ravenvii?
Half those who signed up - the ones still alive, that is - didn't even bother voting on Monday; that is not good enough.
@Scepticalscribe I'm kind of with DP with regard rick. If anyone other than rick did that, I would suspect them more, but that's just what he does. He felt like nobody was listening to him and took matters into his own hands.
He wouldn't be the first villager to spear (or attempt to spear) an innocent and he won't be the last.
He wouldn't be the first villager to spear (or attempt to spear) an innocent and he won't be the last.
...and the fact that you're still alive brings it's own conclusions. I jest I jest.
You're suspicious of Tomorrow - to which my question is, from a purely academic viewpoint, what's the Feasibility Study on his actually being a Werewolf? EDIT just saw Sceptical's post #654 verifying the info. nvrmnd.
Rick, well, he's a loose cannon. As Sceptical has noted, his utter silence all day is disconcerting but I'm not sure it entirely indicates anything other than textbook Loose Cannon. If he's a wolf he's certainly drawn himself enough 100% avoidable attention.
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yes there are different degrees, but no clearcut answer.
tomorrow is most likely not a wolf. plus he kind of defended me, so i would have extra reasons to trust him.
but he is not 100% 'not a wolf' as he could be infected and/or playing a complex game.
similarly, rick could possibly be a wolf but -from my perspective- he more likely is not because of the timing and opportunity of the hunter shot as i already explained before (basically, it was emotional, not calculated; if he was a wolf and sure of you being a seer, it would have been smarter to kill you with the regular WW kill -since it was that time of the day- and save the insta-kill for more urgent times, or use the kill earlier, plus he didn't have to tell us it was him who took the shot), other occurrences go in the opposite direction with my view of him, but while you may be right and i might be wrong, as of now he is not one of those who i would vote first.
you claim you are not a wolf, and this might be obvious to yourself, but it is not necessarily so from a third person perspective. like with rick, there are pointers in both direction. you are not one of my top suspects, but you most certainly are not 'proven' to be innocent.
fenris and sythas don't seem particularly suspicious to me (in fact sythas was my other candidate for seer) but again, it doesn't mean they are not at all.
moyank, melrose and techgod have played a guarded, low-information game. they could go either way.
ravenvii said -i think on thursday- he was going to be completely off the grid until monday, and he was, without any post in that timeframe (i think).
that may have been a ruse, or not, i do not know, but by itself it is not proof of anything
earlier on pluto was high on my list together with anjinha and comeagain, and the two of them still are up there, especially comeagain. but this doesn't mean they are necessarily WWs
I scanned Plutonius the night right before I announced he was a WW - or, more easily said, I announced that he was a WW as soon as the morning after I found out.
The other person I scanned was you, which is why I defended you. I will not reveal your role publicly unless you want me to.
Thanks tomorrow,
That is what i thought based on your posts.
I see no need to reveal my role atm, as i don't think it would help the village in the short run. Also if anyone else claims it you know they are lying since the swap was used and i doubt the leech would wait 5 days to get a power