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I switch my vote to Plutonius.

My reasons:
- he voted for philbeeney, but once he posted Plutonius changed his vote to MBP within an hour or two.
- once MBP posted his explanation for being less vocal, Plutonius did not change his vote in the same manner as above
- the next logical person to have voted for according to his promise before the game would have been renewed...

Couple possible reasons for this that I can think of:
- I voted for renewed, thus fulfilling Plutonius' promise for him (which worked by the way)... fair enough.
- he saw that momentum had begun to build against MBP and decided to stick with his vote for MBP... but why?


I saw a large difference between the two. Philbeeney responded to my narrative with a somewhat thought out reply :). This indicated to me that even if he will not originate many post, he will at least respond in a thoughtful way. Mexbearpig still refuses to respond to my other narrative even though I posted some one line replies that he could use. The only responses he had were the generic "I'm a villager" responses. To me, it looks like he still will not post anything unless he's in danger of being lynched. If he had responded to my narratives or at least looked like he was going to try taking a more active role, I would have at the very least withdrawn my vote.

As far as Renewed, he was the only one that had not responded so I thought he might be the priest. As "Don't Panic" stated, one of the other players could be the priest and not want to announce it. I still thought it more likely that Renewed was the priest and that he didn't look at the game yet.
 
Figured I would point this out but you saying something like that in the simple game is what got you killed. We figured it it meant you were the hunter and removing the hunter means it was easier to kill everyone else.

I'm only a newbie and even I figured out he was probably the hunter (along with most of the other players) :) .
 
I saw a large difference between the two. Philbeeney responded to my narrative with a somewhat thought out reply :). This indicated to me that even if he will not originate many post, he will at least respond in a thoughtful way. Mexbearpig still refuses to respond to my other narrative even though I posted some one line replies that he could use. The only responses he had were the generic "I'm a villager" responses. To me, it looks like he still will not post anything unless he's in danger of being lynched. If he had responded to my narratives or at least looked like he was going to try taking a more active role, I would have at the very least withdrawn my vote.

As far as Renewed, he was the only one that had not responded so I thought he might be the priest. As "Don't Panic" stated, one of the other players could be the priest and not want to announce it. I still thought it more likely that Renewed was the priest and that he didn't look at the game yet.
I don't necessarily disagree with your assessment re:Mexbearpig. But not everyone approaches this game in the same way... I just thought it odd that you promised to target inactive players, and when the next most inactive player became available (renewed), you didn't move on to him like you did to Mexbearpig. And the cascade of votes that followed your own piqued my interest.

You may be correct that Mexbearpig is trying to hide something.

But if you are not, that could presumably mean that we have a WW (singular, because I think the savvy WW would split their votes if at all possible in the first round) voting against MBP right now... might be a good place to start for the Priest's question next round, perhaps.
 
I don't necessarily disagree with your assessment re:Mexbearpig. But not everyone approaches this game in the same way... I just thought it odd that you promised to target inactive players, and when the next most inactive player became available (renewed), you didn't move on to him like you did to Mexbearpig. And the cascade of votes that followed your own piqued my interest.

You may be correct that Mexbearpig is trying to hide something.

But if you are not, that could presumably mean that we have a WW (singular, because I think the savvy WW would split their votes if at all possible in the first round) voting against MBP right now... might be a good place to start for the Priest's question next round, perhaps.

I don't believe anyone is voting to lynch Mexbearpig because they are pretty sure he's a baddie. People are voting for him because, in the event Mexbearpig is a villager, it's better to lynch an inactive villager.
 
Ok so the closing votes stand at:


Mexbearpig: 8 (plutonius, philbeeney, nathan, melkorr, appleguy, rodimus, ravenvii, reneweed)

renewed: 2 (don't panic, mexbearpig)

Plutonius: 2 (melrose, stonyC)

Appleguy123: 2 (moyank, iBlue)

melkorr: 1 (cBoss)

ravenvii: 1 (JimN)

Meaning Mexbearpig will get lynched in 5 minutes. (what it will take me to right up the closing)
 
As the sun rose to its maximum height, the villagers debated on who should be lynched. Although the sun was up high, the wind chill had not gone away. People still needed a nice coat to go outside and keep their warmth.

The Executioner, busy man that he is, worked on erecting a new building while the villagers debated and deliberated. A structure started to appear. It resembled that of an elevated platformed that had a pole and hanging rope from said pole. Yet, it was still missing something, rather, someone.

The day started to come to a close. The sun was setting round the hour of 4PM. Shops started closing and iBlue handed out some remaining pastries shaped into phallic forms. Much rejoice was had that hour. However, all was still not well.

renewed came on and said, "Hear me my brothers! This day is about end. Are we going to all stand here and not kill the wolf that has come to haunt us?" Villagers looked at each other in accordance. This could not be prolonged further. The sky was now showing its last rays of sun. Orange, yellow, gray and other pigments of blue are now seen signaling the day's end. What little warmth the sun had given the villagers was now being faded away by the now much colder dusk winds. Stars could be seen starting to twinkle.

Finally Plutonius said, "Ok, so by such majority we find you Mexbearpig, to be the first one to be found guilty of treason against our village." However, as these words were spoken, Mexbearpig's face turned white from scare and horror. "Please no! I am not the wolf! NathanMuir! NathanMuir! Please bro! You know me since a kid! Don't let them do this!" screamed Mexbearpig. However, as NathanMuir held himself deaf to Mexbearpig's pleas, Mexbearpig became calm and assertive. He no longer feared the gallows. Instead, he straightened himself up as the Executioner was about to escort him to sure death.

NathanMuir was oblivious to Mexbearpig's pleas and screams. "Sorry bro, I can't be the one saving you. Plea your case to the gods or to the Executioner" -aggie- said under his breath, "Well, so much for close friends; freaking village." However, this was still over heard by NathanMuir, "What did you say?" "You heard me! You two bit wannabe salesman!" snarked -aggie- in response. "Mexbearpig is my best friend, yet I can't help it or I am the one to take the hit! I must protect myself, and my friend. Yet I fear, I have nothing to back him up with; unless I am the one to die for him my arms are tied." All this bickering did nothing to prevent the lynching. The Executioner, under his black wool hood approached now further calm Mexbearpig who now even walked towards the Executioner as if accepting his defeat and thus having logically reasoned there was no way out.

Grabbing him by force, the Executioner under orders, took Mexbearpig to the newly built gallows. He placed the rope around Mexbearpig's neck. Mexbearpig looked at his death giver. A 250lb, 6'08" man who had a toned body for the job at hand. He wore not only the black hood, but also huge axe which could kill a man in an instant swoop. The dusk had ended, only a few lines of orange could be seen in the horizon and the now rising moon started to appear.


The Executioner said, "Good bye mate, nice knowing your". He pulled the trigger to the false door. Mexbearpig pulled by gravity fell. The rope tied and gripped around his neck and Mexbearpig began to shake.

The night had fallen by this time and the moon was now in full view of the village and of Mexbearpig. Even under the strain of death's grip, he could see the moon.

Suddenly, if by an act of the gods themselves, Mexbearpig started to change. His body started to grow. His teeth grew into fangs. His eyes, which were green as emeralds, turned into red rubies. Fur started to grow around his body. Roars and howls were heard from him. Looking at the moon had given this villager, now turned wolf, new strength to escape death's grip.

The villagers saw in awe what was happening. He let out a loud howl. "He is going to attack!" screamed the village coward ravenvii who ran hastily into his house. However, before now changing Mexbearpig could break free, the Executioner in one swipe slashed Mexbearpig down vertically in half with the axe. "Not here you don't, not today" puffed the now heroic looking Executioner. The village was now into the night and victorious the villagers went each to their homes. However, new dangers now haunt this village.



Mexbearpig was a Werewolf. 18 players remain. It is now Night 2. All specials have 18 hours to send in their PMs. Deadline is 6:30AM Thursday Central time. Because it is so dam early in the morning, I will check time stamps for special PMs, but the next narrative won't be posted until I wake up :p. Sometime at 8 or 9 AM Central before Probabilistic test.
 
Holy crap!!!!!

EDIT: I think it's safe to assume that MBP was the Alpha Werewolf... which means he has infected someone (or at least tried to).
 
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I am going to do a massive happy dance for getting a wolf on the first day with out priest help. Woo hoo.
 
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Rodimus Prime said:
I am going to do a massive happy dance for getting a wolf on the first day with out priest help. Woo hoo.

I second that! Nicely done.
 
Wow!!! I really can't believe it. He should have at least done a better job defending himself.
I think that we should look at people who voted for MBP, and then switched their votes as he started to gain a majority. Especially look out for half-baked cases accompanied by a vote change.
 
I am going to do a massive happy dance for getting a wolf on the first day with out priest help. Woo hoo.

We don' need no stinkin' priest.

Seriously though, 2 games in a row, werewolf on day 1? That's crazy. As for the priest, we lost one werewolf, but likely gained another and/or gained a vamp. So the list should still stay at 3-4 people if we're wanting to clear people.
 
We don' need no stinkin' priest.

Seriously though, 2 games in a row, werewolf on day 1? That's crazy. As for the priest, we lost one werewolf, but likely gained another and/or gained a vamp. So the list should still stay at 3-4 people if we're wanting to clear people.
Should we assume that someone was infected? He may not have even known that he would have a majority before it was too late.
 
Wow!!! I really can't believe it. He should have at least done a better job defending himself.
I think that we should look at people who voted for MBP, and then switched their votes as he started to gain a majority. Especially look out for half-baked cases accompanied by a vote change.
Or, we could look at some of the people who changed their (vote) TO Mexbearpig once it became semi-obvious that he was going to get lynched. Let's not forget that as a plausible scenario.
 
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Should we assume that someone was infected? He may not have even known that he would have a majority before it was too late.

Unless it failed, yes. He was posting while he was getting votes, so he had plenty of time to fire off an infection PM during that.

It's also nice to not have to worry about the infection as an end-game gotcha, unless the vamp lies in wait.
 
Didn't see that coming and not sure why he didn't say anything, he could have saved himself. Am feeling like an idiot now for defending him, would ask the seer to scan me as I'm sure I'll be up for lynching tomorrow now and I damned if I'm getting booted out of another of these games early.

If he has been active elsewhere it's safe to say he's infected someone, the question of course is who.
 
most definitively we should assume there are two more wolves now.
In a way, it is like if we lynched a villager and the alpha lost the infection weapon. a huge bonus for the village.

the chances that the infection failed are not that high but still significant (if aggie passes me the term ;)), because the hunter haven't protected anyone yet and for sure there is still only one vamp, so the infection could only fail if the priest, the vamp or one of the two head hunter was attacked (3/18=16.7% fail rate). and if the apprentice was attacked, he/she lost his/her one immunity.

EDIT: the other side of the coin is that now except for the hunters and the priest, being able to 'prove' that you are a good special, doesn't guarantee you are not a baddie.
worst case scenario is if mex got lucky and infected the seer.

EDIT2: corrected the statement above to reflect the apprentice's lack of immunity
 
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most definitively we should assume there are two more wolves now.
In a way, it is like if we lynched a villager and the alpha lost the infection weapon. a huge bonus for the village.

the chances that the infection failed are not that high, because the hunter haven't protected anyone yet and for sure there is still only one vamp, so the infection could only fail if the priest, the vamp or one of the two hunters were attacked (4/18=22% fail rate). and if the apprentice was attacked, he/she lost his/her one immunity.

Remember, the Apprentice has no immunity whatsoever to attacks or infections. The OP clearly reflects this.


Google cache of the OP before today's edits
 
This was the order of the people who voted for Mexbearpig:

Plutonius.210
philbeeney.226
NathanMuir.232
Melkorr.255
Appleguy123.256 (changed from iBlue.188)
Rodimus Prime.274 (changed from Plutonius.213)
ravenvii.275 (changed from renewed.246)
renewed.288

No one changed from Mexbearpig to someone else in the game. So no obvious help there.

These were the people who did not vote for Mexbearpig:
jimN
Melrose
Don't panic
chrmjenkins (null vote)
stonyc
-aggie- (null vote)
mscriv (null vote)
CBoss
iBlue
Moyank24

I've learned from the past that one can die at any time, so this is what I think in case I do die...

I think Plutonious, philbeeney, NathanMuir, and Melkorr can be thrown out as WW candidates for now. Voting against another WW to throw us off that early would be too risky, especially when things could swing relatively easily. Is it possible that one could have been infected after MBP's death was certain? Maybe... but I'll throw them out for the purposes of this post.

I'm not sure what to think about appleguy123, but he's somewhat in a gray area and I'm willing to cut him some slack at this time. Especially since MBP's fate was still up in the air... wouldn't make much sense if he were a WW to make it that much easier to kill another WW, I don't think.

Rodimus changed his vote from Plutonius to Mexbearpig. I find this somewhat interesting because he was actually the first to vote against Plutonius (#213)... possibly to counteract the initial vote from Plutonius against MBP?

Ravenvii, I don't have a good read on... he's been very erratic, but he did change his vote to MBP within 11 minutes of Rodimus changing his own vote to MBP. Is it possible that Rodimus is the Kamikaze, and Ravenvii is the infected WW? Probably a low likelihood to have both remaining WWs vote for the doomed Alpha... but can't ignore the possibility.

renewed. He kind of came in at the last minute, but he wasn't active before so may have to give him the benefit of the doubt. As a WW, he could have tried to sneak in at the last minute to join the crowd though.

Looking at just this pool of candidates, I'd have to say my suspicion goes something like this: Rodimus > Ravenvii > renewed > appleguy123

But I think it's probably more likely that the remaining Kamikaze and infected WW (if successful) split their votes. They don't want to be seen voting in a bloc, especially this early in the game... so that's why I included the list of people who didn't vote for MBP above, as well. I'm not sure where these people rank in my suspicion list, but something to keep in mind.
 
I think that it might be likely that the alpha infected Ravenvii asap. He somewhat popular around here. ;):eek:
It also make ssense with what was said above.
BTW, It's only night 1


Maybe mexbearpig had a special time travel ability where he forwarded the game to night 2 where everything else is exactly the same. I'm currently formulating a contingency plan for this occurrence. I'm going to need more toilet paper, Q-tips, and enema kits.
 
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