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[WW] MRVille VIII: Something has Survived... GAME OVER, Vampires win!

At the risk of being called a WW, I think that our new vampire laws make a fascinating case for the prayer to focus exclusively on finding the vampire. The seer can and often does find WW's in the game, but is now crippled from finding the vamp. By asking in which half of the list the vampire is, we gain a lot of knowledge, because the vampire is usually activated late in the game, and that half of the list will, presumably, be easy to locate the vampire in.
Seer, feel free to scan me to determine my innocence. :)
Thoughts?
 
appleguy123 said:
At the risk of being called a WW, I think that our new vampire laws make a fascinating case for the prayer to focus exclusively on finding the vampire. The seer can and often does find WW's in the game, but is now crippled from finding the vamp. By asking in which half of the list the vampire is, we gain a lot of knowledge, because the vampire is usually activated late in the game, and that half of the list will, presumably, be easy to locate the vampire in.
Seer, feel free to scan me to determine my innocence. :)
Thoughts?
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that was in the old format on the vamp. Remember the vamp has around 50/50 shot of turning someone on any given night.
 
Yeah, what he said.

While the vamps will activate much quicker, it won't be for another day or two at the least, so for now it's the wolves we should focus on.

But realistically, what difference does that make? The Priest won't show him/herself, so we just have to randomly pick some schmuck to lynch.

And picking Mr. "I don't post because it's a strategy" here is as good a reason as any.
 
Rodimus Prime said:
Well in the last one they activated on night 2. Remember night 3 the attack was recalled.
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By that time 5 were dead. If we asked the prayer where the vampire was, and 4( as we would look to that list for our lynch candidates) were on our list, we have 6 to look through, instead of 14. 5 if the infectee is also in the half.
Now, lets imagine that 2 of the SS are on that list (50/50 chance unless I am mistaken). That would leave only 2 candidates for the SS. They would block vote on one, and the original vamp is dead no matter what in 2 days.
 
appleguy123 said:
By that time 5 were dead. If we asked the prayer where the vampire was, and 4( as we would look to that list for our lynch candidates) were on our list, we have 6 to look through, instead of 14. 5 if the infectee is also in the half.
Now, lets imagine that 2 of the SS are on that list (50/50 chance unless I am mistaken). That would leave only 2 candidates for the SS. They would block vote on one, and the original vamp is dead no matter what in 2 days.
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It's kind of moot unless the Priest shows himself. Or can he ask the question without revealing himself?
 
well I think the preist laying low a few days is fine. It means that the WW have one more target they can waste attacking or trying to infect.
 
Rodimus Prime said:
well I think the preist laying low a few days is fine. It means that the WW have one more target they can waste attacking or trying to infect.
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It's also villagers unnecessarily lynched w/o evidence. It looks like MBP will be lynched this morning, but we have no evidence. Just that he doesn't post a lot. I have a hunch about iBlue, but it didn't look like the voters wanted to go that way.
 
Alright guys, sorry for this change but, voting closes at 9:30 AM central. Reason for the early close is that the Engineering department moved over my Controls test to 10:30 from 11:30 originally planned. So I have to close up an hour before.

However, if you all want I can close as soon as I exit from that test; which should be at or around 12:30PM Central.

I'll check later at 8:00AM central to see what you guys decide. Again sorry for the late notice.
 
Rodimus Prime said:
well I think the preist laying low a few days is fine. It means that the WW have one more target they can waste attacking or trying to infect.
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I prefer that the priest comes out on day 1 and does the prayer so we have at least something to work with.
Day 1 random voting almost assures a villager is lynched helping the WW/vamp cause.
 
appleguy123 said:
At the risk of being called a WW, I think that our new vampire laws make a fascinating case for the prayer to focus exclusively on finding the vampire. The seer can and often does find WW's in the game, but is now crippled from finding the vamp. By asking in which half of the list the vampire is, we gain a lot of knowledge, because the vampire is usually activated late in the game, and that half of the list will, presumably, be easy to locate the vampire in.
Seer, feel free to scan me to determine my innocence. :)
Thoughts?
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Focusing on the one or possible two baddies with weaker abilities instead of the possible 3 that are much worse? This makes me think you are a werewolf (or even more likely a vampire double-bluffing because of the new vamp scan rule) trying to redirect guilt from yourself, as does your gunning for me for no reason whatsoever. You seem to think you are some sort of prophet in these games but you were wrong about me before and you are again. I'd be happy for a Seer to scan me as well.

Though I think Mexbearpig is going, (and because of his typical quietness it's just difficult to know with him) I am voting for you because of all this. appleguy123
 
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jav6454 said:
Alright guys, sorry for this change but, voting closes at 9:30 AM central. Reason for the early close is that the Engineering department moved over my Controls test to 10:30 from 11:30 originally planned. So I have to close up an hour before.

However, if you all want I can close as soon as I exit from that test; which should be at or around 12:30PM Central.

I'll check later at 8:00AM central to see what you guys decide. Again sorry for the late notice.
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9:30 is fine with me. Unless something dramatic happens overnight, I can't find much of a reason to change my vote.
 
iBlue said:
This makes me think you are a werewolf (or a vampire double-bluffing because of the new vamp scan rule) trying to redirect some attention off yourself, as does your gunning for me for no reason whatsoever. You seem to think you are some sort of prophet in these games but you were wrong about be before and you are again. I'd be happy for a Seer to scan me as well.

Though I think Mex is going, I am voting for you because of all this. appleguy123
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Couldn't agree more. He got lucky with the vote for stonyc last game, but after that it was a bucketful of wrong.

Too much effort trying to direct the priest's question towards vampires..when it's moot unless the Priest shows himself.
 
Moyank24 said:
Couldn't agree more. He got lucky with the vote for stonyc last game, but after that it was a bucketful of wrong.

Too much effort trying to direct the priest's question towards vampires..when it's moot unless the Priest shows himself.
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You quoted me before my edit where I added a couple more points as they occurred to me. Ooops! Something is off there with him, even if it is only his self-purported awesome hunches. I know my own role (or non-role, for ambiguity's sake) so when someone goes on about a hunch about me, especially so early in the game, it makes me suspicious.
 
The quietness of mexbearpig and the failure of the priest to appear may be a coincidence but it would be a shame to vote our priest off and completely shoot ourselves in the foot.

People should seriously consider the possibility that MBP is the priest and not lynch him for that reason. Admittedly an inactive priest is no better but if he does finally turn up he can at least make himself useful. The only way the priest can be killed at this stage is by lynching.

If Mexbearpig isn't the priest then whoever is is happily posting away in the room and being utterly useless; but we'll be forced to welcome them with open arms tomorrow as they have something that we need and the knowledge that they are untouchable for 3 nights!
 
jimN said:
The quietness of mexbearpig and the failure of the priest to appear may be a coincidence but it would be a shame to vote our priest off and completely shoot ourselves in the foot.

People should seriously consider the possibility that MBP is the priest and not lynch him for that reason. Admittedly an inactive priest is no better but if he does finally turn up he can at least make himself useful. The only way the priest can be killed at this stage is by lynching.

If Mexbearpig isn't the priest then whoever is is happily posting away in the room and being utterly useless; but we'll be forced to welcome them with open arms tomorrow as they have something that we need and the knowledge that they are untouchable for 3 nights!
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I think if MBP were the Priest, he would have outed himself by now. He would have nothing to lose by coming out as the Priest, and everything to gain (avoid being lynched, most immediately).

I thank renewed for posting and hereby retract my vote for him (I will strikethough my previous vote for him asap).

I switch my vote to Plutonius.

My reasons:
- he voted for philbeeney, but once he posted Plutonius changed his vote to MBP within an hour or two.
- once MBP posted his explanation for being less vocal, Plutonius did not change his vote in the same manner as above
- the next logical person to have voted for according to his promise before the game would have been renewed...

Couple possible reasons for this that I can think of:
- I voted for renewed, thus fulfilling Plutonius' promise for him (which worked by the way)... fair enough.
- he saw that momentum had begun to build against MBP and decided to stick with his vote for MBP... but why?
 
morning everyone

many changes in day one, ravenvii is trying to compensate for the boring eons spent in the clouds by trying to set the new record in votes per turn (btw, you are still just tied with 4 right now), while appleguy managed to once again keep alive his streak of changing his vote at least one in every round by jumping on the mexican zoo bandwagon. He's gotta work on his ladies' appeal though, since he got 100% of their votes

Not to be one-upped when it comes to traditional values, mscriv is again refraining from commitment. i think he needs counseling.
in other non-breaking news, chrmjenkins and aggie study quietly everybody's moves from the sidelines, ready to pull their strings when necessary.

Meanwhile, the priest keeps busy in priestly matters and can't bothered to be mingled with the current paesantries.

at the end it seems that mexbearpig has obtained an almost insurmountable lead for the first lap.
he got a rough deal as he clearly is not anymore the 'quietest' one (cboss and phil share the honor), but the late surge in posting doesn't seem to be enough to satisfy the eager neck-snapping crowd.
on the positive side, it seems like he unlikely is a 'good special', so this leaves us with him being a wolf, a vamp or a potential vamp.

on this happysomber note, here are the standings as the we are quickly approaching gallows time:

mexbearpig: 8 (plutonius, philbeeney, nathan, melkorr, appleguy, rodimus, ravenvii, reneweed)
renewed: 2 (don't panic, mexbearpig)
plutonius: 2 (melrose, stonyC)
appleguy: 2 (moyank, iBlue)
melkorr: 1 (cBoss)
ravenvii: 1 (JimN)

didn't vote: mscriv, aggie, chrmjenkins
 
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Don't panic said:
he got a rough deal as he clearly is not any more the 'quietest' one (cboss and phil share the honor)
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I'm not one of those people who talks or posts a lot. I like to sit on the sidelines and observe what is going on before making my move.

Sort of like Rodin's Thinker, but a more modern version. :D
 
iBlue said:
Focusing on the one or possible two baddies with weaker abilities instead of the possible 3 that are much worse? This makes me think you are a werewolf (or even more likely a vampire double-bluffing because of the new vamp scan rule) trying to redirect guilt from yourself, as does your gunning for me for no reason whatsoever. You seem to think you are some sort of prophet in these games but you were wrong about me before and you are again. I'd be happy for a Seer to scan me as well.

Though I think Mexbearpig is going, (and because of his typical quietness it's just difficult to know with him) I am voting for you because of all this. appleguy123
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Did I ever suspect you in general? I might have, but I onl remember saying that the werewolf was probably in the uk.
If I were a vampire, I would not even mention vampires until they were activated to stay under the radar.
As I said in the simple game. I am a good villager and have a rather nice role. It would be a waste to lynch me.
I would be lying if I said that I had hard evidence against you, but you, at the moment fit the most points in my Wolf checklist.
 
appleguy123 said:
Did I ever suspect you in general? I might have, but I onl remember saying that the werewolf was probably in the uk.
If I were a vampire, I would not even mention vampires until they were activated to stay under the radar.
As I said in the simple game. I am a good villager and have a rather nice role. It would be a waste to lynch me.
I would be lying if I said that I had hard evidence against you, but you, at the moment fit the most points in my Wolf checklist.
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Figured I would point this out but you saying something like that in the simple game is what got you killed. We figured it it meant you were the hunter and removing the hunter means it was easier to kill everyone else.
 
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