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[WW] MRVille VIII: Something has Survived... GAME OVER, Vampires win!

i don't fully agree with your analysis, stonyC.

i concur that the initial votes are unlikely from the kamikaze, because there is no need to make the other wolf a viable candidate, just throw the votes somewhere random (but also consider that the very early votes where placeholders as everyone was expecting the priest to come out).

at one point we had mex 3, plut 3 and renewed 1.
then i voted for renewed who hadn't posted at all yet: M3, P3, R2
then ravenvii voted for renewed as well: M3, P3, R3
very fluid situation at this point (also anyone with one vote could have easily become a viable candidate for lynching.

then:
melkorr voted for mex: M4,P3,R3
appleguy voted for mex: M5, P3, R3
mex switched from plut to renewed: M5, P2, R4

result still open, with renewed becoming the second most viable alternative.
at this point rodimus switches from plut to mex: M6, P1, R4

after rodimus, ravenvii switched from renewed: M7, P1, R3
then renewed finally voted: M8, P1, R3
and last stonyC changed to plut from renewed: M8, P2, R2

so, rodimus vote was instrumental in getting mex a decisive lead: if he was the kamikaze, he could have voted for renewed (tying the vote at 5-5) or just waited to see if renewed was going to get another vote. there was still people not voting or with votes going to third parties.
ravenvii is more iffy, because at that point maybe if the infection had failed they might have decided that it was a lost battle and he leaned on him more. also ravenvii had voted for renewed making him a viable alternative.
renewed's vote for emx is quite reasonable as a regular defense vote.

to me the most suspect for kamikaze (for infected wolf and vamp i have no specific ideas yet) would be jimN (for his defense of mex as the priest), ravenvii for the double vote switch, stonyC for the mostly pointless switch away from renewed at the end (except for uncoupling himself from mex's vote?) and those who didn't vote for the usual reasons.
 
Don't panic said:
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to me the most suspect for kamikaze (for infected wolf and vamp i have no specific ideas yet) would be jimN (for his defense of mex as the priest), ravenvii for the double vote switch, stonyC for the mostly pointless switch away from renewed at the end (except for uncoupling himself from mex's vote?) and those who didn't vote for the usual reasons.
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You have a point regarding the timing of the votes, I neglected to account for the relative vote totals... thus, dropping Rodimus lower in my suspicion index.

As for me, remember that I posted that I would re-consider my vote if renewed posted... he did, so I did. I voted for Plutonius largely because he did not switch his vote to the next least active player (renewed) as he said he would after Mex posted (fortunately, he didn't change his vote). Please also note that once it was revealed that Mex was a WW, I shifted my focus away from Plutonius, content that I believe for now that he is a legitimate villager.

Ravenvii is still throwing me for a loop, however.
 
jimN said:
The quietness of mexbearpig and the failure of the priest to appear may be a coincidence but it would be a shame to vote our priest off and completely shoot ourselves in the foot.

People should seriously consider the possibility that MBP is the priest and not lynch him for that reason. Admittedly an inactive priest is no better but if he does finally turn up he can at least make himself useful. The only way the priest can be killed at this stage is by lynching.

If Mexbearpig isn't the priest then whoever is is happily posting away in the room and being utterly useless; but we'll be forced to welcome them with open arms tomorrow as they have something that we need and the knowledge that they are untouchable for 3 nights!
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jimN said:
Didn't see that coming and not sure why he didn't say anything, he could have saved himself. Am feeling like an idiot now for defending him, would ask the seer to scan me as I'm sure I'll be up for lynching tomorrow now and I damned if I'm getting booted out of another of these games early.

If he has been active elsewhere it's safe to say he's infected someone, the question of course is who.
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Don't panic said:
to me the most suspect for kamikaze (for infected wolf and vamp i have no specific ideas yet) would be jimN (for his defense of mex as the priest), ....
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Hmmm.... interesting.... ???
 
I'm neither wolf or vampire.

I defended mexbearpig for rational reasons at a time when it was futile and never moved my vote, having played in the wolf pair last game my actions would have made no sense and made me suspect no.1. Am either trying the Basic Instinct defense or am telling the truth.

I'll leave you lot to decide.
 
Prepares my thank you speech in anticipation of the thank you party the village will have in my honor (since there is no way anybody was going to vote for Mexbearpig until I started the vote going). Is pointedly ignored so I shuffle back to my cabin :D.
 
mscriv said:
Hmmm.... interesting.... ???
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Why? The most suspect would be plutonius, since he was definitely out to get MBP from the beginning (sometimes I think some of you guys are psychic?!). So, no one would suspect the WW’s would pick him to infect. Or would they? Just a thought.

And there’s always Melrose and Rodimus Prime to suspect. :D
 
Plutonius said:
Prepares my thank you speech in anticipation of the thank you party the village will have in my honor (since there is no way anybody was going to vote for Mexbearpig until I started the vote going). Is pointedly ignored so I shuffle back to my cabin :D.
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all-right, all-right.
good job pluto.
I'll see you at the tavern. Your root-beer is on me. :)
 
Wow, very nice surprise that we got a wolf on the first day.

I don't feel so bad voting for MBP now. :p
 
While we're all waiting for the sun to rise, could everyone in the village fill out the following form. When finished just slide it under my front door.

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Are you a Werewolf? (Please check only one.)

___ Yes
___ No
___ I just got eaten by a WW!
___ No, but I would like to suck your blood.
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Thank You
 
Cboss said:
While we're all waiting for the sun to rise, could everyone in the village fill out the following form. When finished just slide it under my front door.

-----------------------------------------------------
Are you a Werewolf? (Please check only one.)

___ Yes
___ No
___ I just got eaten by a WW!
___ No, but I would like to suck your blood.
-----------------------------------------------------

Thank You
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Are you a Werewolf? (Please check only one.)

___ Yes
_X_ No
___ I just got eaten by a WW!
___ No, but I would like to suck your blood.
-----------------------------------------------------
 
-----------------------------------------------------
Are you a Werewolf? (Please check only one.)

___ Yes
_x_ No
__?_ I just got eaten by a WW!
___ No, but I would like to suck your blood.
-----------------------------------------------------
 
-----------------------------------------------------
Are you a Werewolf? (Please check only one.)

_x_ Yes
___ No
___ I just got eaten by a WW!
___ No, but I would like to suck your blood.
-----------------------------------------------------

Glad I could help :).
 
I think it's more likely that the other WW(s) didn't vote for MBP or at all. Why would they give them selves away this early on Day 1 random/mob voting by switching to MBP?
The only one that really stands out is Don't Panic. If you look at his post 326 he doesn't mention his vote change from Cboss to renewed (242) who was the only other one that could be lynched. Jav did the tally at 240 3 MBP 3 renewed and DP put renewed ahead.
ravenvii changed in 246 to renewed and later to MBP, so is also a good candidate for WW. Although that contradicts my first sentence.
DP then ravenvii are most suspicious to me right now.

Melrose said:
Who was that that killed me in the last game? I'm curious, really. Who was that? :p :D
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You would have died that night anyway. :p
 
Melkorr said:
I think it's more likely that the other WW(s) didn't vote for MBP or at all. Why would they give them selves away this early on Day 1 random/mob voting by switching to MBP?
The only one that really stands out is Don't Panic. If you look at his post 326 he doesn't mention his vote change from Cboss to renewed (242) who was the only other one that could be lynched. Jav did the tally at 240 3 MBP 3 renewed and DP put renewed ahead.
ravenvii changed in 246 to renewed and later to MBP, so is also a good candidate for WW. Although that contradicts my first sentence.
DP then ravenvii are most suspicious to me right now.
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Or maybe, just maybe, you should actually bother to read the posts you quote before charging ahead?
just a suggestion to avoid building theories on fictional stuff... ;)

JAV's post 240:
jav6454 said:
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1x Melkorr - [ CBoss ]
1x chrmjenkins - [ ravenvii ]
1x ravenvii - [ jimN ]
1x CBoss - [ Don't Panic ]
1x iBlue - [ appleguy123 ]
1x renewed - [ stonyc ]
1x appleguy123 - [ Moyank24 ]
3x MexBearpig - [ NathanMuir, Plutonius, philbeeney ]
3x Plutonius - [ Rodimus Prime, MexBearig, Melrose ]
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it was Plutonius and Renewed at 3 votes, renewed only had one, so my vote didn't put anyone 'ahead'

my post 242:
Don't panic said:
i'll move my vote to renewed, as he is now the least active player on the thread.
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after this (which was an approach i had announced before the game) renewed had two votes, plutonius and mexbearpig had 3.

which you would have known if you had read my post #326, where i happen to 'mention' exactly that:
Don't panic said:
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at one point we had mex 3, plut 3 and renewed 1.
then i voted for renewed who hadn't posted at all yet: M3, P3, R2
then ravenvii voted for renewed as well: M3, P3, R3
very fluid situation at this point (also anyone with one vote could have easily become a viable candidate for lynching.

then:
melkorr voted for mex: M4,P3,R3
appleguy voted for mex: M5, P3, R3
mex switched from plut to renewed: M5, P2, R4
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you are welcome. :)
 
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