[WW] The MRville Horror, Part 3 GAME OVER - Villagers Win!

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^ Thank you, tooz. :)

I think I'll have an extra spicy Cajun Jambalaya but here's hoping the village comes to their senses and it's not my last meal.
 
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iBlue said:
^ Thank you, tooz. :)

I think I'll have an extra spicy Cajun Jambalaya but here's hoping the village comes to their senses and it's not my last meal.
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for what is worth, i believe you, but i am afraid it's too late: according to Jav6454 explanation above, the votes become locked as soon as a majority is reached.
but if not, you have to convince at least another villager to switch allegiance, before ravenvii seal your fate.
and who'd you think should go to the gallows in your stead?
 
Umm, peeps, while it's nice of you to change your vote from iBlue (and I would change it to if I could), as we're playing with the same basic rules as last game, that means you can't change your votes after the majority has been reached, no? And if that's true, then hasn't a majority against iBlue already been reached?

Edit: Damn you, Don't Panic, how dare you beat me to it! :p
 
Damn! I didn't realize that about it being locked at majority instead of a set time or something. I think that's a rather stupid rule, and not just because it's my own neck on the line. People like to vote with the herd instead of their heads. The accused should have a small chance of redeeming themselves/the votes.

Sounds like it's all too late though. :( I rather liked this game and it sucks to be taken out so early and for absolutely nothing. Good luck, jerks! :p

As for who I think should go to the gallows in my stead, anyone who rallied for my death really. ;)
 
Don't panic said:
for what is worth, i believe you, but i am afraid it's too late: according to Jav6454 explanation above, the votes become locked as soon as a majority is reached.
but if not, you have to convince at least another villager to switch allegiance, before ravenvii seal your fate.
and who'd you think should go to the gallows in your stead?
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King Mook Mook said:
Umm, peeps, while it's nice of you to change your vote from iBlue (and I would change it to if I could), as we're playing with the same basic rules as last game, that means you can't change your votes after the majority has been reached, no? And if that's true, then hasn't a majority against iBlue already been reached?

Edit: Damn you, Don't Panic, how dare you beat me to it! :p
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iBlue said:
Damn! I didn't realize that about it being locked at majority instead of a set time or something. I think that's a rather stupid rule, and not just because it's my own neck on the line. People like to vote with the herd instead of their heads. The accused should have a small chance of redeeming themselves/the votes.

Sounds like it's all too late though. :( I rather liked this game and it sucks to be taken out so early and for absolutely nothing. Good luck, jerks! :p

As for who I think should go to the gallows in my stead, anyone who rallied for my death really. ;)
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My vote didn't matter anyway so it didn't matter if I changed. If I was in the 9, obviously I wouldn't have changed.
and it helps her feel better
 
well if iBlue is going to be lynch I do have a nice room set up for Zombias. My servants are pretty good at caring for Zombias.

Plus I have a hook up at a prison were I can get death row inmates Zombies can eat the brains from.
 
Whoa folks... All I said was that iBlue hurt my feelings, not that we should string her up. It seems some of our new players this game are quite lynch happy.

For what it's worth I like the idea of picking set times for votes to lock and for specials/baddies to make their decisions. As iBlue pointed out doing votes this way would at least allow for the accused some measure of time to defend themself and make their case for someone else. As it stands now the mob mentality can definitely cause voting to roll quickly and I'm sure some cast a vote just for the sake of helping the game move along. Additionally, set times might make it easier for everyone to be responsible about participating. If you know the deadline and you don't check in then you have no one to blame but yourself and you can't complain that things happened while you were out.

What does everyone else think?
 
As long as the deadline is reasonably long, to accommodate people having lives outside MRville, I don't see the problem with even going a night without an attack or a day without a lynching. If the wolves or villagers suffer consequences of that, it's on their own heads.
 
Gelfin said:
As long as the deadline is reasonably long, to accommodate people having lives outside MRville, I don't see the problem with even going a night without an attack or a day without a lynching. If the wolves or villagers suffer consequences of that, it's on their own heads.
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the deadline should be only on the night activities, where one player can hang the game indefinitively.
daytime is for discussions and you only need a majority vote, so if someone cannot vote it doesn't matter too much
 
Don't panic said:
daytime is for discussions and you only need a majority vote, so if someone cannot vote it doesn't matter too much
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My point is not that people would miss their chance to vote, but miss their chance to defend themselves before majority is reached. Keep in mind majority is only half of the players voting, so if the mob rolls off votes quickly, in say a real life two hour period, then it's pretty easy to miss it if you are doing something during that time. Not everyone is sitting in front of a computer all day checking MR every hour or so.

What I see happening a lot is someone being willing to break the ice in throwing out a name and many following along because they are just glad they aren't the one being accused. This doesn't allow much time for our specials to find creative ways to share their knowledge. The only way for us villagers to avoid blindly slaughtering ourselves is to allow our specials some time to work.
 
I would be all for a designated time for voting to end as opposed to being stopped when the majority is reached. The accused should be given their forum (pun intended!) to face their accusers. As long as the time period from ravenii's nighttime post isn't too long and doesn't hamper the flow of the game, I'm all for it... what would be a reasonable amount of time? 4 hours? 6 hours? 8 hours? Any more and I think it's pushing it...

EDIT: Another option could be to designate a time period for voting to occur, but allow votes to be changed up until that time period is over... regardless if the majority is reached.
 
stonyc said:
EDIT: Another option could be to designate a time period for voting to occur, but allow votes to be changed up until that time period is over... regardless if the majority is reached.
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Agreed. This way if the accused makes a persuasive argument then people can change their vote before the deadline.
 
tooz said:
I believe you for some crazy reason, so I change my vote to jav6454, haven't seen him try to defend himself much
My vote had/has no impact as a majority has already been reached though.

but seeing as it won't make much difference, any requests for a last meal?
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I haven't tried to defend myself much? Hmm, I think I'll need to go get a Death Star and some clone army in order to ramp up my defense.:p

mscriv said:
Agreed. This way if the accused makes a persuasive argument then people can change their vote before the deadline.
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Then again, how many times has the mob mentality taken over regardlessly of how well the soon to be victim argues?
 
jav6454 said:
I haven't tried to defend myself much? Hmm, I think I'll need to go get a Death Star and some clone army in order to ramp up my defense.:p
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By the way and OT... is your avatar one of those HK## droids from Knights of the Old Republic?

jav6454 said:
Then again, how many times has the mob mentality taken over regardlessly of how well the soon to be victim argues?
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I guess I see the time limitation as a means for someone to present an argument against their lynching if real life matters don't allow them to immediately check in to the forums before the mob has their way. I just think that a few hours should be sufficient to the accused to have "their day in court", and be fair to those players that are trying to be actively involved in the game.
 
stonyc said:
By the way and OT... is your avatar one of those HK## droids from Knights of the Old Republic?
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Yes it is.

stonyc said:
I guess I see the time limitation as a means for someone to present an argument against their lynching if real life matters don't allow them to immediately check in to the forums before the mob has their way. I just think that a few hours should be sufficient to the accused to have "their day in court", and be fair to those players that are trying to be actively involved in the game.
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Agreed.
 
jav6454 said:
Then again, how many times has the mob mentality taken over regardlessly of how well the soon to be victim argues?
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That's always a risk, but at least this way they've had their chance for defense and can say "I told you so" or we can revel in our glory if they turn out to be a baddie and we weren't swayed. I just think it's fair for all that there's some chance for discussion as opposed to it being over as soon as the majority is reached. We all know there's nothing those lycans and vamps want more than to work us into a panic that leads to rash decisions and innocent deaths. :(
 
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