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I guess its Macintosh phones now and not computers.

Im soooo tired of hearing about the iphone:rolleyes:
 
I guess its Macintosh phones now and not computers.

Im soooo tired of hearing about the iphone:rolleyes:

Its a developers conference, and face it, developing for the iPhone is HUGE right now. But Snow Leopard should get some fair play there too, I would wager.
 
"iPhone Light"

i think we will see new light-weight iPhone
named "iPhone Light"

lightest mobile phone in the world
with small form-factor, cut some function

intend to sell in China but try to create new market segment in the world too.
 
I agree with the last 10 pages. iPhone ZzZzZz. Makes sense for this conference, but it's been the majority of talk for the last years worth of conferences.
 
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I'm sure we are going to get a really heavy dose of iPhone for this one but I really want to hear more about what is in the works for Snow Leopard.
 
i think we will see new light-weight iPhone
named "iPhone Light"

lightest mobile phone in the world
with small form-factor, cut some function

intend to sell in China but try to create new market segment in the world too.

i hope this never happens, iphone should be what it is, just with some speedbumbs and flash in apple logo on the back.:D

But do you guys expect apple will say "SHIPPING NOW" ?? or will steve jobs give another date?.
 
That's why this country has fallen behind because people don't care about simple science or logic. They would prefer to be blissfully ignorant. That's a whole new rant and doesn't belong here. :) I was simply responding to someone who rebuked someone else as being wrong. I replied to show that they were in fact wrong.

Right, so back to elementary science, no one can travel faster than light. So to move light years in one year is impossible ... POW!! :)

As someone who completely enjoyed college physics and all the insanity it tends to bring trying to grasp some of the concepts: give it a rest.

Nobody bashed those Sci-Fi authors relentlessly for dreaming up ways to break light speed, or using vast space empires (that are unrealistic with our current world view) to create interesting fiction that may or may not look into the human condition. I don't see any reason to dig into marketing folk for silly stuff like "you can't travel faster than light". It comes across as a bit elitist, IMO. One of the best qualities of humanity is that we can dream beyond our means, and do our best to make it a reality. Not everything we think, do, and say has to be grounded in hard reality, otherwise we take away a big part of our drive to aspire to be better than we are.

Last time I checked, while there is no way to travel faster than light, there were some interesting possibilities that are being explored for cheating the system and still traveling large distances in ways that could be considered FTL travel. Don't have the power generation, or enough knowledge of how spacetime itself acts in order to do any of them yet, but they haven't been ruled impossible either. (EDIT: And you can really get screwy the moment you consider Special Relativity and Time Dilation... It is possible to travel 2 million light-years in a single lifetime without going faster than the speed of light, but only for those onboard the ship making the journey, which from their perspective, is equivalent to traveling faster than the speed of light)
 
Why would anyone want a mac app store? Isn't the mac software community ok as it is? If apple takes away my ability to install whatever I want on my computer, without going through iTunes, without their approval, I would go linux. This is my computer, not my phone.

Maybe Apple gives desktop app developers the option to distribute their apps through the app store. Then Apple could tie updates into Software Update.

Yeah, iLife. REALLY important. :rolleyes:

This conference is about the iPhone when it really needs to be about the Mac.

As in, Final Cut Studio 3 and Logic Studio 2 written for Snow Leopard, full run-down of Snow Leopard performance...

You know, important things. Things that matter to the future of Apple's computers.

Heck, Apple just needs to buy Adobe. Then CS5 wouldn't just be 64-bit, it'd be written for Snow Leopard...

Are you going to the conference? Regardless you apparently haven't seen the list of developer sessions and the topics that will be covered.
 
I think you're making things up..or you're a windows user trying to hype win 7.

I tried win7 on my mac...it's still an ugly, convoluted piece of crap.



I'm not sure what all the hype is about..it still sucks.

Thank you nateco, I could not put it better. This is a reaction to Wolfpackfan and others who come here just to spread fud. I'm bloody SICK and TIRED of hearing about how good windows 7 is. I've tried it and the FACT is it's still "an ugly, convoluted piece of crap" like anything out of Redmond. But I'm still trying to understand why Wolfpackfan and his pack find it better than Leopard. So far I have come up with the following explanations:

• They are windoz users who tried a Mac for 30 minutes and could not "get it".
• They are blind (I mean no offense to blind people)
• They tried windows 7 in some other, possibly parallel Universe.
But if I had to use Occam's razor I would say they are just TROLLS.
 
Don't worry, Apple is definitely going to talk about Snow Leopard. From the WWDC Press Release:

OS X was mentioned in last year's press release but the demo/preview wasn't made public. Macs were barely even touched on, IIRC.

I'm really getting tired of the iPhone-centric Apple. The iPhone is great, but it's just a freakin' handheld device, and no matter how great it gets for its class, it's not nearly as powerful or interesting as a full-blown computer and has nowhere near the same potential. I really hope they give the Mac some time in the limelight this time around.
 
Apple has never ever alluded to a mac app store. However, as the number of machines apple produces without optical drives increases in the future, such a store might make sense.
 
Maybe Apple gives desktop app developers the option to distribute their apps through the app store. Then Apple could tie updates into Software Update.

I've thought about that, but the more I think about it, the less I want 3rd party apps to tie into Software Update.

Software Update currently assumes everything needs elevation. That right there is a risk, considering what a pkg can do without notifying the user fully about what it is doing. And if a package isn't elevated, why do you need one?

Right now, I'd rather see something like Sparkle get adopted and made accessible to all applications on the OS to encourage app developers to adopt it. From a security standpoint, Sparkle right now is in a place where it is more secure, and better for 3rd party apps than Software Update, as it exposes fewer entry points to malicious code to get extra permissions.
 
The iPhone is great, but it's just a freakin' handheld device, and no matter how great it gets for its class, it's not nearly as powerful or interesting as a full-blown computer and has nowhere near the same potential.

I agree, the potential of the desktop computer is higher. But the trouble is people can't just think up killer apps by magic. Think of how long the desktop computer has been around, and how often truly new apps appear. The wordprocessor and spreadsheet are old as the hills. The web browser came along in the 90s. Digital photo management in the 2000s.

One or two major new apps per decade? The rate of progress is so slow that the open source community has been able to close ground, despite the lack of profit incentive. But the smart phone is a lot less mature and lot more opportunity for innovation with things like GPS, compasses. Unlike the desktop computer, it is a problem that people haven't already been thinking on for 30 years, so more likely you can come up with new stuff without being a genius.

But I do agree that many of the things on the iphone are just baked-over, crappier versions of the things desktop computers have been doing for years.
 
I know it's inevetible that we won't, but I hope that Apple gives us something completely unexpected.

Pleaaashh not just a new iPhone and some rambles about SL.. Something different.

-Sam
 
What?

i think we will see new light-weight iPhone
named "iPhone Light"

lightest mobile phone in the world
with small form-factor, cut some function

intend to sell in China but try to create new market segment in the world too.

What function would you cut??

You're basically describing the iPod touch. It cuts out the phone function of the iPhone. But does everything else just the same, and it's lighter and thinner.
 
I agree, the potential of the desktop computer is higher. But the trouble is people can't just think up killer apps by magic. Think of how long the desktop computer has been around, and how often truly new apps appear. The wordprocessor and spreadsheet are old as the hills. The web browser came along in the 90s. Digital photo management in the 2000s.

One or two major new apps per decade? The rate of progress is so slow that the open source community has been able to close ground, despite the lack of profit incentive. But the smart phone is a lot less mature and lot more opportunity for innovation with things like GPS, compasses. Unlike the desktop computer, it is a problem that people haven't already been thinking on for 30 years, so more likely you can come up with new stuff without being a genius.

But I do agree that many of the things on the iphone are just baked-over, crappier versions of the things desktop computers have been doing for years.

I don't disagree with anything you've written, but it has that air of self-fulfilling prophecy to it. What's the cause and what's the effect, so to speak? If Apple (or any company, for that matter) views the computer as a dinosaur and focuses its energies and ideas on another product type, then the innovation in the computer realm is going to fall off, and consumers and developers will be less interested. That, in turn, looks like good justification to shift focus to mobile devices.
 
Another one for the 'boo/wtf/iPhone again???' club. I mean I like the iPhone as much as the next guy, but seriously Apple, get your head outta your ass with it. It's not impossible to work on two products at once and for the last few years you've been obsessed with the damn iPhone iPhone iPhone.

How lame.
 
This year's WWDC: iPhone OS 3.0, but mainly focus on one new thing: Mac OS X Snow Leopard.

I'd be thrilled to see another Mac/OS X-centered WWDC with a big Mac-related surprise but I really doubt it will happen. After the last year of lackluster, low-key, and in some cases, long overdue updates (yeah, Mac Mini, I'm looking at you) it seems Apple is happy to let the Mac run on auto-pilot. :(
 
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