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The problem isn't with the juxtaposition of distance and time.

Light Year: the distance that light travels in a vacuum in one Julian year

Since it has been "one-year later", the furthest they could be while moving at the speed of light, would be one light year. The poster says "light years"

They are technically wrong if you prescribe to the notion that one cannot travel faster than the speed of light.


Ahaha. Hilarious distinction!

Firstly, I'm not sure why anyone would start with the assumption that you can't travel faster than light.

But regardless of that, had they used "a light year ahead" nobody would have actually believed that they had travelled a light year; it's simply a metaphor.

I think the guy I quoted was more objecting to the use of juxtaposition of time and distance.

That's why this country has fallen behind because people don't care about simple science or logic.

To insist that people are always scientifically accurate or logical to the extent of proscribing the use of metaphor would, I imagine, lead to a pretty culturally impoverished existence! Would you rather they have to asterisk it?

*No light years were actually travelled in the making of this advertisement, or by Apple Inc, or any of its products, in the last year or at any other time.

PS. Apologies for continuing this semantic debate; I'm done now.
 
Because, maybe, JUST FRICKIN' MAYBE, some people use BOTH?

he he he, this is a really really hard concept for some people to handle...

I do sometimes wonder why so many Iphone and Ipod users would join a mac rumors sites, then reality hits and you realise that its all about Ipod/Iphone, ahh the good old days when it was about the computers...
 
We're all assuming thaat a new iPhone will be announced, right???

I do really hope that they will rls a new iphone, if they dont i will get mad cause i sold my iphone 2G yesterday for 400$:( And i am missing my iphone very much....

Pls god pls rls the iphone, steve pls rls it.

32 GB
Flash in apple logo
Digital Compass
HD (OLED display)
Thin
3.2 mp or 5 mp camera with autofocus.

PLSSS

And price 199$ or 299$.:apple::apple::apple:
 
Well Apple has a major problem on the horizon and that's Windows 7. I've been using it for about a month now in Bootcamp and it makes OS X look sick (in fact I'm posting this using it now with Firefox). It is fast, reliable, easy to use and works great. If Apple doesn't come out with Snow Leopard soon and if it isn't competitive with OS X in features and appearance, they've lost all the advantage they had over Vista. I also think the iPhone is last year's product, it's about run its gamut IMO. Making a big deal over cut and paste and even an improved camera is rather sad IMO. They need to come out with something big. If no new Mac hardware and if Snow Leopard is a disappointment (the features I've seen so far seem really boring) then Apple is going to be in for a hard time this Christmas with Win 7 selling like hotcakes. Whatever happened to the innovative Apple of a few years ago?

Best post I've read in about a year.

You are so accurate.
 
Apple won't be a gatekeeper as on a computer you will always be able to install software the traditional way. Even Apple isn't that stupid to think it will the only way to consume apps on a traditional computer.
It wouldn't be intended as a replacement, because the current way of installing applications will always exist on traditional computer.

You can't really say that with any certitude, can you? Personally, I'd rather not set foot on the slippery slope. We know how tightly Apple likes to control the experience at the expense of user freedom. I'd be concerned that this would be a step too far.

However, if you look at it the correct way...For a developer, SELLING their software can be difficult as they have to setup credit card processing agreements and all sorts of other things that they may not really want to deal with (I know I don't).

This is a good point, but is it good enough for them to want to sacrifice a 30% chunk of their earnings to Apple? Unlike iPhone apps, Mac apps sell at considerably higher prices, developers are likely going to want to control their income.

Ummm, they are already doing this.

Not on the scale that doing it with full-blown Mac apps would do. Think of the size differences between Mac and iPhone apps. Think of the added number of approvals required and the increased length and complexity of those approvals. Think of the extra capacity required to store and push those apps out to users.

Anything being simplified is a benefit.

Not true. As Einstein said, "make things as simple as possible, but no simpler". I'm concerned that for Mac apps, it may be a simplification too far.

I think many of the benefits you cite could be achieved more easily using a centrally hosted app directory web page, leaving distribution and payment up to individual developers. The benefits of the simplification for users don't outweigh its potential downsides, for me.

I do agree to the extent that if we could be sure Apple wouldn't end up locking out independent app distribution somewhere down the road (and Apple could justify the costs) then the extra choice and accessibility might be nice for new Mac users.
 
Even still, in the Phone arena they are Still light years behind Nokia in terms of sales and shipments.

Not really heard much hype about Snow Leopard, heard more about Windows 7 (that's shipping in October).

volume is not as important as money. Apple revenues and profit in the mobile arena are much more competitive with Nokia than you might believe.
 
Bring on 3.0 and new IPHONE!!!!!!!!!!!!! Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa HahahahhahahahahhahahahhA~!~~~!!!!!
 
I agree! The app store has got totally out of hand. It's clogged with useless apps like farting apps, peeing apps, surgery apps etc.
The internet has got totally out of hand. It is clogged with useless stuff...

Funnily enough, when I search for GPS, I never run into any farting apps, when I search for fart, I do however...
 
You can't really say that with any certitude, can you? Personally, I'd rather not set foot on the slippery slope. We know how tightly Apple likes to control the experience at the expense of user freedom. I'd be concerned that this would be a step too far.

Yes I can, it's not really an opinion. It's a fact! The mobile arena cannot be directly applied to desktop/laptop as the two markets are completely different and do work in entirely different ways.

For starters on the iPhone their was originally no freedom to install apps, and Apple gave freedom for approved apps.

The Mac market has always been an install free-for-all, so there is no way they could legally shut it down.



This is a good point, but is it good enough for them to want to sacrifice a 30% chunk of their earnings to Apple? Unlike iPhone apps, Mac apps sell at considerably higher prices, developers are likely going to want to control their income.

Most would be sacrificing a similar amount for the likes of credit card processing fees from a third party gateway and hosting costs etc. anyway.



Not on the scale that doing it with full-blown Mac apps would do. Think of the size differences between Mac and iPhone apps. Think of the added number of approvals required and the increased length and complexity of those approvals. Think of the extra capacity required to store and push those apps out to users.

Fair points, but again this isn't the only way to distribute Mac apps.

I do agree to the extent that if we could be sure Apple wouldn't end up locking out independent app distribution somewhere down the road (and Apple could justify the costs) then the extra choice and accessibility might be nice for new Mac users.

As I've said, I don't think they could legally do this due to open nature of the platform currently.
 
IBM about 1980:
'PCs, PCs, PCs, that is all the computer news is about lately.'

Well, 20 years form now, probably less, personal computers as we know will be virtually exting. Desktop PCs are already out of fashion for consumers expect gamers and niche applications. Notebooks are where it's at nowadays. Cloud computing is shifting the computing power away from the personal device that normal people buy. So basically the only thing you need is a nice user interface connected to the cloud, aka a "thin client".

Personally I would like to keep some of the stuff I do on my computer local, for security and privacy reasons. But you can't stop progress.
 
All those wondering about 10.6 and the Mac, I think Apple has made it fairly clear that the iPhone is the new Mac. Of course not in a physical sense but def. in a "where we'll be looking for revenue growth" one. I'm sure 10.6 will be glossed over, but, frankly there isn't much to show since it's 98% backend improvement and devs already are familar with it. I'd expect a consumer friendly demo to come at the Fall Mac refresh event. WWDC Keynote will be mostly all iPhone. That is a no-brainer.

Personally, 10.6 bores me. I'll buy it, but its just not that exciting. I really don't want to see another "bake off." It's the new iPhone I want to hear about and am looking forward to getting. Of course if Apple shows off a new lower cost sub-note or tablet all bets are off.
 
I was going to make a new thread but I guess this one already pertains to the app store...

Has anyone else noticed that the top 25 paid apps is getting more premium apps (aka apps that cost more than $.99). It's incredible that the Sims 3 shot up to #1 in one day even though it is ten dollars. Maybe as the economy picks up more, even more of the higher priced apps will appear on the top 25
 
Well Apple has a major problem on the horizon and that's Windows 7. I've been using it for about a month now in Bootcamp and it makes OS X look sick (in fact I'm posting this using it now with Firefox). It is fast, reliable, easy to use and works great. If Apple doesn't come out with Snow Leopard soon and if it isn't competitive with OS X in features and appearance, they've lost all the advantage they had over Vista. I also think the iPhone is last year's product, it's about run its gamut IMO. Making a big deal over cut and paste and even an improved camera is rather sad IMO. They need to come out with something big. If no new Mac hardware and if Snow Leopard is a disappointment (the features I've seen so far seem really boring) then Apple is going to be in for a hard time this Christmas with Win 7 selling like hotcakes. Whatever happened to the innovative Apple of a few years ago?

For many people it doesn't matter how good Windows 7 will be. I dumped Windows because I don't like it - any of it - and Windows 7 will not address the issues I have with it. Which means that many of Windows 7 features - like the amazing new way to view your photographs *stifles yawn* - aren't relevant to people like me.

As for the iPhone running it's gamut, people were saying that last year before the 3G was released.
 
Firstly, I'm not sure why anyone would start with the assumption that you can't travel faster than light.

Because your mass would become infinite, which can't happen.

*No light years were actually travelled in the making of this advertisement, or by Apple Inc, or any of its products, in the last year or at any other time.

PS. Apologies for continuing this semantic debate; I'm done now.

You're right. I took things too seriously (maybe I was grouchy for being up too early). We'll consider the debate over.

Now onto WWDC, do you think there is any chance OS 3.0 gets released during the conference? Or will they again tie it to a hardware release? I tend to think that all signs are pointing to a release before the updated iPhone.
 
All those wondering about 10.6 and the Mac, I think Apple has made it fairly clear that the iPhone is the new Mac. Of course not in a physical sense but def. in a "where we'll be looking for revenue growth" one. I'm sure 10.6 will be glossed over, but, frankly there isn't much to show since it's 98% backend improvement and devs already are familar with it. I'd expect a consumer friendly demo to come at the Fall Mac refresh event. WWDC Keynote will be mostly all iPhone. That is a no-brainer.

Personally, 10.6 bores me. I'll buy it, but its just not that exciting. I really don't want to see another "bake off." It's the new iPhone I want to hear about and am looking forward to getting. Of course if Apple shows off a new lower cost sub-note or tablet all bets are off.

10.6 is a huge architecture change for apple. And with Windows 7 coming out, I think it is make it or break. Apple really needs to press the advantage it had over vista...days are numbered. The new iphone will just be a slight hardware update, nothing revolutionary. Its interesting to read your point though. In the past alot of us mac users were very passionate about the computer side of Apple, and these days it has shifted, alot of users only care about the Iphone, now the question is, how much does Apple still care about its computers?
 
iphone, iphone, iphone, that's all apple news is about lately.

What iPhone is all about is, in your pocket, you have something that's connected all the time - iPhone is personal; it knows who you are and where you are. That's a big deal, a really big deal - it's bigger than the personal computer. Apple understands that and is using the moment wisely.
 
For many people it doesn't matter how good Windows 7 will be. I dumped Windows because I don't like it - any of it - and Windows 7 will not address the issues I have with it. Which means that many of Windows 7 features - like the amazing new way to view your photographs *stifles yawn* - aren't relevant to people like me.

As for the iPhone running it's gamut, people were saying that last year before the 3G was released.

So you did not like any features of windows, is this all windows OS ever made? or just vista? Frankly Windows 7 and os x share alot of very similar features. And Windows 7 has really improved on past interations. Maybe you should try it. So what you saying is you like the Apple logo on your products and not the window logo?

Ummm, there kinda was just a little hype about the App store and an iphone 3G last year? Did you miss it all??? You would have to be a real PC fanboy to have said the iphone was running it gamut before the release of the app store and Iphone 3G.
 
And The All New iPhone with OS 3.0

No words... just a picture :D

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And yes I told you so ;) Call it fake, or just believe it.
 
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