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WWDC PowerBook G5 2.2GHz?

:confused: You guys sure know alot! All I can relate to is that when I upgraded my G3 Imac 350 to Panther (I waited, didn't do Jaguar)
I essentially got a new machine. Although I can't run any of the new games, or edit video (no firewire model) for basic needs such as email, web, and writing letters paying bills. This was an amazing upgrade in software alone.

My point is if they to Tiger as well as they did Panther, All you guys with first genration G5 or late model G4's (1 gig and above) will probably not be dissapointed.

Sadly, I will probably not be able to partake with Tiger, as I presume it will be G4 only. Makes sense.
 
so maybe...

ok, so what if this is pretty far-fetched. its enough for me to put off buying a laptop that i dont even need untill school starts. i was ready to go to bestbuy and purchase a PB (that have just recently been re-added to the website) and use my employee discount (which is just a few bucks more than the educational discount).

i actually couldnt care less if it was a G5 or not, i just want to wait so that i am not kicking myself in the nuts if something spectacular does come out....for instance maybe a new kind of portable like the continually speculated Apple Tablet which i would buy in a heartbeat (tablet are so frickin cool) :p

lets not be so pestimistic people, be at the very least a little open-minded
 
Whatever, timing is fine for me.

I'll be buying a new Powerbook 15" (full kit) to start paying from July 2004 (AU tax year start) which is in another couple'a'weeks....
And if a G5 Powerbook comes out early 2005, great, the AU FBT year starts in April, right? Salary sacrificing is a wonderfull thing! :) Lucky me!
I think I want one of those music streamer doodaas.
 
This would be so amzing. Acording to this rumors, it would be 2.2, and if this is true which is very well could be wrong then the desktop would have to be like Dual 2.6 Dual 3.0 and like a single 2.4. If that happend that would be very nice, and jobs fufilled his 3ghz promise and then some
 
I am going to buy a powerbook in september- october no matter what. If its g5 then ok if its like a 1.5 G4 then ok
 
El Duderino said:
ok, so what if this is pretty far-fetched. its enough for me to put off buying a laptop that i dont even need untill school starts. i was ready to go to bestbuy and purchase a PB (that have just recently been re-added to the website) and use my employee discount (which is just a few bucks more than the educational discount).

i actually couldnt care less if it was a G5 or not, i just want to wait so that i am not kicking myself in the nuts if something spectacular does come out....for instance maybe a new kind of portable like the continually speculated Apple Tablet which i would buy in a heartbeat (tablet are so frickin cool) :p

lets not be so pestimistic people, be at the very least a little open-minded
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Open minded is where there is some type of evidence that something is going to happen, so we wait and see.

This entire thread is based on one useless, anonymous, unfounded, no proof, thread that was even removed from the site it was posted on. The machines were just updated 6 weeks ago! I know people want a G5 PB, but please don't confuse pessimism with realism. There are many intelligent people on here that realize when Apple releases a machine 6 weeks ago, a machine that took over a month to get to some customers who ordered right away (as in they got it 2 weeks ago), that they are not going to then update it again.

We all want the G5 PB now, but then there is the real world!

Cheers!
 
I think it's very possible we'll see PB G5s at WWDC, like I've said before. Apple must have something up their sleeve! I don't care that the PBs were just updated last month! I think that was a just an interim release.
 
Calebj14 said:
I think it's very possible we'll see PB G5s at WWDC, like I've said before. Apple must have something up their sleeve! I don't care that the PBs were just updated last month! I think that was a just an interim release.
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Do you feel that way because of the rumor, or did you originally think 2.2 GHz G5 Powerbooks would be introduced at WWDC?

Squire
 
So, read this:

http://maccentral.macworld.com/news/2004/06/09/apple/index.php?redirect=1086765595000

...and NOW can we agree that the G5 PB will NOT be out anytime soon? Here is the direct quote:

"I think it's important to realize that the technical challenges are not trivial putting that G5 in a PowerBook or anything else and not to expect a G5 anytime soon in a PowerBook -- certainly not before the end of the year," said Boger."

Everyone enjoy their G4 Al Books for a little while longer... I know I will!

Cheers,

James
 
Squire said:
Do you feel that way because of the rumor, or did you originally think 2.2 GHz G5 Powerbooks would be introduced at WWDC?

Squire
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I felt that way before the rumor, but regarding today's announcement, looks like I was wrong :(.
 
Hopefully something like this can be released between September and February.

-Powerbook G5-Mobile
-(maybe using e600 or e700 w/ 400mhz fsb)
-new Gun Metal case, still roughly 1 inch thick
-All widescreen
-128mb video
-gigabit internet and airport extreme
-superdrives

-1.7ghz 13 inch
-1.8ghz 15 inch
-2.0ghz 15 inch
-2.0ghz 17 inch
 
Hector said:
out of interest how long do you spend reserching and typeing out your epic post's?
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It depends on the subject, really. Some take me longer than others because I actually need to dig up reference materials - PDFs, websites, and so on - and others are just things I know or have read already.

Mostly, my posts lately have been rehashing points with people who seem to think that some of their wants will defy physics and general system design. It was good to be validated today on what I said about both the iMac and PowerBook moving to the G5, though I do believe it will happen eventually. The question is what the "G5" will be, and what the specifications will end up showing us.
 
Florida Gator said:
Hopefully something like this can be released between September and February.

-Powerbook G5-Mobile
-(maybe using e600 or e700 w/ 400mhz fsb)
-new Gun Metal case, still roughly 1 inch thick
-All widescreen
-128mb video
-gigabit internet and airport extreme
-superdrives

-1.7ghz 13 inch
-1.8ghz 15 inch
-2.0ghz 15 inch
-2.0ghz 17 inch
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You don't ask for much, do you?! Although, I must admit I like the idea of a 13" W/S - I think we should all just accept that the G5 really won't be in the powerbook for a good 8-12 months minimum. How long did it take them to get the G4 from tower to notebook?!

Hob
 
hob said:
You don't ask for much, do you?! Although, I must admit I like the idea of a 13" W/S - I think we should all just accept that the G5 really won't be in the powerbook for a good 8-12 months minimum. How long did it take them to get the G4 from tower to notebook?!

Hob
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You realize the chip he is talking about (e600/e700) is not an IBM G5 at all, but the next generation chip from Freescale (the former chip department of Motorola). Based on the power/heat specs expected from these chips, it would be perfectly reasonable to get them into a laptop. Of course, that is assuming Apple wants to keep using Moto chips and not go to an exclusively IBM line.

To me it makes sense to use one chip for portables (esp. when that chips is low heat) and one for desktop with more power but high heat.
 
pjkelnhofer said:
You realize the chip he is talking about (e600/e700) is not an IBM G5 at all, but the next generation chip from Freescale (the former chip department of Motorola). Based on the power/heat specs expected from these chips, it would be perfectly reasonable to get them into a laptop. Of course, that is assuming Apple wants to keep using Moto chips and not go to an exclusively IBM line.

To me it makes sense to use one chip for portables (esp. when that chips is low heat) and one for desktop with more power but high heat.
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Ah my apolgies, in that case it makes more sense to me also - but is there anything wrong with the current G4? Do we really NEED more speed in our laptops? - that's the point i was trying to make...!
 
hob said:
Ah my apolgies, in that case it makes more sense to me also - but is there anything wrong with the current G4? Do we really NEED more speed in our laptops? - that's the point i was trying to make...!
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a) if we only produced what we NEEDED, youd be inside a cave right now tapping your fingers on some rocks
b) some people do need faster processors now
c) some people want faster processors now, so in 4 years when they do need it, they have it
d) its called progress
 
hob said:
Ah my apolgies, in that case it makes more sense to me also - but is there anything wrong with the current G4? Do we really NEED more speed in our laptops? - that's the point i was trying to make...!
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Yes we need more speed! The current G4s are hobbled by their slow FSB and clockspeed. We need new processors.
 
G4 to laptop

How long did it take to get G4 into a PB?
This was before my time (as a Mac user at least!) and it would be interesting to compare with the G5's progress to portables.
 
Montserrat said:
How long did it take to get G4 into a PB?
This was before my time (as a Mac user at least!) and it would be interesting to compare with the G5's progress to portables.
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PowerMac G4 released August or so 1999 @ 300/350/400/450 MHz
PowerBook G4 (TiBook) released January 2001 @ 400/500 MHz

Therefore there was a massive gap, but then the Pismo PowerBook G3 (2000) was 500 MHz G3 so was still reasonably competitive.

It was a long time to get the G4 into a PowerBook but then they did completely redesigned the look (i.e. small, thin, light).

I would think we have a while to go yet until the G5 PB sees the light of day (i.e. next Jan at absolute minimum).
 
January seems reasonable

18 months from G4 tower to G4 powerbook, so I suppose January would be a likely introduction for G5 books given G5 tower came out last summer. Not that the transition is going to involve all the same problems, but I'm not one of those who believes the WWDC rumour (though I'd love to be proved wrong).

Maybe they'll use liquid cooling like the new 2.5GHz - has that been done in a laptop before? I can see the banners now: "Ultrafast, Ultraquiet, Ultracool" - Might attract some PB G4 users (like myself) with advanced Erythema ab igne on their thighs!


(EDIT)
OK I guess I should do some simple googling before asking questions:
http://www.appleinsider.com/article.php?id=167
Talks about plans for liquid PB G5s and previous implementations of Liquid cooling in laptops
 
I think it'll be a while. A G5 1.2 GHz wouldn't cut the mustard, even if it did have 600 MHz frontside bus. I'd stick with the G4. A faster G5 would be too hot.

Apple is obviously having difficulty getting the G5 heat down. I would think they would like to get it in a 1 - 1.5 inch thick enclosure so that it rivals centrinos. It takes time.

Besides, I'm perfectly happy with my 1GHz 12" PowerBook G4 ;) :p
 
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