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I don't know about the idea of a screen with all the workings mounted on the back. there are several such machines here in Tokyo made by Fujitsu, Toshiba and other electronic companies, even one of the Sony Vaio models is similar. And they all look fugly. All bolging out all over the place. Sure you save a 'fotprint' as hte bulk is in the back of hte monitor, but the monitor isn't really a flat screen anymore, it is about 15cm thick.

Hangable displays ae cool, but to mount with a correct angle to be able to get a good view from various angles is a litle tough, plus the weight of the monitor and the brackets needed to mount it, I would be worried the thing would fall off. Now a regular desktop monitor with an adjustable stand and speakers built into the side would be perfect, you could stand it anywhere (I really like the design of the new Sony Wega HDTV and the ones from Panaonic are pretty cool too - king of the direction Apple could head and improve on)

An iPod to wirelessly connect to an Airport Express would be even better...
 
Chip NoVaMac said:
Given the trend in consumer electronics (stereos, home theater systems, and even TV's) I think the new iMac color may be a "silver" plastic.

NOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!

if one cannot make the real thing (metal) cheap enough, it shouldn't be emulated. metallish plastic is the cheapest-looking thing i can imagine - i hope apple doesn't get there.

and plastic that tries to look like wood? come on. put in real wood or real metal, but don't try to make plastic look like it. when i touch plastic, no matter what colour it is, it feels plastic. the less plastic (real) it looks like, the more cheap it feels. the same goes with metal and wood - the less the material feels like the real thing (when touched), the more it looks like a cheap do-not-buy-item that we all know apple doesn't stand for.

imac has always had good plastics. if the third imac will also be plastic, i hope it has classy plastics as the earlier versions do.

silvery plastic? makes me want to puke if it has apple logo attached...
 
Have you seen the latest?

They're like these sunglasses, only they've got mics and dual HD cameras in them, and they plug into your ipod, and you capture the experience in 3D surround and replay it when you get old... oh, wait, that was this movie called brainstorm with the man without a country and natalie wood... Still, frogdesign needs something to work on, and all the iPod's incredible hard drive space COULD be put to use as video storage. They'll call it iSaw, and it'll be voice controlled.
 
AT71 said:
No broadcast at Apple Stores? Guess nothing big is going to happen.

Was last year's WWDC web broadcast "live" or delayed? Couldn't remember. But I do remember that Apple only announced a broadcast on Friday three days before. If nothing happens by Friday this week, it means nothing. :cool:

I DO NOT believe it was streamed live through QuickTime, but released a few days later for people to listen to. It was however boradcasted to Apple Retail Stores and via satellite. I have a C-Band Dish so I usually watch it there. Apple almost has to have it broadcasted on satellite. This is how news stations get their clips, and also how some of the Apple Stores got it. I'll have to do some scanning around monday around noon eastern time and see if I can find it with my C-Band dish. Maybe I'll get lucky!
 
wordmunger said:
I suppose there are also practical reasons: if you wanted your monitor to double as your DVD-viewing screen, if you had limited desk space, if you need to work on very large images. But mainly it's to say "mine's bigger."

And for the Video Pros out there it means you can have a full 2K film plate showing on one monitor, something you can't do on 2x23 inch monitors. If you ever work with 2K plates for film compositing (I do with Shake) you'd REALLY appreciate not having to work at 75% actual size all the time. I'd like one of theseif I hadn't just purchased a new dual 2.5 badboy. It'll be another month or two before I get a new screen.
 
macnews said:
Another thing that would tick me off is if we see a design that goes against everything Steve said was the reason for the design of the flat panel imac. Remember - the hard drive, cd drive all work better horizontally and the display vertically. Nothing big but if that was the case then why move from the design.

I would be just as disappointed. I'm sorta hoping these iMac rumors aren't accurate.

But, there is something we have all forgotten... The G4 Cube had vertical HDs and optical drives! Is this the return of the Cube? It would be cool to be able to insert CDs/DVDs like toast, again.

Yet, I have a feeling we'll see mini-towers that sport a G5, one or two PCI(-X) slots and hopefully a AGP slot (don't expect PCI-Express early on on the iMac), upgradable HD, AE slot, and that always upgradable RAM. It will finally combine the power of the G5 with a new low price, so that we can compete with those cheap beige-boxes!

I wouldn't be too surprised the displays being announced here if these new iMac towers don't come with a display built-in. It may be the end of the iMac as we know it, but maybe we can gain some marketshare this way.

If we do lose the iMac or the iMac changes so drastically without any improvements we've always wanted (more upgradability!), then I'll be pretty sad. I've used iMacs for my last two computers (a Bondi Blue and FP, now), and they've been able to deal with everything I throw at them. To me, the iMac is the symbol of Apple getting out of the dark ages. Perhaps they should market my above design as the G5 Cube instead.

5 days...
 
my 2 cents (although quite late in the game and i'm not sure if someone already suggested this):

the new imac will be in the form of an "A", where the front is a monitor and the back is the guts, with ports running down the narrown side of the back. since there is speculation about a hanging element to it, this theory would fit perfectly. it will be white, have a 1.5Ghz G5, 80 gig hard drive, with 256mb RAM. there will be two sizes, 17 and 20 inch. the most common joke about this one will be that is it the all new aMac (finally replacing the lampMac joke).

really stupid aside: that almost makes me wish that they would get henry winkler to do the voice-over in the commercial as the fonze saying "ehhhhhhhhh!".
 
Abstract said:
Well I can understand why a new iMac would be premiered at a developers conference, but why the displays? iSight was premiered, and the G5 PMs were last year, but things can be developed for them. Same with the iMac. However, the displays....they're displays, and the people there can't do much with news of a new display. A new Apple display will be a bit better, but people are really only interested in seeing it because of its new frame that will hopefully match the PM G5.

Because us programmers (aka 'developers') love lots, and lots, and lots of screen space. 30" may not be enough. :)

AND, you can't develop for the iPod either.
 
satellite feed

Does anyone know what one would need to recieve broadcast from a satellite? Do you need a service, or can you just get a satellite and hook it up to your tv?
 
The meaning of it all

arn said:
story updated.

iMac G5 = Hangable?

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That'd be cool. With a large enough display, they could double it as an LCD TV - and really show the world what a media center PC should look like. Of course, Mr. Jobs doesn't really believe that enough people would actually want a media center PC, so I'm sure that they aren't going that direction - but I wouldn't mind seeing it anyway.
 
machan said:
i'd just go with a dish instead of the whole satellite. :)

really? What's the difference between a satellite and a dish? You're saying I can get feed from just a dish?
 
Jmitch said:
really? What's the difference between a satellite and a dish? You're saying I can get feed from just a dish?

LOL, you can't be serious, can you?

A satellite is something that takes millions of dollars to make, and then millions of dollars to send into outer-space. Personally, I think you should get a satellite.
 
GetSome681 said:
LOL, you can't be serious, can you?

A satellite is something that takes millions of dollars to make, and then millions of dollars to send into outer-space. Personally, I think you should get a satellite.

Oh yeah, my bad. What was I thinking. (hit myself) "Satellite dish " is the correct term I was looking for.

So the question is...

Do I need anything else to recieve the signal/broadcast other than just a dish and a tv?
 
JFreak said:
NOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!

if one cannot make the real thing (metal) cheap enough, it shouldn't be emulated. metallish plastic is the cheapest-looking thing i can imagine - i hope apple doesn't get there.

and plastic that tries to look like wood? come on. put in real wood or real metal, but don't try to make plastic look like it. when i touch plastic, no matter what colour it is, it feels plastic. the less plastic (real) it looks like, the more cheap it feels. the same goes with metal and wood - the less the material feels like the real thing (when touched), the more it looks like a cheap do-not-buy-item that we all know apple doesn't stand for.

imac has always had good plastics. if the third imac will also be plastic, i hope it has classy plastics as the earlier versions do.

silvery plastic? makes me want to puke if it has apple logo attached...

I agree! Maybe I am too old, but I like my stereos being black in color. This "silver" crap" is just that.
 
GetSome681 said:
Personally, I think you should get a satellite.

i feel bad for laughing as hard as i am.



back on topic: should add to my previous description of the "A" form factor i believe will be used on the new imac that i think the cd/dvd drive will load from the side, not the top.

also, the idea of a headless imac i think is really odd. first, the imac will ALWAYS have an integrated flat panel monitor, otherwise it's not an imac. if it's got a crt, they call it an emac. they tried to go headless once and called it the cube. it was overpriced and didn't sell, so it was discontinued. i don't disagree that it would be great to have a cheap, headless mac for the average joe on the street, but i don't know that it's going to be attempted again anytime soon.
 
NAG said:
I am almost certain that I watched it live via QuickTime.

You might have watched it in Quicktime, but it most certainly wasn't live. Apple released the Quicktime of the Keynote speech after the event had already taken place.
 
savar said:
This is kind of silly. Norton has no use on MacOSX: a modern operating system that doesn't get fragmentation, has great VM, has virtually no viruses, etc. I never liked Norton on OS9 anyway. I say good riddance.

Well, actually NAV does have one good use: it helps screen out PC viruses in email so I don't pass them on to anyone else.
 
job said:
You might have watched it in Quicktime, but it most certainly wasn't live. Apple released the Quicktime of the Keynote speech after the event had already taken place.

it wasn't live. i think the video was posted a few hours after the actual event. i know i was coming to macrumors (and a few other sites) to get updates during the keynote. (i remember seeing horrible first pictures of the G5 in this forum and wondering why it was all misshapen...then saw the real thing later and realized how bad those pics were).
 
Satellite broadcast coordinates!

It will be broadcast via satellite! Here are the coordinates!

Nevermind. Last year. Damn.
 
No Pizza Box iMac

Remember the Gateway Profile 4? That was exactly what they are describing this imac to be...a screen with a pizza box attatched to the back. It was so ugly. It really scares me that apple would even consider going on that route. The moveable screen was so revolutionary...I don't know why Apple would ever get rid of that.
 
machan said:
i feel bad for laughing as hard as i am.



back on topic: should add to my previous description of the "A" form factor i believe will be used on the new imac that i think the cd/dvd drive will load from the side, not the top.

also, the idea of a headless imac i think is really odd. first, the imac will ALWAYS have an integrated flat panel monitor, otherwise it's not an imac. if it's got a crt, they call it an emac. they tried to go headless once and called it the cube. it was overpriced and didn't sell, so it was discontinued. i don't disagree that it would be great to have a cheap, headless mac for the average joe on the street, but i don't know that it's going to be attempted again anytime soon.

I like the idea. There was a picture here that some did of just that idea. While some scoffed, there are some of us that would welcome the idea.

I am not sure that I would want to trust putting my iMac on the wall. I have seen some of the installs for the flat panels on the wall, and it is a monster. Apple is all about doing it yourself. Who is going take responsibility for a bad "install" on the wall?
 
job said:
You might have watched it in Quicktime, but it most certainly wasn't live. Apple released the Quicktime of the Keynote speech after the event had already taken place.

I believed it was streamed with some delay if I remember because I was was watching the quicktime and checking out their website to see updates at the same time.
 
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