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It's closer to a reboot than a continuation. The show has been dead for how long?
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/reboot

reboot ‎(plural reboots)

  1. (computing) An instance of rebooting.
  2. (narratology) The restarting of a series storyline that discards all previous continuity.
Same characters, played by the same actors, more or less aged the same rate picking up X amount of time after the last episode.

So...
Battlestar Galactica (2003) reboot of the 70s show.
Star Trek (2009) reboot of the "universe" starting with TOS of 1966 (TNG, Voyager, DS9 and films).


Star Wars TFA (2015) continuation of the previous films.
X-Files (2016) continuation of the previous series.
Doctor Who (2005) continuation of the previous series.

Does not mean there aren't continuity issues (I'm looking at you George Lucas, just for the original trilogy let alone the prequels). Some like Doctor Who or James Bond, build in rebooting with changing the lead actor - though in Doctor Who the "new Doctor" is a continuation of the previous incarnations - and of course TV and society changed quite a bit between 1989 the end of the first run of the show and 2005.
 
See - that is what I hear. Problem is:
- Episode 1 was so awful I can't ever see getting through it.
- After making my wife endure 30 minutes of that episode I will never get her to return ...
Episode 2 was just as bad.
 
Same characters, played by the same actors, more or less aged the same rate picking up X amount of time after the last episode.

We do have to have different definitions of reboot? I'm sticking with the original definition that I use with my computer. It was off. I didn't use it (for a decade). I turn it on again. That's a reboot.
 
We do have to have different definitions of reboot? I'm sticking with the original definition that I use with my computer. It was off. I didn't use it (for a decade). I turn it on again. That's a reboot.
Ummm the same word can have different meanings as illustrated by the definition. Think of starting over rather than continuing. Star Trek 2009 took the same characters from TOS of "Trek Prime" and wrote a new story and new continuity. This is not the case with this X-Files series.

So what do you think a sequel is? How do you define it?
 
Ummm the same word can have different meanings as illustrated by the definition. Think of starting over rather than continuing. Star Trek 2009 took the same characters from TOS of "Trek Prime" and wrote a new story and new continuity. This is not the case with this X-Files series.

So what do you think a sequel is? How do you define it?

A sequel is something that comes after. It can have the same characters or only the same geography.
 
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See - that is what I hear. Problem is:
- Episode 1 was so awful I can't ever see getting through it.
- After making my wife endure 30 minutes of that episode I will never get her to return ...

Episode 2 was just as bad.

Episode 2 is like a tradional X-Files episode and this one supports the premise of Season 10 Episode 1. It's evident opinions will vary on if it's worthy or not, but I enjoyed it.

We do have to have different definitions of reboot? I'm sticking with the original definition that I use with my computer. It was off. I didn't use it (for a decade). I turn it on again. That's a reboot.

This is not a big deal to me and I did not feel compelled to question this thread's title, but for clarity, you'll notice this new addition is listed as Seaon 10 for a reason. :) After a long break, I would call this more of a sequel, starting up after where the original left off as a continuation of the story.

For reboot, using the computer analogy, the OS is being reloaded from the beginning. For media, think of Star Trek, Battlestar Gallactica, or Spiderman where the series is started over from the beginning as if there was nothing before it. Those qualify as reboots. :)
 
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Dammit! Finally saw "Founder's Mutation", and I just knew since I criticized the first episode so harshly, they were gonna make me eat my words with the second one.

The scenes at the end, with Mulder fantasizing about life with William, shooting off model rockets and trying to explain "2001: A Space Odyssey"...those were beautiful. Actually brought tears to my eyes.

It was also one of the grisliest hours I've ever seen on TV. The more violent and bloody TV gets, the more ridiculous it looks that boobs in network prime time are still verboten. :rolleyes:

Oh -- and next week looks like a hoot. Did anyone catch the Carl Kolchak surrogate in the preview footage?
 
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Dammit! Finally saw "Founder's Mutation", and I just knew since I criticized the first episode so harshly, they were gonna make me eat my words with the second one.

The scenes at the end, with Mulder fantasizing about life with William, shooting off model rockets and trying to explain "2001: A Space Odyssey"...those were beautiful. Actually brought tears to my eyes.

It was also one of the grisliest hours I've ever seen on TV. The more violent and bloody TV gets, the more ridiculous it looks that boobs in network prime time are still verboten. :rolleyes:

It was a pretty notable improvement, and we all know the first EP was going to be a little exposition heavy after X years.

There's a theory about those William fantasies ... :D
 
* Yes, I know the final season wasn't part of the original story, but that's because TBS misled Straczynski into believing his show wasn't coming back for a fifth season, so he crammed the final two years of his five year storyline all into season 4.

Not quite...the final season was part of the original story, just expanded more than it would have been otherwise, in order to fill an entire season. B5 was on PTEN for the first 4 years, and PTEN came to an end, so presumably that was the end of B5 as well, leading JMS to wrap things up early. It wasn't until later that TBS stepped in and gave the show a 5th season, but by then it was too late to go with the original plan. TBS wasn't the bad guy at all; quite the opposite. (Well, at least regarding B5; they did screw him over with Crusade.)

Er, sorry...X-Files. Yeah. ;) I love how stuff like "OS X and W7 files" is listed as a "similar thread" below.

--Eric
 
I did not consistently watch the original series because it was inconsistent, with some strange/bizarre episodes, but this last episode while bizarre, did not bother me, in fact I liked the lizard man. He was very sympathetic. :) However, it appears they are not taking themselves very seriously so it's hard to take the show seriously, unless it's to be viewed as tongue and cheek, comedic alien hunting. ;)
 
However, it appears they are not taking themselves very seriously so it's hard to take the show seriously, unless it's to be viewed as tongue and cheek, comedic alien hunting. ;)

That's the way all Darin Morgan written episodes have been. They break away from the shows norm in very strange ways, usually tackling some pretty grim, existential subject matter in a comedic, lighthearted way.

His episodes, I believe there are 5 of them altogether, are usually numbered among the best the X-Files had to offer.
 
That's the way all Darin Morgan written episodes have been. They break away from the shows norm in very strange ways, usually tackling some pretty grim, existential subject matter in a comedic, lighthearted way.

His episodes, I believe there are 5 of them altogether, are usually numbered among the best the X-Files had to offer.

You need a tolerant audience, which maybe the X-Files had/has, because mixing genres as a rule does not work well from a story immersion aspect.

Say for example in Aliens the movie Act 2, rescuing the colonists under the atmospheric processor, the aliens upon their appearance had conducted a song and dance number about extendable mandibles are gonna get ya? :D For a comedy/musical, yes, but that would usually not fly when inserted into any serious story, hence why I casually watched the original X-Files, some of the episodes were pretty good when serious. The silly episodes I watched, while they could be good in a spoof way, served to break my immersion.

But as I said I enjoyed the Lizard Man with an Aussie accent, so maybe I am becoming more tolerant when the writers lapse into comedy. :)
 
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The 2000s: remakes of Jurassic Park, Terminator, Star Trek, X Files, etc., etc. etc. ..... no originality or creativity, only rehashing what has gone before
 
You need a tolerant audience, which maybe the X-Files had/has, because mixing genres as a rule does not work well from a story immersion aspect.

Say for example in Aliens the movie Act 2, rescuing the colonists under the atmospheric processor, the aliens upon their appearance had conducted a song and dance number about extendable mandibles are gonna get ya? :D For a comedy/musical, yes, but that would usually not fly when inserted into any serious story, hence why I casually watched the original X-Files, some of the episodes were pretty good when serious. The silly episodes I watched, while they could be good in a spoof way, served to break my immersion.

But as I said I enjoyed the Lizard Man with an Aussie accent, so may I am becoming more tolerant of the writers lapses into comedy. :)
There are often (or at least often enough) sort of offbeat or different episodes that would come up in longer running shows. Sometimes it's even part of the psyche of the show, as it kind of is for X-Files.
 
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There are often (or at least often enough) sort of offbeat or different episodes that would come up in longer running shows. Sometimes it's even part of the psyche of the show, as it kind of is for X-Files.

Infrequent, not regularly, and a humorous aspect in an otherwise serious story is acceptable (The Trouble With Tribbles, Stalag 17) and easily differentiated from a spoof. Self spoofing is rare in the body of long running tv series and movie franchises. X-Files is the only show I can remember doing it. :)
 
Infrequent, not regularly, and a humorous aspect in an otherwise serious story is acceptable (The Trouble With Trebles) and easily differentiated from a spoof. Self spoofing is exceedingly rare in the body of long running tv series and movie franchises. :)
I don't know, depending on the show I think something along the lines of self-spoofing can fit in with the humorous aspect. There are even shows that have an episode or two that are just musicals, so there's definitely a spectrum to these offbeat/humorous episodes with different styles and levels of that offbeat or humorous quality that can work for different shows.
 
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