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XBox 360 Specs Released [Triple Core @ 3.2Ghz each]

I just came from the Xbox site and 16 gigapixels a sec :eek: ....that's FU*KING INSANE ...thats double the X850XT PE's fill rate ....I want one NOWWWWWWWWWWWWW.
 
x86isslow said:
i know! *shudder*

c'mon nintendo. earn my money. please. (grew up on nes and 64)
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Seen the Revolution rumors recently? If you've read the Aries rumor you'd be saying "XBox who?" about now :D

Problem with the XBox 360 is that there is NOTHING NEW.

Better graphics? So what? It's an XBox 1.5!

The Nintendo Revolution already has my money the way these things are going.
 
GFLPraxis said:
For. The. Gazillionth. Time. It is NOT a G5.

And Microsoft didn't build it. IBM did.
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guys to put it as simply as I can think of, it's like the difference between a 1.5GHz G4 and a 1.5GHz G5. Same speed, different type of processor.

Although unlike the comparison above it probably won't outperform a G5 at certain tasks. :D

Still damn fast for a console though.
 
Reposting so people see it:


Firstly, IBM has a special PowerPC. It's in order (most chips are out of order), and far lacking in performance per MHz.

It is the only IBM chip that runs at over 3 GHz.

There are three of these in the XBox 360. Cheap little processors with a high clock speed.


The Cell has ONE 4 GHz PowerPC and four APU's. When they say "four core" only ONE core is a PowerPC.

We don't WANT these in a PowerMac.


YOU ARE MAC USERS! Don't you know the MHz Myth?
 
XBOX 360 may spur more HD tv sales. I know I'll get one, if I did own an XBOX 360.
 
ArcaneDevice said:
guys to put it as simply as I can think of, it's like the difference between a 1.5GHz G4 and a 1.5GHz G5. Same speed, different type of processor.

Although unlike the comparison above it probably won't outperform a G5 at certain tasks. :D

Still damn fast for a console though.
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Actually not even that. It's like the difference between a 2 GHz G5 and a 2 GHz Celeron. These things are extremely stripped down. They aren't even related to the G5 at all, they just share the PowerPC architecture.

Emulation is nearly impossible as well from what we've seen of the architecture, being in-order and all.


But put together, with three of them, yeah its pretty dang fast. The graphics part is the nice one.
 
Lacero said:
Price hasn't been set yet, but I believe the prices will be $399 or $449 at least. This is a product for those who already own an old game console and are looking to upgrade. $299 is just way too low for this sort of graphics powerhouse. Microsoft owns the PPC chip design so costs would be lower, but not by much.
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which is what I thought too, except on the MTV thing one of the few things that actually was informative was the mention of the $299 price being the sweet spot they were going for. I. Was. Very. Surprised.
 
ArcaneDevice said:
which is what I thought too, except on the MTV thing one of the few things that actually was informative was the mention of the $299 price being the sweet spot they were going for. I. Was. Very. Surprised.
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I expected it ;) $299 will get you an XBox 360 with no backwards compatability. no hard drive, none of the listed features because there is no HD to save stuff on unless you buy a big mem card (they are available in 64 MB), etc.

Buy the XBox at $299, then spend extra money on the hard drive and extras.
 
GFLPraxis said:
There is no price listed at all.

From every single leak and rumor and statement and the developer specs, the hard drive is sold seperately. Thats why it is detachable.

There will be one version with the hard drive bundled however (rumored anyway).
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they mention the $299 price point and included drive over at IGN as well.

http://gear.ign.com/articles/613/613266p1.html
 
My mistake 16 gigsamples = 4 gigapixels a sec , not impressed at all :( , this looks like they just threw X800 GPU and added SM 3.0


I guess i can't complain this GPU is still atleast 5X more powerful then the 1st Xbox's Geforce 3 GPU.
 
I believe the HD will be sold as an optional accessory. Hopefully with a HD, some portions of the game can be loaded onto it, so making game boot-ups near instantaneous. That's one the the flaws with the original XBox, it just took too long to load up.
 
Lacero said:
I believe the HD will be sold as an optional accessory. Hopefully with a HD, some portions of the game can be loaded onto it, so making game boot-ups near instantaneous. That's one the the flaws with the original XBox, it just took too long to load up.
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No 20GB HD is standard with every Xbox 360 , this is gonna be a great deal , and i agree M$ is taking a Huge hit by selling this console at $299.
 
GFLPraxis said:
:eek:

I'm having a hard time believing that is possible, sorry. Contradicts every word from Microsoft, every bit of information they've said, and would mean they are again selling at a huge loss.
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yep I agree. Somebody will have to watch the MTV thing again to confirm it (I'm not. once was enough) but I'm pretty sure they said in that as well that the 20GB drive will ship with the unit and the price they are going for is $299.

Taking a loss? Probably, but I'm betting they are expecting the Christmas sales to crank up their profit margins.
 
GFLPraxis said:
You are completely uninformed.

Firstly, IBM has a special PowerPC. It's in order (most chips are out of order), and far lacking in performance per MHz.

It is the only IBM chip that runs at over 3 GHz.

There are three of these in the XBox 360. Cheap little processors with a high clock speed.


The Cell has ONE 4 GHz PowerPC and four APU's. When they say "four core" only ONE core is a PowerPC.

We don't WANT these in a PowerMac.


YOU ARE MAC USERS! Don't you know the MHz Myth?
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HA! HA!

That was funny!

You are still talking about the MHZ MYTH and you are calling me uninformed???

GET REAL!

Fact is YOU KNOW NOTHING about either the Xenon or the PS3. Accept it!!

These products will be released late 2005 to early 2006 so they will need to be up to date with the technologies of that time.

And for heavens sake do you seriously think that the G5 is the best thing that IBM has to offer???

You must realize that IBM (much like AMD and Intel) has technologies in their labs, of which we will not hear for many years to come!!!

And for your information the MHZ MYTH was referring to the 867 MHz G4 compared to the 1.7 GHz P4. :p
 
mandis said:
HA! HA!

That was funny!

You are still talking about the MHZ MYTH and you are calling me uninformed???

GET REAL!

Fact is YOU KNOW NOTHING about either the Xenon or the PS3. Accept it!!

These products will be released late 2005 to early 2006 so they will need to be up to date with the technologies of that time.

And for heavens sake do you seriously think that the G5 is the best thing that IBM has to offer???

You must realize that IBM (much like AMD and Intel) has technologies in their labs, of which we will not hear for many years to come!!!

And for your information the MHZ MYTH was referring to the 867 MHz G4 compared to the 1.7 GHz P4. :p
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...I'm referring to the actual MHz Myth. Don't put words in your mouth. MHz Myth is NOT a phrase owned by Apple, it was coined by AMD in fact.

The MHz Myth is that MHz is equal to speed. IT'S NOT. I know FAR more about the XBox 360 than you do. You're being absolutely ridiculous. You ACTUALLY THINK that these are as good as a 3 GHz G5 just because of the clock speed!

I know the EXACT specs on the Xenon.

The XBox 360 processor is in order, nothing similar to the G5. It does less instructions per clock cycle (less work per Hz) than most processors on the market. Got it?
 
unbelievable? yes, fake? no.

Tech^salvager said:
"The specs are false. They were originally posted apparently by 'Aries'...except that Aries posted a page down that that poster was an imposter using his name. He stated repeatedly that he never posted specs. But people didn't read that far down and have been quoting those specs.


So ignore those specs.

The whole thing with Square Enix is a true quote though!"
thats to teh 4 g5 @ 2.5ghz thing
quoted from GFLPraxis
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/126191/
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I am guessing that http://www.xbox.com/en-US/xbox360/factsheet.htm is a Microsoft website. The specs are published there also.
 
GFLPraxis said:
...I'm referring to the actual MHz Myth. Don't put words in your mouth. MHz Myth is NOT a phrase owned by Apple, it was coined by AMD in fact.

The MHz Myth is that MHz is equal to speed. IT'S NOT. I know FAR more about the XBox 360 than you do. You're being absolutely ridiculous. You ACTUALLY THINK that these are as good as a 3 GHz G5 just because of the clock speed!

I know the EXACT specs on the Xenon.

The XBox 360 processor is in order, nothing similar to the G5. It does less instructions per clock cycle (less work per Hz) than most processors on the market. Got it?
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HA! HA! HA! HA!

Chill out mate!!

You take these threads far too seriously...

Why don't you go and have a muffin or something? ;)
 
GFLPraxis said:
...I'm referring to the actual MHz Myth. Don't put words in your mouth. MHz Myth is NOT a phrase owned by Apple, it was coined by AMD in fact.

The MHz Myth is that MHz is equal to speed. IT'S NOT. I know FAR more about the XBox 360 than you do. You're being absolutely ridiculous. You ACTUALLY THINK that these are as good as a 3 GHz G5 just because of the clock speed!

I know the EXACT specs on the Xenon.

The XBox 360 processor is in order, nothing similar to the G5. It does less instructions per clock cycle (less work per Hz) than most processors on the market. Got it?
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I'm a computer engineer, would you please tell me what the CPI is for the Xbox 360 PPC processor?

I didn't think so...

Don't spread crap about MHz myth and how much you know if you don't know the REAL specs of the hardware.
 
I don't think you can compare these machines with general purpose machines. Think of them like dragsters. They go real fast in a straight line, but they can't handle curves like a Porsche. This is not a criticism. When the only thing you want to do is process digital arrays in certain ways then it makes sense to streamline the hardware.
 
neutrino23 said:
I don't think you can compare these machines with general purpose machines. Think of them like dragsters. They go real fast in a straight line, but they can't handle curves like a Porsche. This is not a criticism. When the only thing you want to do is process digital arrays in certain ways then it makes sense to streamline the hardware.
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Well said.
 
The performance will probably equal about to a 1.8 GHz G5. If someone finds how to hack it and get it running OSX, thats pretty neat, as you have a box that is equivilant to a 1.8 GHz Single G5. :D
 
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