maflynn
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I have an Xbox X and a PS5, I use the PS5, not the Xbox. I think I missed the boat in trying to sell it. Its sitting there not doing anything at this point
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Xbox Series X (coming 10 Nov 2020)
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I wonder whether Ubisoft and ea play are a factor. As in do they renegotiate the wholesale price with ms very year or is there a 2-4% annual price hike baked into the agreement.
skottichan
macrumors 65816
Same here.
I had kept GP Ultimate as I've recently built a new gaming PC, but $30/months can get me a lot of games a year. Heck, I just spent that on Humble and got all the Alan Wake and Control stuff for PC for a little over $30.
Gamepass can be a false economy depending on what games are currently live and whether you enjoy them. A bit like Amazon Prime. Lots of shows and movies but maybe only 10% that you actually want to watch.
Sales on xbox, ubisoft, ea and steam stores are so frequent that you can for $15-20 buy games that you actually want to own and play instead of subbing to gamepass ultimate indefinately.
I will still subscribe to gamepass when Forza 6 is released, but probably only for a month to play the game until I get bored.
Big development!
www.theverge.com
Microsoft is about to launch free Xbox Cloud Gaming with ads
The free streaming is being tested internally at Microsoft
www.theverge.com
maflynn
macrumors Broadwell
Looks to be a free version like Geforce Now, so while Microsoft has penchant of putting ads into the OS, and other applications, its not doing anything different then offering a free tier just like nvidia.
Given the bad news its receiving with the price hike they're probably waiting until that brouhaha calms down, as this will most definitely be received negatively as well.
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I think they are following Netflix playbook. Make the premium tier more expensive and use it to edge consumers towards an ad supported tier.
Depending on how much a user gamer. You could generate $3-5 per month in ad revenue from them. Over a couple of years, this ads up.
maflynn
macrumors Broadwell
skottichan
macrumors 65816
Yeah, The price hike, plus what I was currently playing (Silksong) pretty much sealed the deal. I can wait until I get my gaming PC's motherboard replaced, then I'll just buy Silksong.
turbineseaplane
macrumors Penryn
I've tried so hard to get into both ..
I've owned and sold the XBX and PS5, both, twice now.
Finally, I admitted to myself, that I'm just not a console gamer anymore.
I would always end up with some irritation or edge case that I'd want to solve for by just using a PC instead. For me, often, it ended up being related to wanting to customize an input or get an add on of some kind (for MSFS for instance).
I really wish Sony would bring GT7 to PC.
It's the one thing I still miss, but not enough to have a PS5 just for that.
I am still likely to buy a windows based Xbox handheld as long as it has native support for steam os. However I will wait 1 year for the category to further mature.
Rumour mill. This one is spreading like wild fire on twitter. Too big for Xbox to not either confirm or deny in the next 7 days. They announced a collaboration with AMD 1-2 months ago. However when it comes to the fortune 100 businesses, they can invest billions into an acquisition or project, only to write it off or cancel within a year or even months.
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diamond.g
macrumors G5
It wouldn't be surprising if MS got out of the hardware business. Especially if all their 1st party games end up being multiplatform anyways.
How many of these rumors has MS denied, only for them to actually happen?
maflynn
macrumors Broadwell
I agree - Their quarterly financials are showing that the software side is incredibly profitable, but the hardware is dragging them down. Its quite likely they'll be exiting the hardware side, but will most likely look to license/brand other hardware items under the xbox moniker.
skottichan
macrumors 65816
I hate to say it, I'd hate to see MS leave the console business. Having it down to only two major players would leave is in a similar situation that we have with smartphones and tablets right now.
If I could have my dreams come true, I'd love to see Sega make a comeback, but the realist in me know that will never happen.
If I could have my dreams come true, I'd love to see Sega make a comeback, but the realist in me know that will never happen.
maflynn
macrumors Broadwell
Here's some insight regarding the price hike
This YTer is talking through the Bloomberg article (which seems to be behind a paywall) that states that Call Of Duty lost 300 million in sales due to it being on gamepass, but gamepass did not realize any substantial growth due to COD
Wasn't this the very argument that non-microsoft studios stated on why they didn't want to add their games to the subscription when the sub first came out.
TL;DR, subscription counts are not as high as they want, but that subscription is lowering game sales
This YTer is talking through the Bloomberg article (which seems to be behind a paywall) that states that Call Of Duty lost 300 million in sales due to it being on gamepass, but gamepass did not realize any substantial growth due to COD
Wasn't this the very argument that non-microsoft studios stated on why they didn't want to add their games to the subscription when the sub first came out.
TL;DR, subscription counts are not as high as they want, but that subscription is lowering game sales
skottichan
macrumors 65816
This honestly doesn't surprise me. Honestly, the only reason why I've kept PS+ is the lower price, and the 3 "free" games a month.
I hate to say it, but I think Sony's decision to not do Day 1 PS+ access is helping as well. If I knew like Hades 2 was going to be free to play on PSN, day one I don't think I would have been as motivated to buy it right away.
I think sony said in recent years that 75% of Playstation gamers only play 2 games.
This rings true for some of my friends who only play cod and fifa.
If you are a cod player. You will buy it regardless of whether it's on gamepass or not. It's not been sufficient to away gamers to buy an Xbox over Playstation because gamepass is not free and cod is not an xbod exclusive.
Attention is also a zero sum game. There are only so many big titles that consumers can play at any one time.
This rings true for some of my friends who only play cod and fifa.
If you are a cod player. You will buy it regardless of whether it's on gamepass or not. It's not been sufficient to away gamers to buy an Xbox over Playstation because gamepass is not free and cod is not an xbod exclusive.
Attention is also a zero sum game. There are only so many big titles that consumers can play at any one time.
It’s official. Halo is coming to PS5 next year.
The best Xbox is PS5 Pro:
The best Xbox is PS5 Pro:
maflynn
macrumors Broadwell
In all seriousness, what motivation is there to buy an Xbox, when exclusives are not longer?
Just for fairness, Sony has been bringing their games to the PC, after a while, but I think MS has been pushing this far greater and harder.
I know they tried to say that a new console is going to be coming, I do wonder if about it, and I do wonder if they really have the dedication to make a great console
Every leak and insider info and rumour states the same, the next Xbox will be expensive, a PC basically in a pretty box, will run Steam and EPIC stores etc, and will be more powerful then the PS6 but cost significantly more then the PS6 too. And with Sarah Bond recently stating in an interview the next Xbox will be offering a “very premium very high end curated experience” I think we can believe the rumours.
In all seriousness who will buy an expensive next xbox?
Casual gamers on series s won't upgrade since live service games will continue to be served on as many platforms as possible.
Series x owners are unlikely to buy it as they feel burnt that all exclusives are coming to ps5.
Ps5 owners won't buy it because they they will be able to play most major Xbox titles on ps5.
Pc gamers are unlikely to be interested if it cost almost as much mid range pc but is not upgradable or mod friendly.
diamond.g
macrumors G5
They will eventually just license out the xbox brand and let others make the hardware, like 3DO...
My guess is that all the studio aquisitions and gamepass day one gamepass release for many game, has not enticed people to buy an Xbox console.
Therefore MS not believes that the damage limitation for this is to generate incremental revenue by selling games on PS5. If the number becomes 10m games per year then that could be an incremental $500m + revenue from in game purchases and dlc.