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Any Chinese in the market for an iPhone will buy the real thing. Apple is killing it in China at the moment. It's an aspirational brand and Chinese with money don't want a copy.

I’d argue that mainland Chinese people generally see these as luxury items more than an aspirational brand similar to LV, Rolexes, etc. It’s why they get copied. From a feature perspective, there isn’t much to differentiate from the Xiao Mi.

One thing to realize about some of us Americans is they think everyone outside of the US thinks like them.
 
Yea, I just don't think that many people who prefer the iOS platform are jumping ship to a Chinese knock off. Someone who prefers Android and doesn't mind bouncing around from phone to phone, sure it makes sense. They see iPhone-like features on the cheap. Are these phones even sold in the US at this point?
That's an American sensibility. These phones aren't really for Americans. These phones are primarily for the Asian markets. In Asian markets, China specifically, the apps matter more than the hardware. In that regard, iOS holds no advantage. If someone can get their WeChat on iOS or Android and get the iPhone look for way less than an iPhone...
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Wait until the lawsuits start lmao
Lawsuit? In China? Against a Chinese company? lmao, indeed.:D:p
 
Really nice looking phone, because it’s copied the iPhone.
However Apple will not take any notice let alone take them to court as it’s not Samsung and not currently a major conpetitor, that’s the only real reason Apple takes Samsung to court, to kill the main competition.

I wouldn't be too sure about that. Xiaomi is the fastest growing smartphone manufacturer. They went from nothing to more than half of Apples marketshare in just a few years. (While Apple pretty much stayed the same)

Apple likely can't do much about it in China, but they will surely try in other regions.
 
I’d argue that mainland Chinese people generally see these as luxury items more than an aspirational brand similar to LV, Rolexes, etc. It’s why they get copied. From a feature perspective, there isn’t much to differentiate from the Xiao Mi.

One thing to realize about some of us Americans is they think everyone outside of the US thinks like them.
That's because the numbers say the Chinese flagship buyer does think like the US buyer. There have been hardware clones galore over the years, and iPhone keeps growing in China.

You're also forgetting just how much people want iOS, the biggest differentiator.

This Xiaomi Mi 8 is an absolute ripped off joke and you literally can't argue otherwise.
 
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That's an American sensibility. These phones aren't really for Americans. These phones are primarily for the Asian markets. In Asian markets, China specifically, the apps matter more than the hardware. In that regard, iOS holds no advantage. If someone can get their WeChat on iOS or Android and get the iPhone look for way less than an iPhone...
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Lawsuit? In China? Against a Chinese company? lmao, indeed.:D:p

Okay, wasn't sure if they were available in the US. Not sure why all the praise then.
 
Lets not pretend that apple couldn't sell the iphone X for $800-850 though and still make huge profits even accounting for R&D. When you sell as many phones as apple does, R&D ends up being an absolute miniscule cost of the phone.

Having said that I don't blame them for selling it at $1000 if people will still buy it at that price
You forgot one important thing, Apple had to calculate: risk. Now that the iPhone X is very popular, everyone is copying without the fear that the consumers won‘t buy it.
 
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I don't get it. Why can't they come up with any sort of original design? Either way, all it does is eat away at other Android manufacturer sales. No negative affect on Apple at all.

They are actually helping with Apple sales in China, I know few that bought XiaoMi phone said they loved it, and then 6 month later said it turned out to be POJ. Spyware, significant system slow down etc.
 
Xiaomi Has always been the most blatant in their copying of Apple. Disgusting.
 
LoL you are acting like the EU has a duty or responsibility towards Apple or something.
You are funny.
No, you’re just saying that I am. There’s a difference. If the EU wants no-rules capitalism, or enforced fairness and respect for rules and governance, it should be consistent. They give lip service to respecting IP, so let’s see how open the EU is to Chinese klepto-knockoffs. I don’t care if it’s Apple or anyone else they’re stealing from. Is the EU a market for stolen goods or isn’t it?
 
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Which is inferior to iPhone 8 CPU and GPU, as the support, ecosystem, App Store, materials, integration, security and go on.
When all you value is specs, all of the above can be disregarded. I suppose it has 6-8GB of RAM, like that One+. Woo hoo? Pixel 3 is apparently going to be super-impressive with a really nice, super huge notch.

btw it’s amazing how bad the bottom bezel looks on these clones; it really kills the full screen look.
 
Samsung has been trying desperately to establish their Android based smartphones as a high end alternative to the iPhone.

However, obvious ripoffs like this only serve to undermine that effort and establish any Android device as little more than a cheaper clone.
 
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Yo! The notch is in da houzzze. It's rather amusing how the feature that nearly everyone made fun of seems to be making its rounds on all flagship smartphones. I never saw what the big deal about having that sensor notch but it obviously upset a heck of a lot of tech people. I would have thought they would have been the people to understand why it existed. Oh, well... Apple will now have to come out with another feature on the iPhone that everyone hates just so the entire internet has something to complain about until the rest of the smartphone manufacturers start copying it.
 
It's a different culture over there. There doesn't seem to be any concept of IP so the manufacturers rip and build off of each other's designs. They honestly probably see nothing wrong with the Mi8's design but will likely never release it here knowing Apple will show the pants off them.
XiaoMi is loosing market shares in China too, don't let the company fool you, they are trying to IPO in Hong Kong, and they release some financial numbers and it turns out they have not been doing as well as they eluded to. They were growing fast their first 2 to 3 years, but there has been significant drop and they have not really recovered.. Their mass volume phone have been RedMi which is just a plain Android phone that sells for 800RMB, not their top end Apple copy phones..
 
Has someone actually used the under the screen fingerprint sensor? How well does it work in everyday use?
 
No, you’re just saying that I am. There’s a difference. If the EU wants no-rules capitalism, it shouldn’t post otherwise. They give lip service to respecting IP, so let’s see how open the EU is to Chinese klepto-knockoffs. I don’t care if it’s Apple or anyone else they’re stealing from. Is the EU a market for stolen goods or isn’t it?
What are you talking about?
This is getting ridiculous. What stolen goods? Ar you talking about the notch(not an Apple original concept anyway) and the vertical camera placement? because that is about it when it come to similarities.
I would be glad to see Apple trying to sue Xiaomi in Europe for the Mi 8 just to see this ridiculous vendetta about it being a knockoff put to rest. But Apple won't do it because they know they don't have a case.
And the Mi 8 will be officially available in Europe.
 
That's an American sensibility. These phones aren't really for Americans. These phones are primarily for the Asian markets. In Asian markets, China specifically, the apps matter more than the hardware. In that regard, iOS holds no advantage. If someone can get their WeChat on iOS or Android and get the iPhone look for way less than an iPhone...
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Lawsuit? In China? Against a Chinese company? lmao, indeed.:D:p
A lawsuit, with the plaintiff being Apple, and the defendant being Xioami. Lol. IP isn't just a USA thing :p
 
What are you talking about?
This is getting ridiculous. What stolen goods? Ar you talking about the notch(not an Apple original concept anyway) and the vertical camera placement? because that is about it when it come to similarities.
I would be glad to see Apple trying to sue Xiaomi in Europe for the Mi 8 just to see this ridiculous vendetta about it being a knockoff put to rest. But Apple won't do it because they know they don't have a case.
And the Mi 8 will be officially available in Europe.
From two feet away, the Mi 8 looks like an iPhone X. Period. Don’t admit it and you’ve tipped your hand. Don’t have a case? Now you’re being funny. Apple just won half a Billion dollars from Samsung for stealing design. What makes you think they couldn’t prevail again if they got as fed up as everyone else in this thread besides you?
 
From two feet away, the Mi 8 looks like an iPhone X. Period. Don’t admit it and you’ve tipped your hand. Don’t have a case? Now you’re being funny. Apple just won half a Billion dollars from Samsung for stealing design. What makes you think they couldn’t prevail again if they got as fed up as everyone else in this thread besides you?

I don't see how they could prove that the notch and vertical camera placement = original Apple concepts that everybody just outright copied.
Samsung even had a patent for the notch before Apple. LoL

So yes they don't have a case.


Also last I checked Apple's claims against Samsung weren't very successful in Europe. Funny you gave that example.

The Huawei P20 is officially available in Europe. When will apple sue Huawei? because I haven't seen any intension from Apple to do such a thing.
 
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