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Hopefully monitors will get edge-to-edge screens to, not really that important but would look awesome
like this
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we've been many saying this for a long time. what's up with that oversized bezel?! stupid. i would not say this phone is beautiful though - looks weird with the bezel in the bottom.
 
I'm confident Apple will blow us away with their version. This is what they do!

Come on Apple got on it

They might, but their version will be out 2 years after most Android phones have it. Like wireless charging in the 7s, waterproofing in the 7, Band 12 in the 6s, the larger screen in the 6, LTE connectivity in the 5, etc etc.
 
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don't get too sore about this guys. sure, xiaomi and other androids might copy apple design, but apple makes up for it by copying android features. like this screen. and widgets

now apple has at least a year to test out these xiaomis and decide what angles to put on it, and maybe call it iFinity or something inspiring and courageous
 
it enhance the functionality with that simple fact that you get a much larger screen on the equivalent smaller footprint. the same size as iphone 7+ you get vastly more screen estate. screen estate = value.

My first reaction was; so what? How does an edge-to-edge screen enhance the functionality? It's like when people complain that the iMac has an "ugly thick bezel" - that bezel helps to separate the content from your environment, and prevents you getting fingerprints on the active area.
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Since it runs Android why isn't the graphic comparing it to a Pixel? I mean the tech press said Pixel was the best Android phone ever. Wouldn't Xiaomi want to compare to the best?

We know why iPhone bezels currently exist. The home button isn't a trivial thing. In fact many complained about the iPhone 7 home button because it isn't a physical button being depressed and doesn't provide that satisfying 'click'. From a useability standpoint what makes a completely edgeless display better? It might look prettier but what makes it better? If I'm holding the phone in landscape mode won't my thumbs be converting up content?
As usual you just understand things.

This phone is all form sacrificing a lot of the function. There's a lot of tech in the iPhone outside the screen on the front.
Home Button
Ear Speaker
Front facing camera
Parts not screen so you can hold it without touching the screen in landscape
And more.

This new phone is just a proof of concept and nothing more.
 
There is no benefit, it's a gimmick. Edgeless offers nothing over the phone you have right now. And I will go as far as to say what a gigantic pain in the @ss it is to not have a bezel to grab on to.
Have you ever USED a bezel-less phone for an extended period of time... or at all?

Virtually all of the criticisms of this phone are based on what people THINK the experience will be like. I get it. Some people can only see the benefits when they have it. Just like power windows/doorlocks in a car... back in the day, it was an accessory that some felt was a gimmick... but once they owned a car with them, they never went back. :)
 
I have concerns about the edgeless concept-- after using iPhones since 2007 I was issued a Galaxy S7 from my employer (for business use) and have had repeated "palm contact" issues where simple handling causes the phone to think I am tapping things on the edges of the display. I presume that will get worse when edgeless. Yes, software can detect things like that, but no way close to all accidental contact on the periphery of the device.

One of the things I keep repeating, yet no Apple-fan would ever consider it a problem.

"You're just holding it wrong" they will say.

(Which will be the same line I will use when they drop their first bezel-less iPhone because they couldn't hold on to it right because of this.)
 
My first reaction was; so what? How does an edge-to-edge screen enhance the functionality? It's like when people complain that the iMac has an "ugly thick bezel" - that bezel helps to separate the content from your environment, and prevents you getting fingerprints on the active area.

Thank you !!! Finally someone said it !
 
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They might, but their version will be out 2 years after most Android phones have it. Like wireless charging in the 7s, waterproofing in the 7, Band 12 in the 6s, the larger screen in the 6, LTE connectivity in the 5, etc etc.

Oh you mean like when it actually works and it's just a gimmick?

I was talking to a kid I know about his phone which has wireless charging. He said it's the slowest possible way to charge the phone and the only reason he used it was because the micro-USB port broke on his phone and he rigged up a USB cable to connect the power wires directly to the wireless charging antenna to charge it faster.
 
It seems China experiments and the US molds it to perfection and cashes in on it. I can just imagine it happening. No huge media events with this thing, but wait when they announce a somewhat similar iphone 8... One thing I did notice is that while xiaomi is making its ui 8 more minimalistic and simple apple is adding useless functions on its os, like the new double starts screen and additional menus.
 
I have concerns about the edgeless concept-- after using iPhones since 2007 I was issued a Galaxy S7 from my employer (for business use) and have had repeated "palm contact" issues where simple handling causes the phone to think I am tapping things on the edges of the display. I presume that will get worse when edgeless. Yes, software can detect things like that, but no way close to all accidental contact on the periphery of the device.

I think this is what separates Apple from the rest. Remember when the original iPhone was introduced in 2007 and it had a face-detection sensor so the screen would turn off when raised up to the ear? Did any other "smart" phone have that feature? Now every one of them does. Apple cared enough about the user experience to consider this particular interaction. My general feeling is that many of the Android handset makers don't think about this. They simply photo-copy what's out there, and Apple has set the benchmark by which all such smartphones are based.

Enter edge-to-edge screens and we have the very issue that you describe — how to hold it without accidental input. iOS has built in palm-detection, but I don't think it's sufficient to meet Apple's standards when removing the side bezels entirely. This is likely why Apple is taking longer to introduce an edge-to-edge display.

I'm skeptical about the 2017 iPhone design. Physics alone, are one reason that many concepts just won't work in the real world. Pure-glass devices? We'd need an entirely new technology to take the place of silicon chips. Going to be interesting to follow this...
 
Is it foldable (permanent) like the Mi5? :D

In any case, there are good things about Xiaomi, mainly in their implementation of dual-SIM for their latest phones. Pretty much all dual-SIM phones (except the recent Xiaomi phones) have the second SIM only on 2G. Meaning you can have first SIM on 3G/LTE, but second SIM can only accept voice calls on 2G (low quality). Xiaomi phones starting with the Mi5 and Mi Max have the second SIM standing by on 3G, thus able to receive calls in better quality. It is quite important since some countries are already considering phasing out their 2G towers to convert them to LTE/5G, which will make dual-SIM phones into practically a single-SIM phone.
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I think this is what separates Apple from the rest. Remember when the original iPhone was introduced in 2007 and it had a face-detection sensor so the screen would turn off when raised up to the ear? Did any other "smart" phone have that feature? Now every one of them does. Apple cared enough about the user experience to consider this particular interaction. My general feeling is that many of the Android handset makes don't think about this. They simply photo-copy what's out there, and Apple has set the benchmark by which all such smartphones are based.

Enter edge-to-edge screens and we have the very issue that you describe — how to hold it without accidental input. iOS has built in palm-detection, but I don't think it's sufficient to meet Apple's standards when removing the side bezels entirely. This is likely why Apple is taking longer to introduce an edge-to-edge display.

I'm skeptical about the 2017 iPhone design. Physics alone, are one reason that many concepts just won't work in the real world. Pure-glass devices? We'd need an entirely new technology to take the place of silicon chips. Going to be interesting to follow this...
Yeah, Android is not good at palm/unintended touch rejection. I have used different Android phones with short lower bezels (Samsung, etc), and my palm always register as a touch on the lower corner.
 
My first reaction was; so what? How does an edge-to-edge screen enhance the functionality? It's like when people complain that the iMac has an "ugly thick bezel" - that bezel helps to separate the content from your environment, and prevents you getting fingerprints on the active area.

You're kidding right? Sounds like a very desperate attempt to defend Apple. Of course maximizing the usable real estate makes perfect sense. Don't worry - Apple will be fine despite being beat to new technologies repeatedly
 
"Concept phone" roughly translates to "can't blame us if this thing doesn't work".

Apple will test and release products when they're ready.

You're so not from this world. Gone are the days Apple is a phone leader! Accept it and don't blame others that do deliver of concepts. Apple is an overpriced follower with mediocre software and services.

By the time Apple releases this so called groundbreaking iPhone 8, we've seen it all before from the other competitors.
 
It's not edge to edge, not even on the 3 sides. It just has a very thin bezel. It ends up looking worse than the iPhone 7's bezel because it tries for something and fails.
 
I really want apple to eliminate the black border around the screen. The chin and forehead are ok with me but i would like edgeless on left and right margins. However that black line around screens always bothers me, this phone and iPhone included. I remember the old days of massive screens with huge like half inch black borders.

Anyway, I feel glad the industry is pushing borderless phones, i do think it's the future of things and i know apple will get the edge rejection bang on perfect once they get it sorted.
 
Other than the additional risk of breaking--a valid point--I don't get the hate over edgeless screens. The accidental registering of touches can be dealt with via software.

When I hold my iPhone 6S+ with one hand I cradle it in my palm and the only thing blocking the screen are my thumbs or fingers when typing or otherwise interacting with the screen. Come to think of it, that was a big deal when the iPhone was announced: "OMG your fingers will be blocking the screen just to use the thing, I'd rather a physical keyboard and dpad!" We all know how that turned out.

When I hold my 6S+ with two hands I again am not really blocking the edge of the (what could be) screen real estate with my hands. And even if I did, I doubt it would be horrific if I couldn't see the 8 gray pixels on the side of a contact page. Again, my fingers block much more but you don't notice it.

Where I do notice it is in action games were the bigger the screen the less impact my fingers would have on gameplay. When watching a video I would for sure appreciate the larger screen. Heck this Xiaomi phone seems to have a screen as large or large than many 7" tablets.

I should add that I just bought a Xiaomi mi box, an Android TV box (genuine Android TV) and right now it is my favorite streaming box. Got it at walmart for $69 with nearly as much of that price in freebie coupons/codes (e.g., two months free Sling TV). It doesn't feel cheap. I only mention this as it seems Xiaomi is now entering the US market, at least to some degree.



Mike
 
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