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The 8 Plus in that video looks like it has its brightness set higher, and he's tilting the XR more. Doesn't mean much to me.



I'm getting mine tomorrow, I'll judge with my own eyes and return if it's crap. Thanks for the helpful post!
Yep, like a normal unbiased consumer. He wants you to hate the device before you've even touched it based off of a video in which the person who pointed out the "issue" claims it's an insignificant problem and most people never notice it anyway.
 
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based off of a video in which the person who pointed out the "issue" claims it's an insignificant problem and most people never notice it anyway.

And the video is not really representative of the issue because it's not like both phones were at the same distance and angle relative to the camera.

News flash: it's harder to see something when it's not facing you. Shocking... :eek:
 
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And the video is not really representative of the issue because it's not like both phones were at the same distance and angle relative to the camera.

News flash: it's harder to see something when it's not facing you. Shocking... :eek:
Furthermore, the variation in the camera senor used to take the video of the comparison, plus the compression added on when uploading the video, will almost completely nullify what it actually looks like in person for something as slights as the color tinting. Basing your decisions on that video probably means you already made up your mind between the Xr or Xs even before watching the video.
 
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And the video is not really representative of the issue because it's not like both phones were at the same distance and angle relative to the camera.

News flash: it's harder to see something when it's not facing you. Shocking... :eek:

It's not only the video, it's what the Verge folk noticed himself, and that's why they got the video.

Sure, it may not be big deal, and may not be a problem for some, or even all of the users.

BUT, it is a regression, and you don't move forward in technology by regressing or saying, oh well, it's worse that previous release, no big deal. Constructive criticism is what drives perfection.

Being butthurt and shoving our heads in the sand doesn't do anybody a favor.

Otherwise we would still be in the good enough area of having inductive touchscreens and stylus and never see the iPhone revolution.
 
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it is a regression, and you don't move forward in technology by regressing or saying, oh well,

One could argue SSDs were a regression. We went from storing terabytes back to gigabytes with (initially) shorter MTTF. Does this translate directly to a display? Maybe. Apple’s using a newer technology that significantly reduces the bezel from previous LCDs. I'm willing to see where it goes.

At the end of the day, if someone doesn't like it they don't have to buy it. I don't think this issue is a big deal but I'll reserve final judgment till I see one in person .
 
One could argue SSDs were a regression. We went from storing terabytes back to gigabytes with (initially) shorter MTTF. Does this translate directly to a display? Maybe. Apple’s using a newer technology that significantly reduces the bezel from previous LCDs.

If that's indeed the reason, then it's a fair point.
 
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If you’re buying XR you’re not focused on screen quality anyway as the xs and xs max is where the best screen is anyway.
Why should you have to pay £1k+ in 2018 to get a screen that is equal or better than an 8+ in a new iPhone though?

There’s a lot of people who are long term iPhone users who remember the days when to get the best iPhone the premium was £750 and that came with a 1080p screen. It takes the piss that you can get Android equivalents now cheaper which sport OLED and Apple now expect you to pay a grand or they offer a lower res 828ppi screen for £750. It’s not like the XR is cheap either, it’s just cheaper than the XS and sadly the tech snobs have adopted a mindset where it’s suddenly fine to offer a sub par component because ‘people can just pay a grand’ if they want better.
 
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Haters gonna hate, hate, hate, hate, hate!
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People act as if Apple is forcing people to buy their phones. Is something like off axis color shift bothers someone, then either A. Skip this generation and buy an older device or wait until next year or B. Find another manufacturer that doesn't produce devices with the same issue.
It’s quite sad we’ve gone from admiration and a thirst for the latest iPhone to weighing up a list of compromises though don’t you think? I never thought a few years ago I’d be buying the previous years device because the current one is not quite good enough.
 
It’s quite sad we’ve gone from admiration and a thirst for the latest iPhone to weighing up a list of compromises though don’t you think? I never thought a few years ago I’d be buying the previous years device because the current one is not quite good enough.
What an amazing option to have though! Apple's products are so good that you can literally buy last year's device and still be current with technology!
 
It’s quite sad we’ve gone from admiration and a thirst for the latest iPhone to weighing up a list of compromises though don’t you think? I never thought a few years ago I’d be buying the previous years device because the current one is not quite good enough.
That's capitalism (and to an extent inflation) for you! It always sucks that prices are going up and quality seemingly goes down a bit (not just iPhones either), but apparently Apple has a track history to be able to weather something like this... and if people are buying them in droves, why would they stop?
 
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You along with tens of millions of other iPhone/iPad users. You never realized it because you weren't looking for a problem. You use the device as it was designed to be used so no problem for you.

The people that tend to find a problem are the ones that are trying to get a mass produced device to work in their small, non-typical use case. If it doesn't perform the way they perceive it should, they should take their search and their hard-earned dollars elsewhere.

The average user will find no problems with off-axis tint-shift, 326 ppi, slightly larger bezels, or any of the other supposed faults flying around these forums.

I say this as an iPhone X user with no intention of buying a XR. If I didn't already have the X, you bet I would probably get the XR. More bang for the buck to me.

Fully agreed. And, as an iPhone X user myself - I love the idea of the XR and think it will be an excellent option. Heck, I ordered one for my wife and was thinking about it for myself as well.
 
just got my iphone XR and the tilt-dimming problem is quite apparent in comparison to my previous 3 yrs old sonny phone that also has an LCD screen. this is my first iphone and i dont have previous LCD iphones around me so i cant compare them atm
 
Yes! Now that the device is in the Wild for the general public are you seeing the same extent of tint shift that the verge did? Would be curious
 
Yes! Now that the device is in the Wild for the general public are you seeing the same extent of tint shift that the verge did? Would be curious

unfortunately, yes. it shifts from yellowish to bluish. but i doubt it'll be a problem to me. i dont care much about such things
 
I’m very concerned about tiny shift and dimming. I had a brief chance to try a XS yesterday and it didn’t seem like a big deal. I hope to have a better trial soon.
 
Just got my XR. The tint shift is pretty minimal to me and I don’t really see it in the portrait plane. I will see if the 2nd device we received is comparable later today. I don’t foresee it being noticeable in normal usage at all. I’m coming from a 7 plus and the XR screen looks more vibrant and is definitely brighter.
 
Just got my XR. The tint shift is pretty minimal to me and I don’t really see it in the portrait plane. I will see if the 2nd device we received is comparable later today. I don’t foresee it being noticeable in normal usage at all. I’m coming from a 7 plus and the XR screen looks more vibrant and is definitely brighter.

I agree with this. I’m not noticing much of a difference in the tint shift from what I see on my 8+.
 
Mine arrived this afternoon. I haven't used it much but my initial impression is that the screen is fine and all the fuss circulating the internet is for nothing. It's not the XS/Max or Plus quality, for sure, but it's still quite good. Colours look nicer than the old 6 I've been using lately. It's the same PPI as the 6/7/8 models; I can see the pixels at a normal viewing distance but not enough to bother me (I have 20/15 vision with glasses).

Bezels are larger than the XS/Max and even larger than the 6's left/right; however, I rather like a little more bezel.

Off-axis viewing was dimmer but I did not observe any significant colour change... by "off-axis" I mean I really off-axis: I turned it slowly to the point where I couldn't even make out what was on the screen. The off-axis viewing was basically the same as my 2nd gen. iPad Pro 12.9". Frankly, I'm wondering if The Verge got a gimp unit.
 
I don’t notice much tint shift either. The reflections off the screen shows up way before the tint starts shifting.

Edit: My XR definitely doesn’t shift as much as The Verge’s unit. I actually barely see tint shift on mine.
 
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XR should have an oled display. Other phones costing half the price have 1440p superior oled display. Apple is cheapskate by giving the lowest of the low end 800p LCD display which you find on $100 throw away phone

 
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