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Sadly people have become so used to issues with Apple products that they now fish for them and create "problems" that don't truly exist.
 
Just wanted to add that it is in no way confirmed that all or even most XR phones shift of axis. Apple is notorious for panel variability especially around launch. Verge could have gotten a rogue display.

With that said, if my XR shifts of axis or has yellow tint its going right back and I'm rocking the 8+ another year. I was already choking on the PPI downgrade.
 
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Just wanted to add that it is in no way confirmed that all or even most XR phones shift of axis. Apple is notorious for panel variability especially around launch. Verge could have gotten a rogue display.

With that said, if my XR shifts of axis or has yellow tint its going right back and I'm rocking the 8+ another year. I was already choking on the PPI downgrade.
One reviewer said it was more yellow than the XS. But true tone was enabled.
 
Just wanted to add that it is in no way confirmed that all or even most XR phones shift of axis. Apple is notorious for panel variability especially around launch. Verge could have gotten a rogue display.

With that said, if my XR shifts of axis or has yellow tint its going right back and I'm rocking the 8+ another year. I was already choking on the PPI downgrade.

I've seriously struggled with whether to upgrade from my 8+ at all, especially since I had to return the Max due to headaches - I had pretty much made up my mind just to stick with the 8+ - then the dang XR pre-orders started, and after messing with my daughter's XS, I just REALLY like the idea of something a bit smaller overall.

I'm hoping the display issue will turn out to be a moot point.
 
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My 6 Plus has zero off-axis color shift. It's the same color all the way out to 170° rotation (after that I can't see the screen because reflection off the glass.

It is my conclusion (which many may disagree with, but I'll hold fast, that the iPhone screens this year on the X series are the worst since the 3GS.

Never before have some people been unable to even look at an eye-phone for a few minutes without getting eye-strain on the X & XS series, (not to mention the off axis color shift) and now our last hope in the XR has this crappy off axis color shift that makes an iPhone 5 screen seem superior.
2018 (in my book) wil go down as Apple's worst iPhone release ever.
We've never had problems like this before.
 
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Definitely does. Interesting considering this was a big reason people kept touting the LCD as an advantage. For me, I don't use my phone like that so I don't notice.
 
My 6 Plus has zero off-axis color shift. It's the same color all the way out to 170° rotation (after that I can't see the screen because reflection off the glass.

It is my conclusion (which many may disagree with, but I'll hold fast, that the iPhone screens this year on the X series are the worst since the 3GS.

Never before have some people been unable to even look at an eye-phone for a few minutes without getting eye-strain on the X & XS series, (not to mention the off axis color shift) and now our last hope in the XR has this crappy off axis color shift that makes an iPhone 5 screen seem superior.
2018 (in my book) wil go down as Apple's worst iPhone release ever.
We've never had problems like this before.

I think many will strongly disagree with your assessment. Apple decides success by sales and anyone that thinks the XS, XS Max and XR won't sell enough to make them a nice big fat profit is kidding themselves.

To compare current screen to previous screens or even to compare the XR to the XS and XS Max makes zero sense to me. Each phone stands on their own and people will either buy it or the won't. Rather it has off axis color shift, rather it has less resolution will end up being a moot point. The issue with eye-strain isn't just on Apple OLED phones. So based on your summation that means those phones no just iPhones are the worse phones ever release too.

I think each person has to judge each phone based on their own preferences, needs and desires. What anyone else thinks or feels about it based specs or opinion doesn't matter. The only opinion that matters is the person buying the phone. Drawing a conclusions based on anything but owning and/or at least using the phone just doesn't count in my book.
 
Sadly people have become so used to issues with Apple products that they now fish for them and create "problems" that don't truly exist.

I have to agree with you. If there are potential hardware issues or defects that are immediately noticeable, then of course I would address that and have the device return or exchange. For those who make it a mission to find things ‘wrong’ with a phone intentionally just for the sake of creating some counter argument about why Apple products are inferior, Only create problems for themself. (I’m not referring to anyone in this thread for the matter.)
 
I don’t look at my phone from the side. As far as screen difference heard most people won’t even notice. If you hold them side by side maybe. I need a bigger phone due to retinal issue. Can’t bite the $1000 model. Can’t wait until Friday for my new phone. Leaving 8 for XR. Might miss the home button though.
 
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Just wanted to add that it is in no way confirmed that all or even most XR phones shift of axis. Apple is notorious for panel variability especially around launch. Verge could have gotten a rogue display.

With that said, if my XR shifts of axis or has yellow tint its going right back and I'm rocking the 8+ another year. I was already choking on the PPI downgrade.
If your eyes can’t differentiate the lower pixel on the small screen, why is the tech spec ppi so important?
 
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If your eyes can’t differentiate the lower pixel on the small screen, why is the tech spec ppi so important?

That’s a fair argument ...

But why did people opt for plus over regular? Or x/xs max over plus?

A nicer screen had to have factored in

We’re the 401 and 441 ppi specs that Apple touted just duping us into forking over more cash? It would appear that’s the implication. And calling X “Super Retina” — is that just false marketing then?
 
That’s a fair argument ...

But why did people opt for plus over regular? Or x/xs max over plus?

A nicer screen had to have factored in

We’re the 401 and 441 ppi specs that Apple touted just duping us into forking over more cash? It would appear that’s the implication. And calling X “Super Retina” — is that just false marketing then?
I’m going to say 80+% of Apple customers, the non techie types, saw a bigger screen and liked that it was bigger. That’s been my experience with everyone I’ve spoken to about their Plus phone. Most people have no idea what PPI even refers to.

I think we forget on these forums that we’re a different kind of people. Most people have never joined a forum of any type, let alone a tech one.
 
That’s a fair argument ...

But why did people opt for plus over regular? Or x/xs max over plus?

A nicer screen had to have factored in

We’re the 401 and 441 ppi specs that Apple touted just duping us into forking over more cash? It would appear that’s the implication. And calling X “Super Retina” — is that just false marketing then?
For some, size is very important.

As to the Apple media presentation of the phones, it comes down to marketing. And the way they conduct their marketing for the different phones, caters to different financial segments of the customer base. Samsung and others do the same thing.

There are many here, who live and die by specs. And reading the forums on a daily basis, they manage to convince themselves, that they can do the impossible (differentiating pixel density with the human eye on such a small screen).

I think the XR will make a lot of people happy. if I didn't use 3D Touch and portrait mode (even without human face) as well as liking the bigger 6.5" inch screen, I would probably give the XR an honest test drive.

I think it is very important to remember, that MacRumors land is not appreciative of the real-world average consumer. This forum houses such a very small super niche, that many regulars have probably come to believe that what they see posted here day after day is representative when it really isn't.

Edited to add: In regards to the tilt, that is not really representative of what I would view as normal use. As such, I don't think people should write off the XR, or start getting buyers remorse all because of someone holding the phone at an odd and usual angle. If the color changed with normal use, that is something that certainly should be discussed and addressed.
 
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I’m very curious how well (or poorly) True Tone will be implemented on the XR. I couldn’t stand it on the X and don’t like it on the XS. It was perfect on the 8 and my old iPad Pro. Maybe TT is better optimized for LCD.
 
My 6 Plus has zero off-axis color shift. It's the same color all the way out to 170° rotation (after that I can't see the screen because reflection off the glass.

It is my conclusion (which many may disagree with, but I'll hold fast, that the iPhone screens this year on the X series are the worst since the 3GS.

Just so I'm clear on this, because your 6 Plus has zero off-axis color shift, the new screens that you've never seen in person are the worst since 3GS?

Yeah, that's a logical, scientific conclusion. Congratulations.
 
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Just so I'm clear on this, because your 6 Plus has zero off-axis color shift, the new screens that you've never seen in person are the worst since 3GS?

Yeah, that's a logical, scientific conclusion. Congratulations.

People make assumptions with the data they have available at the time. Of course when we get this babies on our hands on Friday, all opinions stated until then will be re-evaluated.

But from the Verge review, it does seem that XR has color shift, so I don't blame him for his statement.
 
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I don’t Mean to be dismissive of anyone’s opinion, but none of this is going to matter to the average consumer when they purchase this phone. They don’t even know what ‘Tint shift’ is, Which means that they won’t Understand what to look for. Maybe to those who are actually ‘tech educated’, they know what to look for by reading forums like this, but to the majority, it’s likely irrelevant.
 
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For some, size is very important.

As to the Apple media presentation of the phones, it comes down to marketing. And the way they conduct their marketing for the different phones, caters to different financial segments of the customer base. Samsung and others do the same thing.

There are many here, who live and die by specs. And reading the forums on a daily basis, they manage to convince themselves, that they can do the impossible (differentiating pixel density with the human eye on such a small screen).

I think the XR will make a lot of people happy. if I didn't use 3D Touch and portrait mode (even without human face) as well as liking the bigger 6.5" inch screen, I would probably give the XR an honest test drive.

I think it is very important to remember, that MacRumors land is not appreciative of the real-world average consumer. This forum houses such a very small super niche, that many regulars have probably come to believe that what they see posted here day after day is representative when it really isn't.

Edited to add: In regards to the tilt, that is not really representative of what I would view as normal use. As such, I don't think people should write off the XR, or start getting buyers remorse all because of someone holding the phone at an odd and usual angle. If the color changed with normal use, that is something that certainly should be discussed and addressed.

I agree with this honestly. For me I'm a tech enthusiast but on a budget so I have to pick and chose which tech to get based on cost.

At work during breaks and lunches my co-workers have been letting me test drive their X, XS and XS Max and I must say I really love the OLED displays. Out of the three I would go with the XS Max because I really like the size of the screen.

The XR for me has everything I'm looking for in a iPhone in terms of battery life, storage, RAM, specs and wireless charging. I'm just unsure about the LCD display but my doubts have been going away as the reviews have come in.

However I want to test drive this phone in my actual life to see how it lives up and not in a store. I'm gonna compare it to my 6s+ and my mom's 7+. My co-workers are who love iPhones way more than me want to see the XR as well and one guy is going to bring in his previous 8+ so we can compare those displays as well.

After all this testing if I'm not totally happy with the XR by next Wednesday, which is my next day off, I will make a 2 hour drive to the Apple Store to swap out the XR for the XS Max.

If I keep the XR then with my budget I can go ahead and get an Apple Watch Series 4. If I swap it for the XS Max then I have to hold off on getting the Apple Watch for a while longer. This is another reason for me wanting to give the XR a chance because I really want an Apple Watch.
 
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Well, for some reason when reading this thread on my 2017 iPad Pro I decided to tilt the device and sure enough there’s some decent colour shift. Honestly 16 months with it and I had never realized.

I guess what I remember from years ago with early iPhones was more of a significant tint shift and the display being nearly dark at certain viewing angles.
 
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XR has clearly been a cost cutting excercise. It's a relatively expensive phone from Apple, which has been built to meet the expectations of most people.

If one deeply cares about viewing angles, then maybe iPhone 7 or 8 is a better choice. Or if the latest design is more important then the previous models simply won't do.
 
Well, for some reason when reading this thread on my 2017 iPad Pro I decided to tilt the device and sure enough there’s some decent colour shift. Honestly 16 months with it and I had never realized.

I guess what I remember from years ago with early iPhones was more of a significant tint shift and the display being nearly dark at certain viewing angles.
You along with tens of millions of other iPhone/iPad users. You never realized it because you weren't looking for a problem. You use the device as it was designed to be used so no problem for you.

The people that tend to find a problem are the ones that are trying to get a mass produced device to work in their small, non-typical use case. If it doesn't perform the way they perceive it should, they should take their search and their hard-earned dollars elsewhere.

The average user will find no problems with off-axis tint-shift, 326 ppi, slightly larger bezels, or any of the other supposed faults flying around these forums.

I say this as an iPhone X user with no intention of buying a XR. If I didn't already have the X, you bet I would probably get the XR. More bang for the buck to me.
 
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