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The only reason I don’t have a dual or triple 32” laptop is how bulky and impossible that would be. With a VisionPro, I can have that in my middle coach airline seat. Even if it does nothing else, just effective, not clunky virtual multi-monitor support is worth the price of admission to me (assuming the displays are as good as claimed, of course)
Man oh man do we ever have some massive Kool-Aid drinking going on in here
A Bluetooth keyboard is almost weightless and very compact. Nowhere as bulky as an entire laptop. There's no way I'll think bringing just a keyboard is in any way comparable to bringing an entire laptop. Granted, the Vision Pro+keyboard could be the same weight as a small laptop. But the advantage of the VP is it can project a much larger screen than you get with a laptop. Battery life is a problem, yes. I suppose you could bring additional battery packs, but that does add to the bulk and weight. Something I hope gets improved in the future.
Your last sentence says it all for you: "I don’t really want to live in that world anyways." You are assuming all kinds of things yet to happen and then assigning negativity to the new tech accordingly. It is one approach for sure, but I take the opposite approach and seek out all the positive things the new tech may facilitate; how I may create with the new tech.
So bring along a keyboard and extra battery packs…. And this is somehow preferable to just bringing a MacBook Air?
I agree with the early reviews… this remains a solution struggling to find a true problem to solve (for now)
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Yeah, no, I can't afford it
it is always fun to see these posts, where they keep on trying to make excuses why the product is useless, and they would not need/buy it.
It's a shame MacBook keyboards are good again otherwise there could have been a joke in there. I would imagine Macs and Vision Pro will live along side each other for a while before any replacing starts happening. It's a platform in search of features IMO.
You say "Most importantly though AR glasses obscure your vision." The intro video suggests otherwise. Sure the AR process means vision is different, but IMO obscured is too strong a word. We will of course need to get our hands on 2024 production versions to see just how well the cameras work (or do not work).
Note that state-of-the-art in cameras is mirrorless, no longer through-the-lens DSLR, and the quality of the (not direct) image seen through a high end Nikon viewfinder is unequivocally excellent. I see no reason Apple will not approach that excellent level of performance in their Vision Pro offering.
Also note that lots of folks like me have been paying $5k+ for pro cameras then adding $1k+ lenses for years. All the silly comments whining about US$3500 price fail to grasp how much expensive state-of-the-art tech is being provided in the Vision Pro. [Edit: not to say price does not limit users and usages; it does. But there will be many users and usages not overly sensitive to US$3500 price.]
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Have you guys seen the polling on Twitter? Ouch!
That’s my experience with Playstation VR2. It was mindblowing, at first. Being fully immersed in Gran Turismo 7 with a racing rig. The idea of having a giant, resizable screen to watch your favourite streaming service. The wow effect is now gone. I sometimes use it on the weekends. I’m glad I have it, but it didn’t change the way how I consume things. I’ll much rather watch Netflix/HBO/Apple TV on my tv. It’s more social, comfy and cozy way to watch.
I know it’s not best VR example with its 2K per eye OLED screen. It’s wired only and PS5 is the OS. But I feel I’d need to become super rich first before I could get excited to explore Apple Vision, only to get inevitably bored by it a week later.
Because this is a discussion forum…for discussion. If you don’t like the topic, why bother commenting on it?
I’m with you, the iPhone launch presentation was much better. An all time great. Steve was sorely missed yesterday. But there’s a clear use case presented here. It’s a “movie theater, large format mobile computer, and a room scale video communications device” all in one. Those three uses map pretty well to the original iPhone pitch:
“touch screen iPod “ = “movie theater”
“Revolutionary internet communicator” = “large format mobile computing”
“A phone” = “room scale video communications device”
This is pitched very much as the iPhone of HMDs. Will it succeed in this form or be remembered more as the newton of HMDs than the iPhone? Time will tell, but don’t let a personal resistance to change cloud that the pitch for this and the iPhone are basically the same. I’d bet we see something like a VisionAir with actual pass through lenses and more glasses like form factor before 2028, and it will be better when it comes out for the insights gained by VisionPro usage and development.
It's the end of screens, TVs, laptops, cell phones, watches, speakers, movie theaters, etc. /s
This isn’t really an ouch. That’s already like $14million dollars from a few folk on Twitter.
To be honest, this is the only thing that has ever enticed me about VR. I loved Gran Turismo 3/4 back on PS2, had a whole cockpit I built myself with a Logitech wheel and pedals with surround sound and everything. The idea of condensing that into a headset that is fully immersive makes me giddy. But I've never played 7, and I don't own a PS5 so the idea hasn't been something I've been willing to entertain.
I agree that for probably 80% or more of people that do end up buying this thing, they'll use it for a week or two and then it'll sit. It's all on developers to make this thing worthwhile. I recognize there are niche uses for this with its currently advertised functions, but they are not enough for it to be a revolution in its own right. New applications are necessary.
It’s much more chill game than previous titles that had "real" campaigns (I could never finish GT3 one). It’s mostly about learning history of/collecting cars. With some Online races if you want to drive yourself mad.
The seat rig I got was 2nd hand. That would explain after a while, some people realise it’s not worth their investment. It’s a risk you take when getting a novelty tech. I feel AR/VR have and will continue to have the hardest time of all new tech to become our daily drivers.
But MacBook Air is limited to just one 15/13 inch screen. Vision Pro gives you multiple screens in any size you want.
it is though? Not immediately, but it signals the end. VHS movies were being released when BluRay launched, 9 years after DVD. DVDs are still released today, decades into streaming and HD content. Vinyl outsells the CDs that replaced it. But despite that all those formats are over. VHS died in the 90's, DVD in the 2000s, CDs in the 2000s, Vinyl by about 1990. They're dead, killed by progress, but still in use. 2D screens are now on borrowed time as the primary way to use content, realistically they have been for years, but the VisionOS launch has made that timeline much more clear and real to many people. When you can get a VisionAir pass through AR glasses device for under $2k in the late 2020s, who will also buy a cellphone, a mac, an ipad, a watch, a TV, or anything else? The VisionAir can and will be any screen you need or want at anytime, plus allow for experiences 2D media can never match (watch the game "courtside" while on a train 2000 miles away? why not!)
I'm not flashing a $3500 piece of electronic toy in a public space for it to be stolen. I don't even like taking my phone out that much in public.
Wow. 16% buyers is a huge favorable percentage for such a not-really-known, expensive device. Apple should be thrilled (except of course we do not know the characteristics of the by-definition-not-random cohort voting).
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That’s sort of my whole problem with this thing. To be a “yaysayer”, you have to not only think this device is appealing and cool and useful, you also have to think that it will some day replace every single piece of tech you currently own. It’s understandable why this is a tall order for some. I think it’s even more so for me because I’m a bit younger than many people here. I didn’t grow up with old obsolete tech that people now see as quaint. I grew up with iPhones and MacBooks, which I still use to this day. And now you’re telling me that’s all going to go away. Here’s the thing though: I listen to vinyl and use wired headphones and read physical books. I’m not looking to replace everything I do with a “new” method because those “new” methods aren’t necessarily superior. I’m sure I will “go with the times”, but I’m someone who has always seen a use for older things. This new tech can’t just be new and different, it also has to be better. It remains to be seen if it actually is.