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Okay, listen, I respect the work that went into this. I can also respect this is a kind of beta hardware for something that might be practical one day in the future. Apple can totally afford to play around with ideas. So, I'm not knocking them for working on this.

However, let's be honest. How many people want to wear this thing on their head instead of watching their 65" OLED TV (or bigger for the price of this thing)? Who wants to take this on a trip instead of a trusty MacBook Pro that has 16 hours of battery life? Who wants to use this thing to write forum posts? Who wants to use this thing to do much of anything? Not me.

In fact there is only one thing I can see this being useful for given the battery life, but they aren't going to market it for that.
This is the point where the mainstream Macrumors enthusiast becomes a boomer and technology progresses past them. Clearly not a product for you, but society will move on without you.
 
I love OLED. Hard to look at anything else after you have used a quality OLED display.

I need to try this headset in person before making a decision. Really need to see and experience how good the optics are.
This .. I’m reserving judgement until I try it.
 
Okay, listen, I respect the work that went into this. I can also respect this is a kind of beta hardware for something that might be practical one day in the future. Apple can totally afford to play around with ideas. So, I'm not knocking them for working on this.

However, let's be honest. How many people want to wear this thing on their head instead of watching their 65" OLED TV (or bigger for the price of this thing)? Who wants to take this on a trip instead of a trusty MacBook Pro that has 16 hours of battery life? Who wants to use this thing to write forum posts? Who wants to use this thing to do much of anything? Not me.

In fact there is only one thing I can see this being useful for given the battery life, but they aren't going to market it for that.

Well, for starters it seems like this device can create an image the size of an IMAX screen. And yes, this is a test device. You can’t do everything in your own lab, this one has to go out to the public and the developers to play around with. In 4-5 years we will see the miniaturization progress and that’s when the real revolution starts. Having AR glasses and a virtual work space with windows floating in your view - this has recently just been science fiction. Now it’s on the horizon. And this bulky prototype will level the ground.
 
Well I’d try using one instead of sitting in my Home Cinema.
Much cheaper than buying a new JVC projector by a long shot.

Battery life won’t matter for those using it as productivity tool (monitors) as it will be plugged in.
E.g. if ZBrush make a Mac version that allows me to sculpt in 3D while viewing in 3D - that will be awesome.

Battery life will be fine for workouts such as on my rowing machine when the inevitable rowing apps arrive.
Would you really want to sweat in it ?
It would be awesome for Zwift (cycling app) if sweat wasn't involved
 
I think people are assuming this device is currently aimed at mainstream domestic users but it clearly isn't. Sure, tech enthusiasts will buy it and beta test all the new technology, but this product is clearly aimed at developers and technology businesses. Apple now the average Apple user is not going to spend £4000 ($3500) on a VR headset at this point in time, and not for a first gen product. In a few years time this product will be more affordable and maybe more people will try it.

VR is something I have had a go with, but isn't something I've been interested in investing in. It is a very solo experience and those with families would have to have multiple devices for this sort of thing to be inclusive. A friend of mine bought the Sony PS5 VR system earlier in the year and within a month he was selling it. He paid £540 for it and had trouble selling it, with it eventually going for £380 through Facebook Marketplace. I think these sorts of devices at this point in time are viewed as a gimmick and its now the job of these companies to change that perception and deliver to the mass market. A £4000 device clearly isn't aimed at doing that though.
 
So I’m not the only one that was freaking out (not in a good way) when they were demoing this??

“Capture your kids birthday party so you can relive the moment like you’re there in 3D” as daddy approaches the kids with a computer strapped to his face

I really do not know how to feel about this product but it’s mostly negative feelings
Exactly my feelings.
I'm pretty excited about this device, but that example was so sad.

I feel like what matters isn't that you can relive it, what matters it that your kid lives it with you, not the Daft Punk version of you.
 
It looks dorky. Or like skuba diving gear.

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That’s a pretty optimistic view of capitalism. Apple wants to move units. Period. If it comes at the expense of mental health, it’s just business. It’s not just apple, it’s what companies are in business for.
Apple has no real interest in our mental health. Talking about it is a pure marketing tool. Hard to believe that some folks believe otherwise.
 
At this price I'd like to assume you get one set included, but I know better than to assume apple will have any mercy for consumer pocketbooks.
For the price they are asking I would agree but I know that they will only want to stick us for them. Anyway I never use those as my glasses are so thick and having cataracts I can just save money take a pass on the those sky goggles.
 
Apple has no real interest in our mental health. Talking about it is a pure marketing tool. Hard to believe that some folks believe otherwise.
They want you to be in that uncanny valley of mental health where you're still able to earn money but use it to subscribe to all their services and buy craptons of new Apple devices each year. ;)
 
Okay, listen, I respect the work that went into this. I can also respect this is a kind of beta hardware for something that might be practical one day in the future. Apple can totally afford to play around with ideas. So, I'm not knocking them for working on this.

However, let's be honest. How many people want to wear this thing on their head instead of watching their 65" OLED TV (or bigger for the price of this thing)? Who wants to take this on a trip instead of a trusty MacBook Pro that has 16 hours of battery life? Who wants to use this thing to write forum posts? Who wants to use this thing to do much of anything? Not me.

In fact there is only one thing I can see this being useful for given the battery life, but they aren't going to market it for that.
It's horseless carriages all over again. What a joke.
 
Yeah, if it doesn’t appeal to you, don’t buy it. Nobody is holding a gun to your head. What’s the point of creating a thread about it?

This is the first iteration that will mostly appeal to early adopters (like me). Every subsequent iteration of this product will appeal to a broader audience as it matures, just like iPhone.
You need to understand that for every product that Apple released there will be at least one thread with people coping and making excuses that they don't like the product but in reality they drool for it but can't buy it because reasons. It is what it is.
 
I bet people thought this about headphones at first.

I bet people thought this about their HomePod. Or ping. Or Apple TV the hobby. Or mobile me. Or pippin. Or newton. Or iPod hifi. Or Lisa.

I can keep going.

Most just point out iPhone. This isn’t anything like iPhone. Smartphones were taking off. Blackberry was king. Anyone with a brain could see the iPhone was special.

Just like most see this headset as more like apples history of flops than iPhone. Analysts are downgrading the stock. It was a classic sell the news event.

Apple needs to focus on AI and replace siri. Along the way they need to start providing some essential software or services. Was the gaming part of the event supposed to be some kind of effort?

Apples hardware to me is great. Top of line chips. And absolutely nothing I can do with it for business or productivity. Or gaming. Unless I can run windows on it.

Not saying apple is doomed. They’re an iPhone company. Never forget it. That’s their claim to fame. Along with App Store and developers selling apps. And nothing in this presentation did anything to change this.
 
For those that can afford to toss $3000+, I look forward to seeing what you transpires in gen10, but my eyes want nothing to do with a 4k stamp sized screen.

I actually prefer to interact a wee bit with humans (actual) for a decade or 4 more.

I also prefer to feel a 12 inch subwoofer while I watch a movie.
 
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I bet people thought this about their HomePod. Or ping. Or Apple TV the hobby. Or mobile me. Or pippin. Or newton. Or iPod hifi. Or Lisa.

I can keep going.
Apple TV and HomePod are probably two of the worse examples of success when trying to compare this to successful products though. Both of those products arrived into the market later than the competiton and both suffered due to cost and this affected uptake ultimately. You could probably add AirPods Max to that category too. Not saying these are flops, just not mainstream desired products for one reason or another.

I think the positive thing about Apple's attempt at VR is it will drive competition to develop better products and undercut Apple on cost. Look at HomePod that was a poor smart assistant, but a really good speaker, perhaps the best of any smart assistant on the market, but ultimately suffered because it was 3 to 4 times more expensive than anything by Google and Amazon and was heavily restricted by proprietary functionality. This VR product might be better than anything else in the market, but as we know, many will react with 'so what?' and buy an inferior product that is a third or a quarter of the cost that has enough of the functionality that is desired. This product is testing the consumer I think to see what the market can tolerate. I would imagine future releases will be significantly cheaper.
 
For those that can afford to toss $3000+, I look forward to seeing what you transpires in gen10, but my eyes want nothing to do with a 4k stamp sized screen.

I actually prefer to interact a wee bit with humans (actual) for a decade or 4 more.

I also prefer to feel a 12 inch subwoofer while I watch a movie.
You're interacting with digital humans now. You might as well put the Vision Pro on your head.

You can still use your subwoofer while watching a movie, I'm sure. Maybe it will also connect to your Homepods.
 
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Okay, listen, I respect the work that went into this. I can also respect this is a kind of beta hardware for something that might be practical one day in the future. Apple can totally afford to play around with ideas. So, I'm not knocking them for working on this.

However, let's be honest. How many people want to wear this thing on their head instead of watching their 65" OLED TV (or bigger for the price of this thing)? Who wants to take this on a trip instead of a trusty MacBook Pro that has 16 hours of battery life? Who wants to use this thing to write forum posts? Who wants to use this thing to do much of anything? Not me.

In fact there is only one thing I can see this being useful for given the battery life, but they aren't going to market it for that.
I can totally see myself using one to watch my k-drama cop shows when my wife has commandeered the 65” to watch bloody fashion week catwalks. I’d also use it on flights over my iPad assuming the USB port actually puts out enough juice, unlike the joke of a port they have on Air NZ.
 
You're interacting with digital humans now. You might as well put the Vision Pro on your head.

You can still use your subwoofer while watching a movie, I'm sure. How it will connect to your Homepods.
Well, I think people feeling like they have to connected every minute of the day is a problem, be it iPads and phones or goggles. The problem is the total immersion. Seems like a fun gimmick, but I want to be able to leave it at work or what have you. Is this apple’s answer to remote work? So you can be on task all day long? What’s the point of coming in to work if you can do it all virtually? While I still think people, especially the medically vulnerable should get to choose to work from home, I don’t know a major tech company that isn’t struggling to bring its workforce back to the office. What’s the reasoning? Aside from getting the most out of those shiny buildings, it’s that they claim there’s a real value to in person human interaction. With the use cases apple has presented, doesn’t that undermine that argument?
 
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