Yellow-gate? ;)

[kerrikins]

Lmao you actually took a picture of the receipt. No it doesn't matter. Nice try though that looks like the 6/6s plus 64gb price. The 7 plus 32gb is $869 as far as I know .

Why are you laughing at them when you were swearing up and down that they couldn't have bought the phone outright?? The 256gb iPhone 7 model is $849, I'm guessing that's what OP bought if they're in the US.

 

[Bryan Bowler]

I'm done with you. You seriously need help, it's just a phone. Good luck finding that blue screen.

Seek help.

I'm with you guys. You're not alone. Countless others (including myself) have called kre62 out numerous times, but he just won't stop. He propagates fear into others, he tries to convince people to make dozens of returns, and he generates conspiracy theories about Apple. What's even more crazy is he's been doing it for years.

Unfortunately, you can't talk logically with him about this without him going bat-crazy on you. He'll just keep pushing the same conspiracy theories day in and day out.

 

[evorc]

Why are you laughing at them when you were swearing up and down that they couldn't have bought the phone outright?? The 256gb iPhone 7 model is $849, I'm guessing that's what OP bought if they're in the US.

Deleted. I don't need to argue.

Yes it might be a 7. You're missing my point here, I don't need to explain myself.

 

[evorc]

I'm with you guys. You're not alone. Countless others (including myself) have called kre62 out numerous times, but he just won't stop. He propagates fear into others, he tries to convince people to make dozens of returns, and he generates conspiracy theories about Apple. What's even more crazy is he's been doing it for years.

Unfortunately, you can't talk logically with him about this without him going bat-crazy on you. He'll just keep pushing the same conspiracy theories day in and day out.

Exactly, perhaps it's not the phone that's the issue here lol.

 

[kre62]

I'm with you guys. You're not alone. Countless others (including myself) have called kre62 out numerous times, but he just won't stop. He propagates fear into others, he tries to convince people to make dozens of returns, and he generates conspiracy theories about Apple. What's even more crazy is he's been doing it for years.

Unfortunately, you can't talk logically with him about this without him going bat-crazy on you. He'll just keep pushing the same conspiracy theories day in and day out.

Oh hey Bryan thought you gave up after i defeated you with logic. I know you dont want to try to explain away the good screens we are seeing in this thread do you? Still call it a conspiracy theory when we have hard evidence? Then you really are in denial. Nothing can help you.

Tell you what, screenshot the output of your phone on the settings screen. Put it on one of your calibrated monitors. Compare to the phone. If they dont exactly match, the phone is not accurate right? This has bever been about blue tint, its about accurate colors. The settings screen is bluish/white. If a screen does not show blue/white its inaccurate, regardless of tint.
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Exactly, perhaps it's not the phone that's the issue here lol.

Do you have anything whatsoever to back that up?

 

[evorc]

Oh hey Bryan thought you gave up after i defeated you with logic. I know you dont want to try to explain away the good screens we are seeing in this thread do you? Still call it a conspiracy theory when we have hard evidence? Then you really are in denial. Nothing can help you.

Tell you what, screenshot the output of your phone on the settings screen. Put it on one of your calibrated monitors. Compare to the phone. If they dont exactly match, the phone is not accurate right? This has bever been about blue tint, its about accurate colors. The settings screen is bluish/white. If a screen does not show blue/white its inaccurate, regardless of tint.
[doublepost=1475726777][/doublepost]
Do you have anything whatsoever to back that up?

Are you some kind of teenager? For crying out loud. It's just a phone lol. Didn't you return your 7 twice already? Yet you insist on convincing others on your failed conspiracy. LOL. the 7 is supposed to be slightly warmer period!!! Just give up man, seek help. Stop giving out false information.

 

[Gathomblipoob]

The settings screen is bluish/white.

I'm just not getting how the settings screen is the de facto standard for screen color and calibration.

 

[kre62]

Are you some kind of teenager? For crying out loud. It's just a phone lol. Didn't you return your 7 twice already? Yet you insist on convincing others on your failed conspiracy. LOL. the 7 is supposed to be warm period!!!

Ok lets say the 7 is warmer, thats fine. Even on a warm screen the settings screen should be a bue-gray/white. Like this phone on the right.

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/yellow-gate.1996889/page-48#post-23669169

Put the output from the gpu on a calibrated monitor at 6500k. Itll look exacly like that, if not bluer. So sure the tint on the iphone is warmer. It should also be exactly accurate. Most ive seen are not.

I know you and bryan like to throw the word conspiracy around. Its clear neither of you understand what that word means.
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I'm just not getting how the settings screen is the de facto standard for screen color and calibration.

Simply because its an easy reference point and really shows when a screen is yellow. Its supposed to be blue/gray and white. Thats confirmed on an exactly calibrated 6500k monitor.

 

[shansoft]

I'm just not getting how the settings screen is the de facto standard for screen color and calibration.

It's not a defect if it is just warm.
Screen with a uneven tint through out from top to bottom is a defect. This is the problem people are talking about, why are people still defending Apple? I don't get it.

 

[kre62]

It's not a defect if it is just warm.
Screen with a uneven tint through out from top to bottom is a defect. This is the problem people are talking about, why are people still defending Apple? I don't get it.

Uneven is a defect, and not displaying colors accurately is a defect. People like bryan and evorc dont want to help people, they just want to insult people. They have absolutely nothing to back themselves up and deflect logic with insults. They are like the donald trumps of apple forums. No substance, all talk, all hyperbole.

 

[Bryan Bowler]

Oh hey Bryan thought you gave up after i defeated you with logic. I know you dont want to try to explain away the good screens we are seeing in this thread do you? Still call it a conspiracy theory when we have hard evidence? Then you really are in denial. Nothing can help you.

Tell you what, screenshot the output of your phone on the settings screen. Put it on one of your calibrated monitors. Compare to the phone. If they dont exactly match, the phone is not accurate right? This has bever been about blue tint, its about accurate colors. The settings screen is bluish/white. If a screen does not show blue/white its inaccurate, regardless of tint.
[doublepost=1475726777][/doublepost]
Do you have anything whatsoever to back that up?

Get help dude. You're delusional. You've never "defeated me with logic" or achieved some kind of victory. Although I'm sure you'll stand up and continue to beat your war drum.

As for providing solid data, as I've told you numerous times, I'll gladly profile my iPhone 7 and iPhone 7+ with my colorimeter after they both arrive. Unfortunately, I pre-ordered with T-Mobile and it's taking forever to get these phones. I'm reasonable certain they will be right on the money or very, very close. Of course, I won't be the first one to get these results. Plenty of other professional labs/testers have already done so.

http://www.displaymate.com/iPhone7_ShootOut_1.htm

I know exactly what you're going to say next: you'll dispute Dr. Raymond Soneira's well-executed tests or you'll claim that Apple secretly gives him and other testers special displays while giving the average consumers known bad displays. Which will it be this time, or will it be both?

 

[evorc]

Uneven is a defect, and not displaying colors accurately is a defect. People like bryan and evorc dont want to help people, they just want to insult people. They have absolutely nothing to back themselves up and deflect logic with insults. They are like the donald trumps of apple forums. No substance, all talk, all hyperbole.

Good God. You are something else kid.

I'm done arguing and will effectively unfollow this thread and will not post anymore. I'm not defending Apple. I'm just trying to talk some senses in some of you and prevent you from making a fool out of yourselves exchanging the phone multiple times because of this guy's failed logic.

 

[kre62]

Get help dude. You're delusional. You've never "defeated me with logic" or achieved some kind of victory. Although I'm sure you'll stand up and continue to beat your war drum.

As for providing solid data, as I've told you numerous times, I'll gladly profile my iPhone 7 and iPhone 7+ with my colorimeter after they both arrive. Unfortunately, I pre-ordered with T-Mobile and it's taking forever to get these phones. I'm reasonable certain they will be right on the money or very, very close. Of course, I won't be the first one to get these results. Plenty of other professional labs/testers have already done so.

http://www.displaymate.com/iPhone7_ShootOut_1.htm

I know exactly what you're going to say next: you'll dispute Dr. Raymond Soneira's well-executed tests or you'll claim that Apple secretly gives him and other testers special displays while giving the average consumers known bad displays. Which will it be this time, or will it be both?

Haha nice deflection. Im sure displaymates phone was warmer than their 6s. In fact, ill agree with both you and evorc and say that the 7 should be warmer. Hows that?

Now the we've established its warmer, lets attack color accuracy. The bad screens look like the one on the left. The screen on the right is displaying what the settings screen should look like. Ive been using blue tint to try to explain it but thats not correct. In this case the screen should display what the settings screen should look like, tint or not. At 6500k the settings screen should look blue/gray and white. You can test it right now bryan on your professionaly calibrated computer monitor. Itll be blue and white and not yellow, 100%. Ive already dont it.

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/yellow-gate.1996889/page-48#post-23669169
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Good God. You are something else kid. I'm done arguing and will effectively unfollow this thread and will not post anymore. I'm not defending Apple. I'm just trying to talk some senses in some of you and prevent you from making a fool out of yourselves exchanging the phone multiple times because of this guy's failed logic.

Please do unfollow youve been nothing but disruptive and not helpful at all. People arent stupid and you cant convince them that blue should look yellow. You just cant evorc. The settings screen is blue/white period, has nothing to do with tint. Like i said put it on a calibrated screen and see for yourself. This is literally inarguable.

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/yellow-gate.1996889/page-48#post-23669169

 

[Bryan Bowler]

People like bryan and evorc dont want to help people, they just want to insult people. They have absolutely nothing to back themselves up and deflect logic with insults. They are like the donald trumps of apple forums. No substance, all talk, all hyperbole.

Is that so? I think I've outlined my qualifications and intent quite well:
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/yellow-gate.1996889/page-21#post-23544094

 

[Gathomblipoob]

Is that so? I think I've outlined my qualifications and intent quite well:
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/yellow-gate.1996889/page-21#post-23544094

Heard about you and your honeyed words...

 

[kre62]

Is that so? I think I've outlined my qualifications and intent quite well:
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/yellow-gate.1996889/page-21#post-23544094

From the one guy whos never had a 7 of his own. Doesnt matter anyway bryan im agreeing with you its more correct and closer to 6500k. Still doesnt explain screens that dont display the settings screen as blue/gray and white. Like i said dont wait for your 7 do it now with a 6s on ios10 or any other ios device. Email yourself the screenshot and bring it up on your monitor. It wont look like the phone on the left.

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/yellow-gate.1996889/page-48#post-23669169

 

[evorc]

Haha nice deflection. Im sure displaymates phone was warmer than their 6s. In fact, ill agree with both you and evorc and say that the 7 should be warmer. Hows that?

Now the we've established its warmer, lets attack color accuracy. The bad screens look like the one on the left. The screen on the right is displaying what the settings screen should look like. Ive been using blue tint to try to explain it but thats not correct. In this case the screen should display what the settings screen should look like, tint or not. At 6500k the settings screen should look blue/gray and white. You can test it right now bryan on your professionaly calibrated computer monitor. Itll be blue and white and not yellow, 100%. Ive already dont it.

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/yellow-gate.1996889/page-48#post-23669169
[doublepost=1475728107][/doublepost]

Please do unfollow youve been nothing but disruptive and not helpful at all. People arent stupid and you cant convince them that blue should look yellow. You just cant evorc. The settings screen is blue/white period, has nothing to do with tint. Like i said put it on a calibrated screen and see for yourself. This is literally inarguable.

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/yellow-gate.1996889/page-48#post-23669169

You need HELP. You want people to listen to you over Displaymate analysis? You're delusional. You've been using the same picture to prove your wrong logic. Both phones were not taken at the same time and lightning and camera type used are a factor. But you failed to see that did you? Like I said show us an iPhone 7 side by side with a 6s with the same tint to prove that your failed logic is right. Inarguable smh.

 

[kre62]

You need HELP. You want people to listen to you over Displaymate analysis? You're delusional. You've been using the same picture to prove your wrong logic. Both phones were not taken at the same time and lightning and camera type used are a factor. But you failed to see that did you? Like I said show us an iPhone 7 side by side with a 6s with the same tint to prove that your failed logic is right. Inarguable smh.

Listen to me very carefully. I am now fully agreeing with you and displaymate that the 7 is warmer.

Now that does not explain yellow looking settings screen. Do it yourself evorc, screenshot it and put it on a calibrated monitor, please. Youll see a blue-gray/white screen. So if thats what the gpu is outputting, why is it not showing up that way on a lot of screens? Answer that evorc and dont deflect.

 

[Bryan Bowler]

From the one guy whos never had a 7 of his own. Doesnt matter anyway bryan im agreeing with you its more correct and closer to 6500k. Still doesnt explain screens that dont display the settings screen as blue/gray and white. Like i said dont wait for your 7 do it now with a 6s on ios10 or any other ios device. Email yourself the screenshot and bring it up on your monitor. It wont look like the phone on the left.

As I said before, you're making your judgements based off random pics you find on the internet. I choose to measure color accuracy with colorimeters.

 

[kre62]

Thats terrific. I literally did what i said and put a screenshot of the settings screen on a 100% accurate professionally calibrated monitor and looked at it with my own eyes. It looked blue-gray and white. The 7s ive had looked yellow and did not match the calibrated screen. So i did not get a good screen. Can you argue with that?

The shots of the 7s clearly show a difference and the one on the right is showing closer to what a properly calibrated screen would display.

 

[Bryan Bowler]

Thats terrific. I literally did what i said and put a screenshot of the settings screen on a 100% accurate professionally calibrated monitor and looked at it with my own eyes. It looked blue-gray and white. The 7s ive had looked yellow and did not match the calibrated screen. So i did not get a good screen. Can you argue with that?

1) For starters, why not measure the color accuracy of your iPhones with a colorimeter? That's a sure-fire way to get accurate results.

2) Granted, I've been working and have been away from this thread for about a week or so, but I don't recall you ever talking about having a calibrated screen. But let's dive into that one. Can you please let us know what make/model of display you're using to look at these screen shots? When was the last time that screen was calibrated? What tool was used to calibrate that display?

3) More questions about your calibrated display. Are you viewing everything at the calibrated brightness level or has that changed? Are you viewing that monitor under the exact same lighting conditions as when it was calibrated...or is there changing light conditions in the room? All of these factors come into play.

 

[kre62]

1) For starters, why not measure the color accuracy of your iPhones with a colorimeter? That's a sure-fire way to get accurate results.

2) Granted, I've been working and have been away from this thread for about a week or so, but I don't recall you ever talking about having a calibrated screen. But let's dive into that one. Can you please let us know what make/model of display you're using to look at these screen shots? When was the last time that screen was calibrated? What tool was used to calibrate that display?

3) More questions about your calibrated display. Are you viewing everything at the calibrated brightness level or has that changed? Are you viewing that monitor under the exact same lighting conditions as when it was calibrated...or is there changing light conditions in the room? All of these factors come into play.

I used a friends display who is a professional photographer. But you dont need more evidence from me Bryan since you claim to have a calibrated display go do it for yourself. You obviously wont believe anything anyone tells you, so please go do it yourself.

I dont think you can argue that the phone on the left in those pictures in the post I quoted matches the phone on the right, right? I am saying the one on the left is not accurate. My viewing of the settings screen, using output of the GPU of the iPhone, on a calibrated monitor confirmed that, though I wasn't surprised as every single iOS device has displayed the settings screen correctly. Looking at the calibrated screen, and looking at the 7, it was clear it looked different. The 7s I had looked nothing like the calibrated output. And they looked a lot like every other yellow tinted ios device ive ever had. So no, the screen on the left is 100% not intentional, even if a general warming is.

 

[Bryan Bowler]

I used a friends display who is a professional photographer. But you dont need more evidence from me Bryan since you claim to have a calibrated display go do it for yourself. You obviously wont believe anything anyone tells you, so please go do it yourself.

I dont think you can argue that the phone on the left in those pictures in the post I quoted matches the phone on the right, right? I am saying the one on the left is not accurate. My viewing of the settings screen on a calibrated monitor confirmed that, though I wasn't surprised as every single iOS device has displayed the settings screen correctly. Looking at the calibrated screen, and looking at the 7, it was clear it looked different. The 7s I had looked nothing like the calibrated output. And they looked a lot like every other yellow tinted ios device ive ever had. So no, the screen on the left is 100% not intentional, even if a general warming is.

Ok, this is what I thought. Just like the many other times we've discussed this, you're not getting it. I will say this one more time and then I'm headed to bed to get a very short night's sleep. You cannot take some random picture and judge it for accurate color on a calibrated display. You can only measure accurate color by using a colorimeter on the device itself.

Actually, I will say it a second time. No amount of staring at pictures here on MacRumors will tell you if a display has accurate colors. You must measure it with a colorimeter to asses how accurate the colors are.

I'm going to sleep now and have a field assignment to photograph tomorrow. I'll gladly pick back up on this as soon as I can. In the meantime, hopefully this helps a few others to see through your claims.

 

[kre62]

Ok, this is what I thought. Just like the many other times we've discussed this, you're not getting it. I will say this one more time and then I'm headed to bed to get a very short night's sleep. You cannot take some random picture and judge it for accurate color on a calibrated display. You can only measure accurate color by using a colorimeter on the device itself.

Actually, I will say it a second time. No amount of staring at pictures here on MacRumors will tell you if a display has accurate colors. You must measure it with a colorimeter to asses how accurate the colors are.

I'm going to sleep now and have a field assignment to photograph tomorrow. I'll gladly pick back up on this as soon as I can. In the meantime, hopefully this helps a few others to see through your claims.

Bryan its you who is not getting it. I didn't look at pictures from macrumors on the calibrated display. I looked at the output of the GPU from the iPhone on the calibrated display.

See, the GPU, or graphics processing unit, sends the video signal to the screen. The GPU does not know what screen its hitting and it doesn't care. It just outputs the image as Apple intended.

By doing a screenshot on your iPhone, pressing home and power, you will capture the output of the GPU.

You can then take this output, direct from the GPU, email it to yourself, and pull it up on a calibrated monitor. You'll then see exactly what the settings screen is supposed to look like.

Hope thats clear, its remarkable how many different ways I've had to explain this to you. Its like its just not clicking for you for some reason.

Like I said you can do this too Bryan. Dont look at pics from macrumors. Screenshot the GPU output of a live iOS device right now and put it on a calibrated display. That will tell you what it's supposed to look like. Its blue/gray and white. Like it's always been.

 

[AndrewR23]

Hey people that say the iphone 7 is made to be warmer


Why did my 4 look like this in 2010 then?