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iPhone 12 Pro Yellow Screen/Tint? Display seem "Warm"? Check here first!

It would appear some of the screen are made form a Chinese manufacturer of OLED and some LG and some Samsung. So the 12 and 12 pro are mixed between this company BOE and LG https://9to5mac.com/2020/10/20/apple-supplier-boe-making-oled-screens-for-iphone-12-report/

That could explain differing screen quality/colour and shift on the same devices.

Saw this too https://www.macrumors.com/2020/06/12/boe-oled-panels-for-iphone-12-not-shipped/

Wonder if the 12's got the BOE screens and pro's got LG which may explain the brightness differences rather than it being a software limitation. I would imagine the panels from the Chinese manufacturer would be a lot cheaper.
 
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dorkimoe said:
Because then we would have bigger problems to write about
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Lol exactly. I think the problem is most years there is a small batch that gets this, but it seems very wide spread this year to the point where reviewers are seeing it in their units as well.
 
floriano8812 said:
The left one is better but I‘m not sure if good enough. Satisfied?
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I just had a long looooong call with Apple, showed them the pictures and 2 senior's decided that both phones showed issue's with the screen. The one on the left is less bright and seems to show a grey/greenish hue when looking at white pages. The one on the right has a slight yellow tint.

They started a replacement procedure, but this means that we'll be without these iPhones for a week or 2. This makes me angry, because I also bought 2 magsafe chargers that BOTH were damaged when I took them out of the box.
 
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nphinity said:
I just had a long looooong call with Apple, showed them the pictures and 2 senior's decided that both phones showed issue's with the screen. The one on the left is less bright and seems to show a grey/greenish hue when looking at white pages. The one on the right has a slight yellow tint.

They started a replacement procedure, but this means that we'll be without these iPhones for a week or 2. This makes me angry, because I also bought 2 magsafe chargers that BOTH were damaged when I took them out of the box.
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I didn't want to be without a phone so they let me order a replacement and extended my return window so I could keep the current device until it comes. Downside to selling your other phone the day you get the new one...
 
go3asy said:
It would appear some of the screen are made form a Chinese manufacturer of OLED and some LG and some Samsung. So the 12 and 12 pro are mixed between this company BOE and LG https://9to5mac.com/2020/10/20/apple-supplier-boe-making-oled-screens-for-iphone-12-report/

That could explain differing screen quality/colour and shift on the same devices.

Saw this too https://www.macrumors.com/2020/06/12/boe-oled-panels-for-iphone-12-not-shipped/

Wonder if the 12's got the BOE screens and pro's got LG which may explain the brightness differences rather than it being a software limitation. I would imagine the panels from the Chinese manufacturer would be a lot cheaper.
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Until we have verified tear downs with panel identification this is still a bit of a conjecture thread and vague with which models for which manufacturers
 
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thadoggfather said:
Until we have verified tear downs with panel identification this is still a bit of a conjecture thread and vague with which models for which manufacturers
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The iFixit teardown couldn't see differences and said the pro and 12 were interchangeable but the brightness was still lower I read somewhere on the 12 panel if it was plugged into the pro.
 
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go3asy said:
The iFixit teardown couldn't see differences and said the pro and 12 were interchangeable but the brightness was still lower I read somewhere on the 12 panel if it was plugged into the pro.
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thats interesting

there does seem to be an appreciable nit difference in casual use between 12 and 12P. Makes me glad I opted for 12P even more.

And maybe it's not an artificial limitation but rather different tiers of panels? with largely similar contrast and such, if there is parity from one to the other notwithstanding nits? hard to say

im surprised the iFixit didnt identify panel manufacturer

it seems regardless, if 2-3 suppliers are involved they will need to teardown several units to draw any sort of conclusion; two won't cut it (one of 12 and one 12P)
 
nn88 said:
Has the Mac Rumor article been posted yet?
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you can be sure it's going to be mostly people commenting:

'this happens every year' (as if the user is to blame)
'you're looking at it wrong'
'get over it, its a phone'

etc etc lol. I look forward to it.
 
go3asy said:
It would appear some of the screen are made form a Chinese manufacturer of OLED and some LG and some Samsung. So the 12 and 12 pro are mixed between this company BOE and LG https://9to5mac.com/2020/10/20/apple-supplier-boe-making-oled-screens-for-iphone-12-report/

That could explain differing screen quality/colour and shift on the same devices.

Saw this too https://www.macrumors.com/2020/06/12/boe-oled-panels-for-iphone-12-not-shipped/

Wonder if the 12's got the BOE screens and pro's got LG which may explain the brightness differences rather than it being a software limitation. I would imagine the panels from the Chinese manufacturer would be a lot cheaper.
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Manufacturer doesn’t necessarily matter. I’ve had many Samsung screens in the iPhone X, XS that were really bad. I also had a OnePlus 7 Pro that used BOE for its screen and at the time was the best / most accurate screen I’d seen on a phone.

**Edit- OnePlus 7 Pro also had a DC dimming option to nearly eliminate PWM flicker. It worked beautifully but caused minor uniformity issues at low brightness. So I welcome BOE into the mix if they can implement DC dimming on iPhone.

I’m just a layman, but I think location on the main glass sheet at factory makes the difference in screen quality. Screens cut closer to center are the good ones. Screens further away exhibit the odd shifts, pink tint, yellow hue, etc. I would think it’s more expensive for a company to request better quality screens / better cut screens. In which case I’m not surprised that several slip through the cracks with Apple. I wish I still had the link to the article I read on this years ago about OLED panel quality, it was interesting.

I hope Apple takes notice but again, we are smaller than a drop in a bucket. Apple shouldn’t care that 1000 people out of hundreds of millions have issues with this. If I was worth $2 Trillion, I wouldn’t care less.
 
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I don’t have another OLED iPhone for comparison, but compared to my mom’s 11, my 12 Pro’s display is noticeably warmer even with True Tone turned off on both. In fact, True Tone off on the 12 pro is still warmer than True Tone on with the 11. Based on camera photos, I think the 11’s colors are truer to real life too.

Definitely disappointing. Wish Apple would just give us a white point slider to adjust the displays ourselves.
 
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terraphantm said:
Definitely disappointing. Wish Apple would just give us a white point slider to adjust the displays ourselves.
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Yea no clue why they don't do this. How many phones get returned each launch for these kind of issues? Seems stupid. Just let us control the device and make it how we want.
 
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terraphantm said:
I don’t have another OLED iPhone for comparison, but compared to my mom’s 11, my 12 Pro’s display is noticeably warmer even with True Tone turned off on both. In fact, True Tone off on the 12 pro is still warmer than True Tone on with the 11. Based on camera photos, I think the 11’s colors are truer to real life too.

Definitely disappointing. Wish Apple would just give us a white point slider to adjust the displays ourselves.
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Specially for the pro model which they are marketing towards pro photography to have colour out of whack isn't ideal.

in any videos I see online though the 12 is the one which stands out with a different colour profile
 
BPN84 said:
Yea no clue why they don't do this. How many phones get returned each launch for these kind of issues? Seems stupid. Just let us control the device and make it how we want.
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For now adjusting the hue in the accessibility menu seems to get me an okay result. Probably not as good as adjusting the white point itself, but it'll do for now.
 
terraphantm said:
For now adjusting the hue in the accessibility menu seems to get me an okay result. Probably not as good as adjusting the white point itself, but it'll do for now.
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Yea it can definitely help but to me the whites become duller and not as bright. But I seem to be in the minority because as long as I have TT off, my 12 Pro screen is icy. It's definitely bluer than my X was with TT on. I saw someone in this thread say that the 12 with TT off is still warmer than their 11 with TT on. That would bother me.

Coming from an X, here is how I would say the screens compare (spaces between the dashes showing magnitude of change):

BLUER
- iPhone X TT off
- iPhone 12 Pro TT off

- iPhone X TT on



-iPhone 12 Pro TT on
YELLOWER

I am actually leaving TT on on the 12 Pro even though it is warmer than I'd like because it is too blue without it. I wish it could be somewhere in the middle. Color temp of my X with TT on was perfect to me.
 
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Edit: leaving this here if anyone wants to have an actual discussion. If you simply want to tell me why I’m wrong, please see the replies on the next page.

Why aren’t the people who like the cool white screens just using color filters?

Here’s an example of True Tone on, no color filter:

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And True Tone off, blue color filter:

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To achieve this look, I went to Settings > Accessibility > Display & Text Size > Color Filters > Color Tint. Slid the color filter to the medium blue colored pencil:

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BPN84 said:
Yea it can definitely help but to me the whites become duller and not as bright. But I seem to be in the minority because as long as I have TT off, my 12 Pro screen is icy. It's definitely bluer than my X was with TT on. I saw someone in this thread say that the 12 with TT off is still warmer than their 11 with TT on. That would bother me.

Coming from an X, here is how I would say the screens compare (spaces between the dashes showing magnitude of change):

BLUER
- iPhone X TT off
- iPhone 12 Pro TT off

- iPhone X TT on



-iPhone 12 Pro TT on
YELLOWER

I am actually leaving TT on on the 12 Pro even though it is warmer than I'd like because it is too blue without it. I wish it could be somewhere in the middle. Color temp of my X with TT on was perfect to me.
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post pics side by side! lets see that crisp blue 12!
 
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