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There is no way I could possibly look through all these replies to see if this has been mentioned.

Why aren’t the people who like the cool white screens just using color filters?

Here’s an example of True Tone on, no color filter:

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And True Tone off, blue color filter:

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To achieve this look, I went to Settings > Accessibility > Display & Text Size > Color Filters > Color Tint. Slid the color filter to the medium blue colored pencil:

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Been mentioned at least 400 times per day! Still isnt a real fix!
 
It would appear some of the screen are made form a Chinese manufacturer of OLED and some LG and some Samsung. So the 12 and 12 pro are mixed between this company BOE and LG https://9to5mac.com/2020/10/20/apple-supplier-boe-making-oled-screens-for-iphone-12-report/

That could explain differing screen quality/colour and shift on the same devices.

Saw this too https://www.macrumors.com/2020/06/12/boe-oled-panels-for-iphone-12-not-shipped/

Wonder if the 12's got the BOE screens and pro's got LG which may explain the brightness differences rather than it being a software limitation. I would imagine the panels from the Chinese manufacturer would be a lot cheaper.

From what I read, the 12 Mini, 12 Pro and 12 Pro Max are all Samsung panels, and 12 is LG.

The first link you posted says BOE recently started shipping panels for the 12...
BOE Technology reportedly will start shipping 6.1-inch OLED panels, albeit in small volume, for the just released iPhone 12 in the second half of October, with prospects to gradually ramp up related shipments in 2021, according to industry sources.

So launch iPhone 12 would all be LG, but it'll be a mix with BOE in the near future.
 
What about it isn’t a fix? It gives the look that people seem to want
Because color filters distort all colors to be whatever hue you have set, whereas white balance affects the actual value of white being displayed on a screen. Shifting all my colors to be bluer isn't what I want, I want my whites to be realistic and my colors to be accurate.
 
What about it isn’t a fix? It gives the look that people seem to want
Because you’re adding blue to counteract yellow which dulls the brightness and looks artificial. Blue + yellow also makes green. It’s not that the screen is lacking blue, it’s that it has yellow. A filter on top can’t subtract color.
 
It would appear some of the screen are made form a Chinese manufacturer of OLED and some LG and some Samsung. So the 12 and 12 pro are mixed between this company BOE and LG https://9to5mac.com/2020/10/20/apple-supplier-boe-making-oled-screens-for-iphone-12-report/

That could explain differing screen quality/colour and shift on the same devices.

Saw this too https://www.macrumors.com/2020/06/12/boe-oled-panels-for-iphone-12-not-shipped/

Wonder if the 12's got the BOE screens and pro's got LG which may explain the brightness differences rather than it being a software limitation. I would imagine the panels from the Chinese manufacturer would be a lot cheaper.
Read somewhere BOE in play for both 12 and 12 pro. BOE missed its first delivery date because of quality issues.
 
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Yea it can definitely help but to me the whites become duller and not as bright. But I seem to be in the minority because as long as I have TT off, my 12 Pro screen is icy. It's definitely bluer than my X was with TT on. I saw someone in this thread say that the 12 with TT off is still warmer than their 11 with TT on. That would bother me.

Coming from an X, here is how I would say the screens compare (spaces between the dashes showing magnitude of change):

BLUER
- iPhone X TT off
- iPhone 12 Pro TT off

- iPhone X TT on



-iPhone 12 Pro TT on
YELLOWER

I am actually leaving TT on on the 12 Pro even though it is warmer than I'd like because it is too blue without it. I wish it could be somewhere in the middle. Color temp of my X with TT on was perfect to me.
I find you can get middle ground with night shift on all the way LESS and set time to have it on all the time. Give it a shot.
 
Specially for the pro model which they are marketing towards pro photography to have colour out of whack isn't ideal.

in any videos I see online though the 12 is the one which stands out with a different colour profile
Right,
the iPhone 12 Pro "seems" quite blueish from the Video and the Regular iPhone 12 looks to be the more pinkish. But the camera is surely not reproducing the real colours. Now regardless of the camera not showing the real color, reg iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 pro are looking so different...
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I have 2 iPhone Pro's here so I placed them side by side (again) and I can spot small differences. But I only have these 2 devices as my reference as this is my first time buying an OLED iPhone. I think I see the same differences between my 2 iPhone 12 Pro's as I can see in the screenshot of Jim McN's post (pro vs regular);

- shows a bit of grey/blueish tinting, display seems less 'bright'
- one shows a bit of yellow/orange tinting

Below is an album with several pictures that I took of both devices next to each other. Do you guys also see differences and which of these do you prefer ? I have an appointment to return them both, but it's kind of a gamble .. maybe i'm being too picky.

**edit: sorry, I just noticed that I swapped devices in picture 5 and 6. Stupid me. Next to the clock of the darker one is a small GPS arrow, this is how you can distinguish them from each other**

 
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In response to the message above;
I have 2 iPhone Pro's here so I placed them side by side (again) and I can spot small differences. But I only have these 2 devices as my reference as this is my first time buying an OLED iPhone. I think I see the same differences between my 2 iPhone 12 Pro's as I can see in the screenshot of Jim McN's post (pro vs regular);

- right one shows a bit of grey/blueish tinting, display seems less 'bright'
- left one shows a bit of yellow/orange tinting

Below is an album with several pictures that I took of both devices next to each other. Do you guys also see differences and which of these do you prefer ? I have an appointment to return them both, but it's kind of a gamble .. maybe i'm being too picky.
I would keep the left one (while I am sure that I am not seen their real-life colors.)
 
In response to the message above;
I have 2 iPhone Pro's here so I placed them side by side (again) and I can spot small differences. But I only have these 2 devices as my reference as this is my first time buying an OLED iPhone. I think I see the same differences between my 2 iPhone 12 Pro's as I can see in the screenshot of Jim McN's post (pro vs regular);

- one shows a bit of grey/blueish tinting
- one shows a bit of yellow/orange tinting

Below is an album with several pictures that I took of both devices next to each other. Do you guys also see differences and which of these do you prefer ? I have an appointment to return them both, but it's kind of a gamble .. maybe i'm being too picky.
To me (and I get that everyone has different tolerances), those seem like very VERY minute differences and if they were not right next to each other, I'd doubt you'd even realize they were different. Of course, in person it may look more pronounced. Cameras aren't really great at taking pictures of screens.

If it were me, I would not return either unless they really bug you in everyday use or it looks much different in person than it does here. The lighting/color looks uniform within the devices themselves. Every screen will be a bit different (not just Apple). For example, I have dual monitors at my computer at work. They are the exact same model and brand (Dell). However, I have to tweak them differently to get them to look close to the same and they still aren't exact. I just think every panel is different to some extent. If it is really defective, it should be obvious in my opinion.
 
In response to the message above;
I have 2 iPhone Pro's here so I placed them side by side (again) and I can spot small differences. But I only have these 2 devices as my reference as this is my first time buying an OLED iPhone. I think I see the same differences between my 2 iPhone 12 Pro's as I can see in the screenshot of Jim McN's post (pro vs regular);

- right one shows a bit of grey/blueish tinting, display seems less 'bright'
- left one shows a bit of yellow/orange tinting

Below is an album with several pictures that I took of both devices next to each other. Do you guys also see differences and which of these do you prefer ? I have an appointment to return them both, but it's kind of a gamble .. maybe i'm being too picky.
Its always hard to tell with pictures (since the camera will average the white balance between the two screens) but the left one looks more blue/color accurate to my eyes.
 
Thanks alot for the quick responses!

I would keep the left one (while I am sure that I am not seen their real-life colors.)
Check out my edit, I accidentally swapped the phones in picture 5 and 6. Does this make you think any different ?

Yes I agree with you guys, very small differences. However, I noted that the differences are a bit more pronounced when looking a them from a slight angle. I'm not really sure if this is 'normal', is it ?

I added another album below. My brother just got his iPhone 12 pro, i'll compare his to these 2 and see if there is any difference.

 
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Its always hard to tell with pictures (since the camera will average the white balance between the two screens) but the left one looks more blue/color accurate to my eyes.
That's interesting... because a blue screen isn't actually accurate in terms of white balance. However, a lot of people prefer it as that's what they are used to seeing. Most computer screens etc tend to have a cooler tone to them by default. TV's do plus the contrast and brightness ramped up.

The only monitor I've ever bought that had perfect white balance from new was my Eizo ColorEdge CG2730. All other monitors needed calibrating first before I could do any work on them. Once calibrated correctly, they tend to have a slight yellow/green tinge to them when coming from a blue tint screen. After a while they just look normal.

Edit... just to add, a cooler / blue tint is also more likely to trigger migraine. Blue light from screens can cause bad eyestrain and while I'd never use the night shift option for general browsing, I do use it if Im reading at night as it helps stop headaches etc if you're going to be infant of the screen for a while.
 
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28 pages and people are still suggesting this. smh
Right because this has been going on every year since Apple adopted OLED and people on forums like this are a minority since the masses don’t pay attention to screen calibration. It’s not going to change so people like me suggesting this is our way of saying give up. Move on
 
Struggling a bit with this myself now. Side by side my 11 pro feels a little brighter and less yellow than 12 pro at equal brightness. I tell Siri to set brightness to 50 percent on each. And if I remember correctly my 11 pro was a little dimmer and yellow as compared to my XS max lol

thing is if I’m using my 12 pro on its own in a vacuum my eyes adjust and I’m not bothered at all. But as soon as I place them side by side it’s apparent
 
Struggling a bit with this myself now. Side by side my 11 pro feels a little brighter and less yellow than 12 pro at equal brightness. I tell Siri to set brightness to 50 percent on each. And if I remember correctly my 11 pro was a little dimmer and yellow as compared to my XS max lol

thing is if I’m using my 12 pro on its own in a vacuum my eyes adjust and I’m not bothered at all. But as soon as I place them side by side it’s apparent
Attached some photos using my wife’s iPhone 11, both screens set to 50 percent brightness with auto brightness and True Tone on (how I prefer to use the phones)
 

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Right because this has been going on every year since Apple adopted OLED and people on forums like this are a minority since the masses don’t pay attention to screen calibration. It’s not going to change so people like me suggesting this is our way of saying give up. Move on

Actually still not true. Color filters have been suggested since iPhone 7, which was LCD. Why? Cause some of those LCD screens were also yellow.

Again, not all screens are the same. That goes for LCD and OLED. Some OLEDs each year, including this year are also NOT yellow.

Always boggles the mind how people cant get this concept.
 
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Attached some photos using my wife’s iPhone 11, both screens set to 50 percent brightness with auto brightness and True Tone on (how I prefer to use the phones)
That is unacceptable on what is supposed to be a premium device. The iPhone 11 looks way better. That would be an instant return from me. The only way I would keep that 12 would be if I got it for free.
 
That is unacceptable on what is supposed to be a premium device. The iPhone 11 looks way better. That would be an instant return from me. The only way I would keep that 12 would be if I got it for free.
😂 it’s even worse when compared to my 2018 iPad Pro which tbh is my favorite screen. Great quality lcd. I feel like oled panels have more quirks but could just be my own personal bias towards LCD
 
I love how @theliellama goes through and "laughs" at each post. I guess you think you are discrediting them in some way? While literally adding nothing to the discussion?
 
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I love how @theliellama goes through and "laughs" at each post. I guess you think you are discrediting them in some way? While literally adding nothing to the discussion?
Here’s a gal that actually analyzed the display. She points out similarities to Samsung displays where Apple sourced these


 
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