iPhone 12 Pro Yellow Screen/Tint? Display seem "Warm"? Check here first!

[kre62]

Here’s a gal that actually analyzed the display. She points out similarities to Samsung displays where Apple sourced these

My turn to laugh. This has also been posted many times.

Let me try to simplify this one more time for you.

At launch, each year, there is a percentage of iPhone screens that are exactly like they should be - neutal white point, good brightness, good contrast.

Each year, there is also a group of iPhones that have defective screens - yellow film, low contrast, low brightness, and in the case of oled extreme color shift off axis.

For the sake of discussion, lets say the split is 50/50. So 50% good screens, and 50% bad screens. That means, when you buy a phone, you have a 50% chance of getting a good screen.

At launch, and especially this year, that rate seems to be more like 30/70, so 70% bad screens, 30% good screens.

But that 30 does exist. Meaning there is a batch of correct, non-yellow phones.

People are returning their yellow phones to re-buy and get a swing at the bat to get a good phone.

Any analysis of a phone only applies to that exact phone, not all 12s. Meaning this girls video only proves that HER PHONE was yellow.

There are in fact non yellow perfect phones. Just like every year. You can indeed get a phone that matches last year's screen tint.

I hope that helps. I literally can't simplify this any more for you. I even put a nice baseball reference in there for you. Trying to help out my man.

 

[ghosttrooper]

My turn to laugh. This has also been posted many times.

Let me try to simplify this one more time for you.

At launch, each year, there is a percentage of iPhone screens that are exactly like they should be - neutal white point, good brightness, good contrast.

Each year, there is also a group of iPhones that have defective screens - yellow film, low contrast, low brightness, and in the case of oled extreme color shift off axis.

For the sake of discussion, lets say the split is 50/50. So 50% good screens, and 50% bad screens. That means, when you buy a phone, you have a 50% chance of getting a good screen.

At launch, and especially this year, that rate seems to be more like 70/30.

But that 30 does exist. Meaning there is a batch of correct, non-yellow phones.

People are returning their yellow phones to re-buy and get a swing at the bat to get a good phone.

Any analysis of a phone only applies to that exact phone, not all 12s. Meaning this girls video only proves that HER PHONE was yellow.

There are in fact non yellow perfect phones. Just like every year. You can indeed get a phone that matches last year's screen tint.

I hope that helps. I literally can't simplify this any more for you. I even put a nice baseball reference in there for you. Trying to help out my man.

Adding to this - nobody knows who sourced these. I've seen multiple reports its BOE, Samsung, LG, Trump, who knows. Tbh it doesn't even matter because each of those still produce a percentage of bad panels. The issue here is that this year its much higher than normal.

 

[Wags]

Here’s a gal that actually analyzed the display. She points out similarities to Samsung displays where Apple sourced these

She lost me right away at ‘Apple was so nice to provide these’ and then ‘gone are the crisp whites’ and that was no big deal.

 

[terraphantm]

Here’s a gal that actually analyzed the display. She points out similarities to Samsung displays where Apple sourced these

There seems to be enough variation that I don’t think you can look at a single analysis and assume that applies to all of them. And since a lot of sources seem to indicate that apple sourced the displays from multiple suppliers, I wonder if one of them is just getting the wrong calibration profile applied.

For now, the accessibility option is working well enough IMO. Got it to match fairly well with my MacBook’s screen. Once the supplies are stocked better and covid restrictions are less, I might try my chances at getting the Genius Bar to replace the phone.

 

[ghosttrooper]

Talked to Apple support this afternoon and they advised just exchanging to find a display I like better, so I’ll be trying that this weekend.

 

[Sam in SoCal]

My turn to laugh. This has also been posted many times.

Let me try to simplify this one more time for you.

At launch, each year, there is a percentage of iPhone screens that are exactly like they should be - neutal white point, good brightness, good contrast.

Each year, there is also a group of iPhones that have defective screens - yellow film, low contrast, low brightness, and in the case of oled extreme color shift off axis.

For the sake of discussion, lets say the split is 50/50. So 50% good screens, and 50% bad screens. That means, when you buy a phone, you have a 50% chance of getting a good screen.

At launch, and especially this year, that rate seems to be more like 30/70, so 70% bad screens, 30% good screens.

But that 30 does exist. Meaning there is a batch of correct, non-yellow phones.

People are returning their yellow phones to re-buy and get a swing at the bat to get a good phone.

Any analysis of a phone only applies to that exact phone, not all 12s. Meaning this girls video only proves that HER PHONE was yellow.

There are in fact non yellow perfect phones. Just like every year. You can indeed get a phone that matches last year's screen tint.

I hope that helps. I literally can't simplify this any more for you. I even put a nice baseball reference in there for you. Trying to help out my man.

Well I had no idea this video had been widely circulated since I didn’t pore over all the pages in this thread, yet. Alright, so i may have gotten a yellow screen a year ago when I bought my 11 pro max in October 2019. I have it in dark mode most of the time and I really didn’t pay too much attention. It functioned fine and didn’t affect my productivity(yes I know that’s neither here nor there in this discussion) but earlier today, roughly 2 hours ago I just sold it to an individual for 900$ from Facebook marketplace. Apple was only offering 500$, so I was pretty elated! 😊 Not once did he mention to me the screen was not calibrated properly. Bottom line for me is I don’t give a ****. But but but, yes I would prefer a non yellow phone for the record. Prefer, not return a phone 10 times prefer, just regular prefer

 

[thadoggfather]

Are oled’s susceptible to bruising like Xr/11 was or is that a bullet that is generally dodged?

 

[kre62]

Well I had no idea this video had been widely circulated since I didn’t pore over all the pages in this thread, yet. Alright, so i may have gotten a yellow screen a year ago when I bought my 11 pro max in October 2019. I have it in dark mode most of the time and I really didn’t pay too much attention. It functioned fine and didn’t affect my productivity(yes I know that’s neither here nor there in this discussion) but earlier today, roughly 2 hours ago I just sold it to an individual for 900$ from Facebook marketplace. Apple was only offering 500$, so I was pretty elated! 😊 Not once did he mention to me the screen was not calibrated properly. Bottom line for me is I don’t give a ****. But but but, yes I would prefer a non yellow phone for the record. Prefer, not return a phone 10 times prefer, just regular prefer

I feel you, I don't want to go through 10 either. My whole thing is just helping people realize these two buckets exist. Welcome to team anti-yellow-screen!

 

[IndoX]

Honestly it surprises me anyone even cares about display color temperatures anymore unless they're obviously piss yellow. Every single device that I've ever gotten with a display (TVs, cell phones, monitors, etc) has had some sort of variance in temperature unless you're paying for a specialized display that is pre-calibrated or you calibrate it yourself. The price argument is really moot when literally any other $1,000 phone, TV or monitor will also display the same variance in temperature between devices.

As someone who stares at a computer screen all day I tend to prefer my displays warmer so I alleviate some eye strain. When I look at the examples of these "crisp white" displays all I literally see is blue.

I will say display temperatures are really a preference. It's not a necessity unless you're doing professional work.

A vast majority of the population don't care (and don't notice) about the changes in color temperature between their phones. Most won't even bother to check. Then there are those who want the "perfect" display and are willing to play the exchange game until it happens. I think both of those are fine. It's your money and you can put whatever arbitrary value you want on the phone to get your monies worth.

But to say there is definite a line between good and bad displays is wrong. There is an acceptable variance by Apple's standards and there will always be an variance. It's just a matter of preference if the variance is acceptable to you. That goes both ways with displays that are too blue or yellow.

TLDR; go with whatever you prefer and if you don't like it exchange or return it.

 

[kre62]

Honestly it surprises me anyone even cares about display color temperatures anymore unless they're obviously piss yellow. Every single device that I've ever gotten with a display (TVs, cell phones, monitors, etc) has had some sort of variance in temperature unless you're paying for a specialized display that is pre-calibrated or you calibrate it yourself. The price argument is really moot when literally any other $1,000 phone, TV or monitor will also display the same variance in temperature between devices.

As someone who stares at a computer screen all day I tend to prefer my displays warmer so I alleviate some eye strain. When I look at the examples of these "crisp white" displays all I literally see is blue.

I will say display temperatures are really a preference. It's not a necessity unless you're doing professional work.

A vast majority of the population don't care (and don't notice) about the changes in color temperature between their phones. Most won't even bother to check. Then there are those who want the "perfect" display and are willing to play the exchange game until it happens. I think both of those are fine. It's your money and you can put whatever arbitrary value you want on the phone to get your monies worth.

But to say there is definite a line between good and bad displays is wrong. There is an acceptable variance by Apple's standards and there will always be an variance. It's just a matter of preference if the variance is acceptable to you. That goes both ways with displays that are too blue or yellow.

TLDR; go with whatever you prefer and if you don't like it exchange or return it.

That would be true if all that was the problem was color temp. In this case, its combined with reduced brightness, reduced contrast, color shift off axis, and for some a lack of pure black which is an OLED calling card.

As an example, my XR on 35% brightness was brighter then the 12 I had at 75% brightness. That means bone crushingly bad battery life for the same brightness level.

The bad screens have implications on all matters of usage of the phone, from accurate colors, to battery life, and likely longevity, as the panels seem to be lower grade.

 

[IndoX]

I'll just offer my own anecdotal experience. Below is my personal 12 Pro compared to my business 8. Both max brightness with true tone off. In person, the 8 has a cooler display while my 12 Pro is warmer. At a glance you could say my 8 has a "better" display.

But the 8 display is too cool. It has more greens compared to the amount of yellow my 12 Pro has. This isn't as obvious in person as it is in the actual photo; the warmer display of my 12 Pro is more obvious. But the thing you will notice is that the 12 Pro is better in terms of color accuracy. Every other color in the photo (reds, blues, greens) are much better on my Pro than the 8. So a warmer display isn't necessarily a bad thing.

Now obviously I'm comparing apples to oranges because it's LCD vs OLED. And sadly, I traded in my 11 Pro yesterday so I can't compare it with my 12 Pro. I stopped comparing displays years ago unless I noticed it was noticeably defective - but it really comes down to preference in the end.

This thread started off with "THERE ARE 100% PISS YELLOW DISPLAYS AND APPLE RETAIL REPLACES DEMO UNITS WITH PERFECT DISPLAYS WITHIN A WEEK" to now throwing out baseless statements like the bad displays are: yellow, lower brightness, shift in color, have reduced contrast, caused the economy to crash and Apple secretly unleashed COVID upon the world. And according to some people this is 70% of all displays. I mean... come on, lol.

I agree with the sentiment of not being happy with your product, return or exchange it. But some of these posts are just straight up hyperbolic. I'm sure if I compared my 12 Pro to another photo it would probably look like **** to someone else. Just stick with what you prefer. 🤷‍♂️

 

[AndrewR23]

I'll just offer my own anecdotal experience. Below is my personal 12 Pro compared to my business 8. Both max brightness with true tone off. In person, the 8 has a cooler display while my 12 Pro is warmer. At a glance you could say my 8 has a "better" display.

But the 8 display is too cool. It has more greens compared to the amount of yellow my 12 Pro has. This isn't as obvious in person as it is in the actual photo; the warmer display of my 12 Pro is more obvious. But the thing you will notice is that the 12 Pro is better in terms of color accuracy. Every other color in the photo (reds, blues, greens) are much better on my Pro than the 8. So a warmer display isn't necessarily a bad thing.

Now obviously I'm comparing apples to oranges because it's LCD vs OLED. And sadly, I traded in my 11 Pro yesterday so I can't compare it with my 12 Pro. I stopped comparing displays years ago unless I noticed it was noticeably defective - but it really comes down to preference in the end.

This thread started off with "THERE ARE 100% PISS YELLOW DISPLAYS AND APPLE RETAIL REPLACES DEMO UNITS WITH PERFECT DISPLAYS WITHIN A WEEK" to now throwing out baseless statements like the bad displays are: yellow, lower brightness, shift in color, have reduced contrast, caused the economy to crash and Apple secretly unleashed COVID upon the world. And according to some people this is 70% of all displays. I mean... come on, lol.

I agree with the sentiment of not being happy with your product, return or exchange it. But some of these posts are just straight up hyperbolic. I'm sure if I compared my 12 Pro to another photo it would probably look like **** to someone else. Just stick with what you prefer. 🤷‍♂️

this picture makes your 12 look cool and blue and your 8 look yellow. how is the 8 cooler?

 

[bob78h]

Been following this thread since I also noticed my 12 Pro has a yellower display than my X.

Has anyone noticed an issue with grays appearing greenish at low brightness? If I have my brightness at min (for example in a dark room), enable dark mode and go to the settings app, all the gray settings items have a noticeably green tint. No issues with blacks like the background which appears pure black.

I haven't seen this mentioned before, wasn't sure if this is expected or a defect. No issues with grays on my X, TBH, this may bother me more than the warmer whites.

 

[IndoX]

this picture makes your 12 look cool and blue and your 8 look yellow. how is the 8 cooler?

Greens are generally harder to categorize because they fall right in between blue and yellow so they vary between cool and warm. Also depending on angle photos are taken it can widely change the appearance. In person the 8 display is much cooler, it does photograph poorly though, I will admit.

 

[theliellama]

I'll just offer my own anecdotal experience. Below is my personal 12 Pro compared to my business 8. Both max brightness with true tone off. In person, the 8 has a cooler display while my 12 Pro is warmer. At a glance you could say my 8 has a "better" display.

But the 8 display is too cool. It has more greens compared to the amount of yellow my 12 Pro has. This isn't as obvious in person as it is in the actual photo; the warmer display of my 12 Pro is more obvious. But the thing you will notice is that the 12 Pro is better in terms of color accuracy. Every other color in the photo (reds, blues, greens) are much better on my Pro than the 8. So a warmer display isn't necessarily a bad thing.

Now obviously I'm comparing apples to oranges because it's LCD vs OLED. And sadly, I traded in my 11 Pro yesterday so I can't compare it with my 12 Pro. I stopped comparing displays years ago unless I noticed it was noticeably defective - but it really comes down to preference in the end.

This thread started off with "THERE ARE 100% PISS YELLOW DISPLAYS AND APPLE RETAIL REPLACES DEMO UNITS WITH PERFECT DISPLAYS WITHIN A WEEK" to now throwing out baseless statements like the bad displays are: yellow, lower brightness, shift in color, have reduced contrast, caused the economy to crash and Apple secretly unleashed COVID upon the world. And according to some people this is 70% of all displays. I mean... come on, lol.

I agree with the sentiment of not being happy with your product, return or exchange it. But some of these posts are just straight up hyperbolic. I'm sure if I compared my 12 Pro to another photo it would probably look like **** to someone else. Just stick with what you prefer. 🤷‍♂️

Thanks for articulating it. I agree with the sentiment of this thread, but not the tinfoil conspiracy theories being peddled as facts. People are free to do as they wish with their $1000+ phones, but no one should be under the assumption that they're fighting some kind of a revolution against the tyranny of Apple by replacing their phones again and again in search of some subjective perfection.

Obviously there are some defective units out there (i.e. brightness issues, uniformity issues, blackscreen issues, and not *just* a yellow screen), but if 70% of the phones had this issue then we can be sure it would have gotten some mainstream coverage.

 

[kre62]

Thanks for articulating it. I agree with the sentiment of this thread, but not the tinfoil conspiracy theories being peddled as facts. People are free to do as they wish with their $1000+ phones, but no one should be under the assumption that they're fighting some kind of a revolution against the tyranny of Apple by replacing their phones again and again in search of some subjective perfection.

Obviously there are some defective units out there (i.e. brightness issues, uniformity issues, blackscreen issues, and not *just* a yellow screen), but if 70% of the phones had this issue then we can be sure it would have gotten some mainstream coverage.

No one is claiming 70% is a real number. Those were example numbers to illustrate a point. I'm amazed at peoples inability to read and comprehend. No wonder our current political environment.

 

[IndoX]

No one is claiming 70% is a real number. Those were example numbers to illustrate a point. I'm amazed at peoples inability to read and comprehend. No wonder our current political environment.

I agree. Throwing out baseless statements and conspiracies' spreads false information. Which leads to statements like the following being made: "Invariably, within 4 days of launch, they will all be swapped for pristine, 100% non yellow phones. Swear to god as my witness. 100% chance they will be swapped."

And that's just one example. No wonder our current political environment. 🤔🤔🤔🤔

 

[javisan]

this picture makes your 12 look cool and blue and your 8 look yellow. how is the 8 cooler?

Agree! Unless the photo is off, that 8 is not cool at all, it is has the same yellow tint we are complaining about. Again, unless the photo is misleading, that is one of the best 12 displays I’ve seen.

Congrats, you won the lotto.

 

[theliellama]

No one is claiming 70% is a real number. Those were example numbers to illustrate a point. I'm amazed at peoples inability to read and comprehend. No wonder our current political environment.

Keep fighting the good fight, Apple can't keep getting away with this! I'll be sure to check this thread's 24th iteration when iPhone 24S comes out. I'm sure Tim would have read this thread by then.

 

[kre62]

I agree. Throwing out baseless statements and conspiracies' spreads false information. Which leads to statements like the following being made: "Invariably, within 4 days of launch, they will all be swapped for pristine, 100% non yellow phones. Swear to god as my witness. 100% chance they will be swapped."

And that's just one example. No wonder our current political environment. 🤔🤔🤔🤔

10 years of perfect display phones. Doesn't matter if its a conspiracy or not, display phones always end up perfect. Not baseless at all to claim that display phones are both good examples of what a good screen should look like, and an excellent thing to compare your phone to to determine if yours is not within spec.

 

[kre62]

Keep fighting the good fight, Apple can't keep getting away with this! I'll be sure to check this thread's 24th iteration when iPhone 24S comes out. I'm sure Tim would have read this thread by then.

Have helped a lot of people over the years get good screens they were happy with, after feeling like something was "off" with their phones. So yes, I'll continue providing this public service as long as Apple keeps shipping bad batches of phones. I don't blame them, people aren't conscious enough to hold them accountable.

 

[theliellama]

10 years of perfect display phones. Doesn't matter if its a conspiracy or not, display phones always end up perfect. Not baseless at all to claim that display phones are both good examples of what a good screen should look like, and an excellent thing to compare your phone to to determine if yours is not within spec.

Didn't most people on this thread say they checked display phones and they are as warm if not warmer than their phones? Hmmm....🤔🤔

 

[kre62]

Didn't most people on this thread say they checked display phones and they are as warm if not warmer than their phones? Hmmm....🤔🤔

One or two did that, and maybe they walked away thinking their phone is fine after all. See how that works?

 

[theliellama]

One or two did that, and maybe they walked away thinking their phone is fine after all. See how that works?

I really like your use of "maybes" and your "example numbers". I do see how you work, good job. Have you thought about working for the current administration?

 

[kre62]

I really like your use of "maybes" and your "example numbers". I do see how you work, good job. Have you thought about working for the current administration?

Is it your position that every iPhone 12 has the exact same panel and calibration? Or is there any variance whatsoever?