Yellow SE screen.

[dcpmark]

I bought my first SE 27th april and received 20th may from China. Detected yellow tint, I called Apple and sent me yesterday a new one from Netherland that arrive home today. It looks as bad as first, even darker on the top. I dont know to call Apple and get a replacement or a refound.

My 5S look amazing, all screen white (left), but reading something in SE its horrible, looks like the screen has been used in the past...

Serious question.....how much time do you spend each day looking at this screen?

Try this experiment......on both devices, go to Safari, or YouTube, or your texting app, or whatever you use your phone for mostly. Then, actually use that app on each device, paying close attention to and interacting with the information being displayed in the app, and then tell us what the difference is between the devices when you are actually using the apps.

You can retrain your brain to realize that a cell phone's purpose is not to display a perfectly-white screen. If you can teach your brain to ignore such superfluous input, I can promise you that you will be a much happier person.

No charge for this cognitive behavioral therapy session.

 

[b777ba]

Serious question.....how much time do you spend each day looking at this screen?

Try this experiment......on both devices, go to Safari, or YouTube, or your texting app, or whatever you use your phone for mostly. Then, actually use that app on each device, paying close attention to and interacting with the information being displayed in the app, and then tell us what the difference is between the devices when you are actually using the apps.

You can retrain your brain to realize that a cell phone's purpose is not to display a perfectly-white screen. If you can teach your brain to ignore such superfluous input, I can promise you that you will be a much happier person.

No charge for this cognitive behavioral therapy session.

I tried it, and my brain is telling me that I'm stupid if I buy something that looks worse than my old 5S.

Your post reminded me Steve Jobs holding his iPhone 4 with two fingers to doesn't lose signal, because everybody were holding it in the wrong way. Maybe with the SE, the problem its from my eyes.

 

[dcpmark]

I tried it, and my brain is telling me that I'm stupid if I buy something that looks worse than my old 5S.

Your post reminded me Steve Jobs holding his iPhone 4 with two fingers to doesn't lose signal, because everybody were holding it in the wrong way. Maybe with the SE, the problem its from my eyes.

Nope, it's your brain. It can be deprogrammed, but only if you want to.

PS: the ability to send and receive calls and data are the primary functions of a cell phone, and any design flaw that prevents or inhibits the primary functions of a cell phone is not acceptable. The color temperature of a screen is just not one of those things, IMHO.

 

[MrGuder]

I bought my first SE 27th april and received 20th may from China. Detected yellow tint, I called Apple and sent me yesterday a new one from Netherland that arrive home today. It looks as bad as first, even darker on the top. I dont know to call Apple and get a replacement or a refound.

My 5S look amazing, all screen white (left), but reading something in SE its horrible, looks like the screen has been used in the past...

If your not happy the decision is easy. Send them both back to Apple and wait for SE 2 or buy something else. No one can convince you to keep something that you don't feel is worth the money like I said the decision is easy.

 

[radiohead14]

I bought my first SE 27th april and received 20th may from China. Detected yellow tint, I called Apple and sent me yesterday a new one from Netherland that arrive home today. It looks as bad as first, even darker on the top. I dont know to call Apple and get a replacement or a refound.

My 5S look amazing, all screen white (left), but reading something in SE its horrible, looks like the screen has been used in the past...

If there's nothing else wrong with the SE (ie. rattling buttons and cheap feeling home button), then I suggest just going to your local Apple store and have them replace the screen. This way you can ask them to pre-screen the display for any issues. This is what I did after a bunch of exchanges. Since the last one I got had perfect buttons and no other issue, I just told them to swap the screen, but only if they guarantee they will swap it with a pre-screened display.

 

[kerrikins]

I tried it, and my brain is telling me that I'm stupid if I buy something that looks worse than my old 5S.

Your post reminded me Steve Jobs holding his iPhone 4 with two fingers to doesn't lose signal, because everybody were holding it in the wrong way. Maybe with the SE, the problem its from my eyes.

The most important factor is whether or not you're happy with it. Personally I agree with you, it's why I returned mine awhile ago - I realized that I shouldn't have to deal with something bother me, even if it's 'small' and I can 'retrain my eyes' or whatever. I wouldn't get a screen placement, I would return it and wait for something you'll be happy with.

 

[dcpmark]

The most important factor is whether or not you're happy with it. Personally I agree with you, it's why I returned mine awhile ago - I realized that I shouldn't have to deal with something bother me, even if it's 'small' and I can 'retrain my eyes' or whatever. I wouldn't get a screen placement, I would return it and wait for something you'll be happy with.

Yeah, I actually agree.....ANY reason it's not to your liking, you should absolutely return it. But here's the thing on "yellow" screens.....unless you are very new to iPhones, or very forgetful, you know that we go through this same thing with pretty much every new iPhone.

Let me take you back to 2012, when the iPhone 5 was introduced. The two biggest complaints? Yellow screens and bluetooth problems (sounds familiar, right, SE owners?). Here's a thread from 2012, and if you read it you will see that people made the same "yellow" screen complaints about every new iPhone PRIOR to the iP5:

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/4324668?tstart=0

Here's the thing that gets lost.....it's an LCD screen, and not only can the color temperature be set in software, but it can change over time. In my experience, IPhone screens get whiter as the adhesive lightens up and you keep using them. The yellowest they are are when you take them new out of the box, so after a period of use, they will be much lighter than your next brand new iPhone out of the box. THe new "SE2" will likely have a more yellow screen initially than your trusty old SE, and we will be right back here with many complaining about it. Yes, there is defintely some variation amongst the new units, and there are definitely some defective screens, but most eventually get to where they are supposed to be.

Anyway, that's my take. No right or wrong.....just food for thought.

 

[robes1]

Here's the thing that gets lost.....it's an LCD screen, and not only can the color temperature be set in software, but it can change over time. In my experience, IPhone screens get whiter as the adhesive lightens up and you keep using them. The yellowest they are are when you take them new out of the box, so after a period of use, they will be much lighter than your next brand new iPhone out of the box. THe new "SE2" will likely have a more yellow screen initially than your trusty old SE, and we will be right back here with many complaining about it. Yes, there is defintely some variation amongst the new units, and there are definitely some defective screens, but most eventually get to where they are supposed to be.

Anyway, that's my take. No right or wrong.....just food for thought.

So is it pretty much a guarantee that a yellow screen on a new phone will disappear after some usage? Asking because I don't want to have a yellow screen several months down the road if I purchase the SE.

 

[jonnyb]

the ability to send and receive calls and data are the primary functions of a cell phone

Indeed. But my iPhone is no more a cell phone to me than my iPad or my Mac. My iPhone is a pocket computer and the fact it has 'phone' in its name is irrelevant.

I make maybe one traditional cell call a week on my iPhone. Where any computing device I own has a screen that covers 70% of its surface, I want it to have a screen that looks consistent across its entire area.

 

[Ugi]

So is it pretty much a guarantee that a yellow screen on a new phone will disappear after some usage? Asking because I don't want to have a yellow screen several months down the road if I purchase the SE.

I read many comments of people having yellowish tint on other iPhone models which did not change a bit over the years. I would not rely on the adhesive theory anymore. If it's yellow return it. iPhones are not the non plus ultra, forget about what marketing told you.

 

[dcpmark]

So is it pretty much a guarantee that a yellow screen on a new phone will disappear after some usage? Asking because I don't want to have a yellow screen several months down the road if I purchase the SE.

No, no guarantees, so if you are unable to unsee the color temp of your screen, I would strongly suggest that you not get an SE and/or move to Android.

 

[PaladinGuy]

I don't have much experience with OLED screens, other than my Apple Watch, but it seems like LCD screens are more problematic. Much worse on issues of shadowing/backlight bleed, yellowing, uneven lighting. Seems like maybe it's less likely to notice inconsistencies with OLED screens?? I'm just guessing. Anyone have experience with this?

 

[dcpmark]

I don't have much experience with OLED screens, other than my Apple Watch, but it seems like LCD screens are more problematic. Much worse on issues of shadowing/backlight bleed, yellowing, uneven lighting. Seems like maybe it's less likely to notice inconsistencies with OLED screens?? I'm just guessing. Anyone have experience with this?

No, i think you are right about OLED screens, and if Apple ever switches that should be the last we hear about yellow screens.

Until that happens, I honestly feel sorry for those who are sensitive to screen color temp, and are constantly drawn to screen temp differences. They would be so much happier if they could learn to "unsee" it.

 

[b777ba]

No, i think you are right about OLED screens, and if Apple ever switches that should be the last we hear about yellow screens.

Until that happens, I honestly feel sorry for those who are sensitive to screen color temp, and are constantly drawn to screen temp differences. They would be so much happier if they could learn to "unsee" it.

In your previous life, you worked to the Inquisition: the Earth its plain, and the clouds, "yellow"

 

[dcpmark]

In your previous life, you worked to the Inquisition: the Earth its plain, and the clouds, "yellow"

I guess I was too busy looking at the vast amount of information the clouds contained to notice the color of them.

 

[Ugi]

No, i think you are right about OLED screens, and if Apple ever switches that should be the last we hear about yellow screens.

Until that happens, I honestly feel sorry for those who are sensitive to screen color temp, and are constantly drawn to screen temp differences. They would be so much happier if they could learn to "unsee" it.

There is nothing to learn.if you pay 600-1000€ the screen needs to be flawless!period. Other manufacturers like HTC or others are easily able to deliver Crystal clear white Screens, why not Apple?
Apple makes money of people ignoring such quality issues.people are blended by the pretended image of apple.
Im really really glad, that I got a refund for my 6splus even after 4 months of usage and did not get the recycled i5 afterwards

 

[dcpmark]

There is nothing to learn.if you pay 600-1000€ the screen needs to be flawless!period. Other manufacturers like HTC or others are easily able to deliver Crystal clear white Screens, why not Apple?
Apple makes money of people ignoring such quality issues.people are blended by the pretended image of apple.
Im really really glad, that I got a refund for my 6splus even after 4 months of usage and did not get the recycled i5 afterwards

Only a fool thinks he has nothing to learn.

You have assigned the words "quality" and "flawless" to descibe a "crystal clear white" screen. There is nothing wrong with that, but the preference of a particular color temperature is definitely subjective, with many actually preferring a warmer screen that is not quite as harsh on the eyes:

http://www.iphonelife.com/blog/87/d...too-blueish-or-just-too-harsh-bedtime-reading
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4/general/amoled-color-warmer-displays-cooler-t3019040
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/do-you-prefer-cooler-or-warmer-screens-for-reading.1690760/

Apple just introduced Night Shift as a feature, which warms the temperature of the display to reduce eye strain at night, and it has been very favorably received by the reviews I've seen.

http://www.gottabemobile.com/2016/01/28/why-ios-9-3-night-shift-is-a-huge-deal/
http://www.fastcodesign.com/3055368/night-shift-could-be-ioss-most-important-ux-improvement-in-years

But I am not trying to "teach" you that a warmer screen is better than a cooler screen. I am merely suggesting that it's possible to teach your brain to not assign absolutes as "flawless" to consumer electronic devices, which have inherent variations and which also can change over time, and to NOT CARE about the color temperature of a blank white screen, mostly by focusing on the using the cell phone as it was intended to be used. That's what cognitive behavioral therapy does. And I can promise you that if you can learn not to care, you would be a much happier person. Think of all the time, effort, and mental cycles wasted on buying, returning, exchanging, and stressing over the slight variations in color temperatures on a screen.

Or, you could just go back to HTC. I LOVED my Droid Incredible before I switched to iPhones....the Thunderbolt not as much, but the point is I can switch back and forth easily because my brain assigns zero value to slightly warmer or cooler screens. It's better not to care, IMHO.

 

[Ugi]

As Long as there are models with crystal white screens in the Apple stores and other electronic stores, any yellw screen out of th box is a flaw. Period. I know ignorance is bliss, but paying money for a phone which is the monthly income of some people is a pain in the ass when seeing piss yellow screens affecting the colours. Night shift is nice for the nights, not for the days.

 

[dcpmark]

As Long as there are models with crystal white screens in the Apple stores and other electronic stores, any yellw screen out of th box is a flaw. Period. I know ignorance is bliss, but paying money for a phone which is the monthly income of some people is a pain in the ass when seeing piss yellow screens affecting the colours. Night shift is nice for the nights, not for the days.

You are entitled to your opinion that a slightly warmer screen is "a flaw," and that people who don't share your requirement of a "crystal white screen" are somehow ignorant. And I'm of the opinion that if an iPhone costs you one month's income, you should not have an iPhone. It's just a cell phone, and no one NEEDS an iPhone....there are WAY cheaper ways to text, get email, surf the net, Snapchat, Instagram, and look at YouTube videos.

You are also entitled to the opinion that the color temperature of the SE screen negatively affects colors when compared to other iPhones, but a more knowledgeable source disagrees with your opinion:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/10285/the-iphone-se-review/4

 

[jonnyb]

For me the problem isn't an overly yellow screen or an overly blue or pink screen. The crucial factor is the inconsistency displayed on different areas of the screen. On my SE there is a more yellow band at the top. It's annoying and, on some screens, distracting. Is it liveable with? Sure, but I'd rather have a consistently coloured screen whether more blue, more pink or more yellow.

 

[dcpmark]

For me the problem isn't an overly yellow screen or an overly blue or pink screen. The crucial factor is the inconsistency displayed on different areas of the screen. On my SE there is a more yellow band at the top. It's annoying and, on some screens, distracting. Is it liveable with? Sure, but I'd rather have a consistently coloured screen whether more blue, more pink or more yellow.

Yes, my SE screen is the same....a slight band of yellowing at the top. However, for me it's only noticeable it if I am displaying a blank white screen, which is something I don't use my phone for. Ever. It is not noticeable for me as I use the phone because I'm not looking for it, and I'm paying attention to the info that the app screen is displaying. When I text or email, I'm looking at the words, not the color temp of the white space around the words. When I watch a video, i'm watching the content, not trying to glimpse the pure white fragments to see if they are white enough.

As I said, I feel sorry for those who are sensitive to and just can't unnotice the color temps variations of LCD screens. That said, the color temp is software controlled, and this whole issue would be dead if Apple allowed their customers to set their own color preferences to their liking, or to compensate for production variations.

By the way, my band of yellow on my particular SE is definitely much lighter now than it was when I got it on March 31, and I keep my screen at 50% Auto.

 

[radiohead14]

I don't have much experience with OLED screens, other than my Apple Watch, but it seems like LCD screens are more problematic. Much worse on issues of shadowing/backlight bleed, yellowing, uneven lighting. Seems like maybe it's less likely to notice inconsistencies with OLED screens?? I'm just guessing. Anyone have experience with this?

I've owned quite a bunch of both LCD (Sony Xperias, HTC) and OLED (Samsung Galaxy) phones, and they both can look great IF quality panels are used.. which is not the case with Apple here (QA consistency-wise). There was a time when OLED's had the blotchy issues, but those have been mostly corrected after the S3 (which is why it's utterly pathetic that Apple hasn't done a thing to correct their panel quality assurance since the 4). The LCD panels I've had in all my Xperias have had real good contrast and black levels as well with even lighting. This is why I call BS to those who keep insisting that the yellow panels Apple uses is normal and only a product of it being new. That's total BS as every single LCD Xperia and HTC phones I've had came with balanced panels right out of the box. This is Apple cost cutting with cheaper panels, or they just don't care about correcting their quality assurance.

 

[dcpmark]

This is why I call BS to those who keep insisting that the yellow panels Apple uses is normal and only a product of it being new. That's total BS as every single LCD Xperia and HTC phones I've had came with balanced panels right out of the box. This is Apple cost cutting with cheaper panels, or they just don't care about correcting their quality assurance.

Your one-person sample-size aside, cheapness has nothing to do with this. Have you ever jailbroken an iPhone? If you did, you would know you can change the color temp of any iPhone screen to as cool white as you want. Removes any and all yellow spotting or banding. Which means that Apple can also set the color temperature as cool as ice for every LCD panel they have put in every single iPhone they have ever made, and it would cost them NOTHING. For whatever reason, this is what they have chosen. They sell millions of phones, and a tiny fraction complain about the "yellow" screens.

If the uniform cool white screens of Xperia and HTC phones out of the box what you want, they are available for purchase. You are dead wrong if you think you are in the majority of iPhone purchasers.

 

[Retired Cat]

Your one-person sample-size aside, cheapness has nothing to do with this. Have you ever jailbroken an iPhone? If you did, you would know you can change the color temp of any iPhone screen to as cool white as you want. Removes any and all yellow spotting or banding. Which means that Apple can also set the color temperature as cool as ice for every LCD panel they have put in every single iPhone they have ever made, and it would cost them NOTHING. For whatever reason, this is what they have chosen. They sell millions of phones, and a tiny fraction complain about the "yellow" screens.

If the uniform cool white screens of Xperia and HTC phones out of the box what you want, they are available for purchase. You are dead wrong if you think you are in the majority of iPhone purchasers.

Are people talking about the same issue here?

My current iPhone 5 has a very faint pink rectangular shape that covers most of the display. The borders appear yellow-ish in contrast. My first iPhone 5 had a very distinct pink rectangle after a year of use, so I'm pretty sure that is something physical and not a software setting.

Software calibration is a different issue.

 

[radiohead14]

Your one-person sample-size aside, cheapness has nothing to do with this. Have you ever jailbroken an iPhone? If you did, you would know you can change the color temp of any iPhone screen to as cool white as you want. Removes any and all yellow spotting or banding. Which means that Apple can also set the color temperature as cool as ice for every LCD panel they have put in every single iPhone they have ever made, and it would cost them NOTHING. For whatever reason, this is what they have chosen. They sell millions of phones, and a tiny fraction complain about the "yellow" screens.

If the uniform cool white screens of Xperia and HTC phones out of the box what you want, they are available for purchase. You are dead wrong if you think you are in the majority of iPhone purchasers.

you seem to be stuck on the thought that we are talking about a uniform yellow screen.. which we are NOT. and I've already said before that I don't mind a warm screen IF it was uniform. also, show me where in that previous post of mine did I say ANYTHING about "cool" screens. again, I've had Apple techs show me via their diagnostics tool that the exchanged iPhones I've had clearly had uneven and blotchy yellow anomalies. are you saying they are also wrong?? and AGAIN.. they tried to calibrate it, and said that the panels did indeed have defects. I don't get why you keep trying to tell me that what I've exchanged could be called normal. just get over yourself. i don't know why you're on this crusade to disagree with people who have had genuine issues here.
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Are people talking about the same issue here?

My current iPhone 5 has a very faint pink rectangular shape that covers most of the display. The borders appear yellow-ish in contrast. My first iPhone 5 had a very distinct pink rectangle after a year of use, so I'm pretty sure that is something physical and not a software setting.

Software calibration is a different issue.

don't even bother with that guy. he's so convinced that Apple can do no wrong and that the people who genuinely have had phones with QA issues are wrong.