Except that the people who will be buying it are pleased that Apple chose to make it at this price point, and not make the sacrifices that some of the other companies have. Some things don't come cheap and they're worth it. Glad to have Apple doing this kind of research and producing with high-end components. It won't be for everyone.
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Your Mac and Apple Vision Pro: What You Can Do (and What You Can't)
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There is one in the house, set up with a "family" iCloud account, and it's passed around to those who want to use it. Can't share this between people (easily).
I don't think the Vision Pro going to flop, I just think Apple made some very bad choices...
There is going to be a downside to using the VP and that is advertisers. There will be some, possible many advertising companies out their licking their lips at the prospect of having a clients advert being shown in full sized glory in a VP. they will find a way to do it, ethics and morals and legality be damned. How many websites will include cookies that will specifically check to see if a VP is connected to the mac machine and if it detects one will then display adverts in all their full large sized glory. At the present moment many website adverts are imbedded into the webpage of the website but what will happen if the website detects a VP is connected, will it have code that will have the website appear as though it has popped out of the webpage and displaying at full size? because we all know advertising companies do not give a damn about us users and the inconvenience their clients adverts can be to us.
My understanding is that you don’t have to fiddle around with your hands in the air. You “aim” with your eyes, and then you “click” by tapping your thumb and index finger together wherever your hand happens to be resting. It’s not like Minority Report.Those are more subtle and people dont fiddle around with their hands in the air to navigate around something no one else but themselves can see though. Imagine you want to hit play on a movie using your Vision Pro on a plane and suddenly you have your finger stuck into your neighbours nose
Of course, you won’t be playing Beat Saber on a plane.
Tim you’re working hard to push this.
This isn’t the iPhone. Just stop it.
This can be the HomePod. The AirPod max. The Mac Pro.
Is that a bad thing?
I was blown away the second I saw the iPhone demoed.
I'm not sure anyone was blown away by this thing.
Even the people who are excited by it don't seem to think it's anything like as revolutionary as the iPhone was.
My understanding is that you don’t have to fiddle around with your hands in the air. You “aim” with your eyes, and then you “click” by tapping your thumb and index finger together wherever your hand happens to be resting. It’s not like Minority Report.
Of course, you won’t be playing Beat Saber on a plane.
ah yes, I completely forgot the eye tracking part of Vision Pro
True, in the cinema on the giant screen 3D worked well, at home, I still have my 42” 3D TV, it felt limited due to the screen size, to me it felt cramped coming out of the small screen, compared to a cinema, I haven’t used the 3D on my TV in years.
iPhone prices were adjusted immediately, and in this case we are not speaking about $600, not even taking inflation into account
That’s a lot of work and extra battery packs JUST to have a larger screen. I recommend checking out XReal’s TRUE AR offerings. You are making a lot of compromises just to convince yourself this devices is needed for you. Also the question is, how long before Apple Vision Pro’s are BANNED on flights due to the inability of the wearer to pay attention to safety of themselves and others on a flight? Noise cancellation headphones are one thing but a person not being able to hear OR see during an emergency? I know I won’t be convincing you not to purchase an AVP due to your continued rhetoric about “how great Apple Vision Pro is” but there are WAY too many negatives and compromises that people are ignoring (yourself included) just because they are DIEHARD Apple followers.
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Those are more subtle and people dont fiddle around with their hands in the air to navigate around something no one else but themselves can see though. Imagine you want to hit play on a movie using your Vision Pro on a plane and suddenly you have your finger stuck into your neighbours nose
This "flailing" thing is invented. If you watch the WWDC video, you will see the asian lady interacting with Vpro using hand gestures. Her hands are barely moving and stay in her lap. Look at this wild arm flailing clearly likely to end up with her finger in a fellow airplane passengers nose...
I think this imagination is driven by seeing commercials for gaming on Meta goggles. In that kind of app, part of the goal is to get the user moving more than only a finger & thumb. I would guess that similar gaming and fitness apps for Vpro will involve moving much more aggressively than what is shown in that video. However, I'm not thinking someone is going to try to do a robust workout jammed into an airplane seat... or at least will hope not.
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What? As soon as the iPhone came out, everyone else was trying to emulate it, with Google's CEO dropping off Apple's Board within six months so Google could steal it and call it Android (As I recall from Steve Jobs rage at him and Google shortly after Android came out). I bought my first iPhone the day after it came out. In the car, on the way home, I called my Retirement Wealth Manager and told him to immediately port 20% of my portfolio to Apple (no, I am not a rich man now, because, as smart as that was, I then sold it during the Great Recession and only made a little bit of money, yes, it was the best of times and the worst of times).
I tried using my iPad Pro with sidecar, and the amount of CPU needed to compress the data sent to the iPad is insane. What makes anyone think they can do this in stereo with higher resolution and framerates without severely taxing your laptop?
It hurts my neck just going from the Apple menu to the trash can in the lower right corner on a 27" monitor. I don't know why I would want a huge virtual monitor.
For you. For me? Apple has developed what appears to be an amazing device that will be transformative in the way I work and interact with my projects.
Exactly. Self driving EVs have been deemed “the” future. Not my future.
Apple has built a "travel mode" into VisionOS to account for such things:
Apple Vision Pro Travel Mode
and you gonna wear that **** 8hrs on your face?
Well there you go then: that's my reason for not buying one.
Whilst the gaming potential is good, I don't play games enough. Likewise with films, I have a large TV and a sound system and I watch films with my partner, so doing this on my own is unlikely, unless I'm on a flight and I already carry an iPad and AirPod Max for that.
I postponed buying a new iMac because the screen size was too small for me and instead bought a family member's late 2020 27" iMac from them last year to replace my 2012 one which was still working well. The alternative was a Mac mini and a new monitor but the price was right.
So now if I want to squander £3,500 on the Vision Pro, I'm expected to spend another £2,500 first?
No thanks.
There’s a craft beer and distillery in my town that sells their beer for $8/glass. The bar down the street sells Bud Light for $2 a bottle. The $8 beer is going gangbusters, gets rave reviews, has been in magazine articles.. It's very successful. Just saying.