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YouTuber Claims 15-Inch MacBook Pro With Upgraded Core i9 Chip is Severely Throttled Due to Thermal Issues
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Even if it did, I doubt other components are happy with these levels of heat. Specially the battery.
Wondered how my 2015 i7 MBP held up to the Prime 95 torture test. It boosted immediately but couldn't hold it for more than a few seconds. After that it hovered around base clock, a little below, a little above for a while until the fan really got up to speed, then it hovered a little above base. Seems like all that is a reasonable expectation of how a laptop of the form factor should work.
Screenshot cropped at the right to take out where I stopped. I missed the boost in the screenshot but it was literally just a few seconds.
Screenshot cropped at the right to take out where I stopped. I missed the boost in the screenshot but it was literally just a few seconds.
I'm curious how your battery life got fixed with a software update. Mine stayed as ****** as it was, nothing compared to my old 2013 MBP. The only thing I remember Apple doing was removing the "Time remaining" from the taskbar, solving effectively nothing, and another small change that nobody ever confirmed changed anything.
Everytime I hear "will be fixed with an update", I immediatly think denial. In most cases, this just never happens. People just forget and move on, that's all
Some people here are saying get the i7, get the i7. Methinks it would be best to just wait a bit to pull the trigger on ANY of these...if only for a week or two. Nobody has said the 6 core i7 is any better....they said the 7th gen Quad performed better. What's a couple of weeks?
To those who have said perhaps this can be attributed to the silicone shielding in the keyboard restricting airflow, I say kudos. I believe the 6 core i7 will have this same problem (albeit with slightly less impact) and I believe the issue will be narrowed down to this...<whisper>and the thing is just too thin.
To those who have said perhaps this can be attributed to the silicone shielding in the keyboard restricting airflow, I say kudos. I believe the 6 core i7 will have this same problem (albeit with slightly less impact) and I believe the issue will be narrowed down to this...<whisper>and the thing is just too thin.
Battery life can be fixed with an update because you can adjust power management via software update.
Aside from forcing fans to rotate beyond their current design, there's literally nothing in software you can do about thermal efficiency, if its designed this way, you cannot fix it.
I use most of CPU power on my 2012 rMBP quadcore on large projects. "Automations" are not CPU intensive, highly detailed modeling plugins, synths, and processors are. Samplers also arent cpu intensive.
So, 50 tracks can be super-cpu intensive, or if its just unmixed audio, literally without any CPU issues.
I can't run more than a handful instances of u-he Repro-5 before my quadcore croaks.
It doesn't matter whether its native app or third party - if it cannot stress the cpu for sometime, it will do so everytime cpu is tasked 100%, no matter which app does it.
The fact that 2017 QUADCORE i7 under normal (non-freezer) circumstances fared so much better is alarming.
The problem is that it cannot hold its BASE SPEED (2.9GHz), not that it cannot hold the turbo boost.
my gf got the i9 variant. i don't think we will end up returning it because she does not use it for rendering, or use the mbp where sustained cpu utilization of 100% be a factor.
really sad that they marketed this towards content creators and they would be hit hardest by this.
really sad that they marketed this towards content creators and they would be hit hardest by this.
I was curious as well, but if you remember the debacle, people (myself included) were getting 4-5 hours of battery life on the 15” TB MBP. When Apple released their update that claimed to fix it it, I would get a solid 8 hours without changing my usage habits.
Has she used it for an extended period? My i9 was delivered today, but I ordered an i7 as I plan to return the i9.
That means nothing! Logan Paul had tons of followers etc and erm well let us just say that he seems to be a pork pie short of a picnic.
I mean nobody can say he is normal when he comes across a dead body as a result of them committing suicide and he laughs and jokes about it. Then he gets reprimanded by Youtube only to refuse to do as told1
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One guy who thinks he is a genius posts some vid on youtube and shows one potential problem on one MacBook and you panic.!
But it is Intel's fault for designing a CPU that seems to run away thermally so easily and with such major issues as Intel seems to keep having.
Apple can only work with what they have.
The only way I can think they'll be able to achieve such a "fix" through software is by limiting performance.
It's the CPU temperature. The temperature at the battery would be far less. I don't have iStat so not sure what it would have been, but I'm going to go out on a limb and say that if the OS detects the system temperature is too high it will slow down the CPU. The scaling is likely not based exclusively on CPU temperature alone.
I could be wrong.
But right or wrong, it was just an example of a specific process and was on the edge of scope. We're not out of scope I feel.
Yes, Apple shoved the new, albeit marvelous, processors into an inadequate chassis and "tested" them. They worked - that was their scientific Alpha test.
Then, they released it with subtle pomp upon all the professionals waiting for a Pro laptop, because they didn't see a Pro desktop in the near future. That is Apple's Beta test, probably pass for a scientific approach!
The discussions happening about this issue are the results of the Beta test coming in, and Apple has to act on them.
Let us see what they do.
It only runs away thermally if it doesn't have appropriate cooling. That would be on Apple's shoulders, not Intels.
So what you're saying is that it's physically impossible to have a laptop with an i9 that will run maintain load at the base clock speed with "reasonable" turbo usage, regardless of the thermodynamic design of the surrounding laptop?
This begs the question: Why did she pay more for the i9 if she's not going to utilize it to its full potential?
Then I got to thinking, maybe the two extra cores at, say 80%, utilization (and without throttling down) may outperform a quad core at 100% utilization. Never really tested this theory to see if there's any merit to it.
The top of the line 2018 machine should have better performance than the top of the line 2017 machine for typical “pro” jobs. Not that hard to define the problem here.
Perhaps if the laptop was just a little thicker it would allow more air to flow around and out the vents. People seem to care so much about the thickness of a laptop these days. I would rather it be a little thicker with better battery life,larger speakers for better audio volume and more space for better cooking. Not sure though how much thicker it would need to be for all this to happen
There is no evidence that the cpu exceeds its spec’d TDP. If it is doing what the specification say it should do, then it’s apple’s problem.
The new model with the basic CPU might be adequate enough for everyone if it runs much cooler and offers better battery life. For those on the road it would make a difference but for those where laptops sits on a desk it makes no difference
Or by better and more responsive fan management. Too many questions. Too many people aimlessly theorising and blaming. Not enough answers. Patience is going to be how I handle this issue.
Maybe. But the top of the line model might run slower than the base model, which, again, is a problem.