Zune HD Hands on Demo and Impressions

[Treq]

Not to be a jerk, but you're kidding yourself if you think nothing Microsoft has done has been good. Don't forget that Windows had multi-processor/SMP support, pre-emptive multi-tasking, and full hardware video decoding well before, sometimes years before Mac OS. Apple's role as leader stopped when it took it 5 years to get basic features in OS X that Windows 95 had, and more than 10 years for Snow Leopard to finally get video playback that Windows 98 had.

Dude, what color is the sky in you world? None of that crap ever worked worth a damn. Trust me, my first PC was a 286 12Mhz 40MB HD. I had a couple dozen PCs over the 17 years I was a PC guy. I used every version of DOS from v2.6. Every version of windows all the way to XP SP2. None of it, was any good. I bought my first Mac 2.5 years ago and I still love it. So much so I bought another...

 

[Macminiintel]

I mean 'like' if you can read that back without seeing how absurd it sounds, you are the perfect example of the effects of the RDF.

why does it sound absurd, the iPod has been an established name since 2001 The sony bean is UGLY & so is the Zune and this Zune HD

 

[trekkie604]

ha ha lol RDF isn't that Steve Jobs affect on the Mac people working on the Macintosh project lol

More like turning people into blind sheep.

 

[Macminiintel]

More like turning people into blind sheep.

if steve hadn't have done what he'd done the mac wouldn't have been as good as it was. sure he may seem kinda bad, but I have respect for him. He wanted great things from everyone, and not everyone can do this,

More like turning people into blind sheep.

if you don't like apple why are you on Mac forums then??

 

[trekkie604]

Uh oh, I don't blindly follow the RDF. Obviously it makes me an Apple HATER! Where in my posts did I say anything even remotely close to that?

Also, why are you replying to my single post with two of yours? That is odd.

 

[Treq]

if you don't like apple why are you on Mac forums then??

Why wouldn't anyone like apple? They make the best computers.

 

[Macminiintel]

Uh oh, I don't blindly follow the RDF. Obviously it makes me an Apple HATER! Where in my posts did I say anything even remotely close to that?

Also, why are you replying to my single post with two of yours? That is odd.

give me a reason in what way did my comment sound absurd,

Why wouldn't anyone like apple? They make the best computers.

yes I know but some user doesn't think, I live apple lol, i got 6 macs and collection is expanding lol

 

[Treq]

What the heck is RDF?

 

[Macminiintel]

What the heck is RDF?

oh its Reality Distortion field

Reality distortion field is a term coined by Bud Tribble at Apple Inc. in 1981, to describe company co-founder Steve Jobs' charisma and its effects on the developers working on the Mac projec

 

[trekkie604]

give me a reason in what way did my comment sound absurd,

OK

OMG, how can anyone says thats nice looking??, its one of the ugliest devices I have ever seen in my life even more so than that god awful Sony Bean thing.

Better U.I than the iPod touch, yeah I doubt it LOL, Apple are visionaries when it comes to stuff like this and Microsoft are well err Microsoft doing everything badly.

I think its time Microsoft to scrap the whole Zune project, the iPod is already an established name and has been since 2001, your not really going to catch up now are you LOL

1. Microsoft does everything badly? Holy, go back a few pages on this thread and there is a healthy discussion as to the products MS has produced which benefit the industry as a whole.

2. So, if one product is established no one else can try their hand at it? It's completely undefeatable? Obviously you didn't grow up in the 80s and have a Sony Walkman.

 

[Macminiintel]

OK



1. Microsoft does everything badly? Holy, go back a few pages on this thread and there is a healthy discussion as to the products MS has produced which benefit the industry as a whole.

2. So, if one product is established no one else can try their hand at it? It's completely undefeatable? Obviously you didn't grow up in the 80s and have a Sony Walkman.

okay well what really have Microsoft done,

the desktop was from Xerox and Apple,

Xbox is a games consul already been done and done badly since they always break. I had 5 they all overheated one of my m8s is on his 8th, I am so sick i couldnt be bothered anymore with them

Vista is poorly copied from OS X

nothing what Microsoft done is a original idea

have you seen the sony bean its awful, it looks like its pregnant fat on one end skinny on the other.

do you really think Microsoft is going to beat apple's iPod lol, of course not the Zune is a failure.

 

[Treq]

oh its Reality Distortion field

Reality distortion field is a term coined by Bud Tribble at Apple Inc. in 1981, to describe company co-founder Steve Jobs' charisma and its effects on the developers working on the Mac projec

Oh... thanks. Never noticed any charisma really. Great products though.
Always work, rain or shine. IMHO.

 

[trekkie604]

What the heck is RDF?

1. RDF

Reality distortion field. Term coined Bud Tribble of Apple to describe Steve Jobs' uncanny ability to charm the masses. This causes Apple fans to exaggerate advancements and praise sub-par technology.
"Wow, even more Mac hype. How does Jobs get such a devout following even when he continues to churn out low quality tech?"
"They're caught in his RDF, brah."

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=RDF

 

[Treq]

1. RDF

Reality distortion field. Term coined Bud Tribble of Apple to describe Steve Jobs' uncanny ability to charm the masses. This causes Apple fans to exaggerate advancements and praise sub-par technology.
"Wow, even more Mac hype. How does Jobs get such a devout following even when he continues to churn out High quality tech?"
"They're caught in his RDF, brah."

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=RDF

Fixed!

 

[peterdevries]

The sony bean is UGLY & so is the Zune and this Zune HD

I think a quote from Jeffrey Lebowski applies here:

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man

 

[Macminiintel]

Fixed!

glad someone fixed it, Apple's tech is not low quality. I don't know of any other computer company what carves there Laptops via lazier out of a brick of aluminum do you lol

 

[Treq]

glad someone fixed it, Apple's tech is not low quality. I don't know of any other computer company what carves there Laptops via lazier out of a brick of aluminum do you lol

I wonder if they use sharks with frikin laser beams to do it?

 

[Macminiintel]

I think a quote from Jeffrey Lebowski applies here:

its not my opinion the iPod has been out since 2001, the sony bean is UGLY because, sony even said it wasn't very stylish and I think they changed its design or may have dropped it completely. The Zune has been a failure, you only have to look at sales, most people tell me reason why zune failed is because of the way it looks and why does anyone want a brown music player??, I know you can get other colors, but still why brown in the first place

 

[trekkie604]

okay well what really have Microsoft done,

the desktop was from Xerox and Apple,

Xbox is a games consul already been done and done badly since they always break. I had 5 they all overheated one of my m8s is on his 8th, I am so sick i couldnt be bothered anymore with them

Vista is poorly copied from OS X

nothing what Microsoft done is a original idea

have you seen the sony bean its awful, it looks like its pregnant fat on one end skinny on the other.

do you really think Microsoft is going to beat apple's iPod lol, of course not the Zune is a failure.

lol, sorry I can't respond to that. It's too hilarious. But let me say, in the eyes of your Lord Steve, you're perfect.

 

[Treq]

its not my opinion the iPod has been out since 2001, the sony bean is UGLY because, sony even said it wasn't very stylish and I think they changed its design or may have dropped it completely. The Zune has been a failure, you only have to look at sales, most people tell me reason why zune failed is because of the way it looks and why does anyone want a brown music player??, I know you can get other colors, but still why brown in the first place

It came in Brown? LOL. Bet that color didn't sell very well. must have sold 2 out of the total 30 world-wide.

 

[Macminiintel]

It came in Brown? LOL. Bet that color didn't sell very well.

yeah you could can get brown, pink, white black and I think now blue, and they are real dismally colored, not vibrant . No where near as colorful as Apple's iPod nano range

 

[peterdevries]

its not my opinion the iPod has been out since 2001, the sony bean is UGLY because, sony even said it wasn't very stylish and I think they changed its design or may have dropped it completely. The Zune has been a failure, you only have to look at sales, most people tell me reason why zune failed is because of the way it looks and why does anyone want a brown music player??, I know you can get other colors, but still why brown in the first place

Sorry, I was only reacting to the part where you say stuff is ugly. I corrected my previous post.

What is ugly and what is not, is not for you or Sony to say. Even if they produced something themselves ad call it ugly, it could still be a beautiful prodcut to other people.

Post a picture of your wife/girfriend if you dare. I'm sure that many people would disagree with you that she is pretty, even though you think she is (I hope).. Taste and opinions are personal..

 

[MadMacxxx]

I give up...there are actually people who just accept the spoon fed crap apple feeds them.


I am sure the iPhone will NEVER do multi-tasking simply cause it wastes too much battery too right?


(points to the plethora of phones that multi-task).

Its amazing how threatened the Apple fans are by this product.

I've read all kinds of nonsense made up by Apple fans that try to discount just how good it actually is.

Now you have someone saying OLED screens have short life spans? The average life span is about 50,000 hours. If you're watching the screen for 8 hours a day, that means it will be good for about 6,250 days. Divide that by 365 and that turns out to be well over 17 years.

Theres other things too. "It won't have an app store" First, how do you know? Second, who cares? As long as it has some decent games, it doesn't need the fart apps, period tracking apps, and other nonsense that plagues the iTunes App Store.

I even read someone saying that it will have less memory and cost more than an iPod touch. To someone like that I also say, how do you know?

So far the rumors of this running the nvidia Tegra chipset seems to be true. Combine the Tegra (with the GeForce ULV it sports) and the latest revision of Windows CE, and you've got Direct3D Mobile, DirectShow (hardware accelerated video!), OpenGL ES 2.0. The GeForce ULV also sports programmable shaders. You basically have a very small GeForce 3 packed into something slightly larger than the iPod touch.

Windows CE + Direct3D Mobile + GeForce ULV + integration with the Xbox360 = a device that could very well take the iPod touches position in mobile gaming. At the very least it will have better games and graphics.

Come on Apple fans, don't be so threatened by this device. Competition is good. Don't be upset just because Apple will have to port iPhone OS to another platform to be able to catch up and it could take them a couple of years to do it.

Don't be loyal to one company. Enjoy ALL good products. Brand loyalty only limits you in the long run and makes you miss out on some great things.

You both saved me from having to respond. Right on the money...

 

[Macminiintel]

lol, sorry I can't respond to that. It's too hilarious. But let me say, in the eyes of your Lord Steve, you're perfect.

why is it hilarious everything i had said there is true??

Sorry, I was only reacting to the part where you say stuff is ugly. I corrected my previous post.

What is ugly and what is not, is not for you or Sony to say. Even if they produced something themselves ad call it ugly, it could still be a beautiful prodcut to other people.

Post a picture of your wife/girfriend if you dare. I'm sure that many people would disagree with you that she is pretty, even though you think she is (I hope).. Taste and opinions are personal..

well I guess your right in away lol, i still don't think it will do very well the zune HD without an app store though

 

[Treq]

yeah you could can get brown, pink, white black and I think now blue, and they are real dismally colored, not vibrant . No where near as colorful as Apple's iPod nano range

Blue? This Shade of Blue?