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The issue of cost aside, I'm undecided as to how this would be useful for me. As mentioned in another post I too find it fairly redundant.

I completely stopped wearing a watch when cellphones made them irrelevant. I don't see anything that would make me jump up and say 'I gotta have this!'

I don't understand why it isn't more comfortable and easy to glance at my wrist to see the time versus taking my phone out of my pocket. So I still get a lot of use out of my watch. It also looks nice. I suspect the Apple Watch will have some good uses. It may not be worth my giving up my watch to wear it. But if you aren't currently wearing a watch, then this will by a nice addition for you. You have an unoccupied wrist and so have space for this device.
 
A survey that doesn't include pricing is useless. Sure everyone's a buyer until its 600 dollars.
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I am on that 10%

I'm on the 10%, and what's the news with "only 10%" buying it?

Don't think Apple, Samsung, etc.. will be losing money on these devices.

However, for sure, is that after the early adopters buy a smart watch, millions of people who answered "not likely" will want one once they see the early adopters using theirs on commuting/work/school/leisure.
 
I'm on the fence. I haven't worn a watch since the battery died in mine in 2001. Now that I'm retired, I really don't need one. That said, I'm interested in Apple Pay and if the watch allows me to use Apple Pay with my iPhone 5s I may consider it... depending on the price. I consider it an insurance policy against credit card theft and a 'cost of using my credit card'. If it doesn't work with Apple Pay, I'm definitely out and may have to pass my 5s to my sister and get a 6 or just hold off for a couple of years.
 
I've heard through the Silicon Valley grapevine that the target market demographic is primarily women. This will be a fashion accessory and tech gaget. Look at the new hires apple has make in the past 12 months and the Paris reveal and this becomes self evident. Interchangeable bands, loads of colors ...,this is first and foremost a fashion statement with tech wrapped around it.

That's fairly obvious based on the particular designs offered. The rose gold and the yellow gold/red leather Edition watches in particular seem to be targeted at women, and there is also a pink band available with the stainless steel version. It's a smart move. Women make up a majority of consumers, and up to now all of the "smartwatches" out there have been geared toward men.

I think Apple would be elated if 10% of iPhone buyers actually wind up purchasing an Apple Watch next year.

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Does it have more functionality? The Motorola watch has all the features we know that the Apple watch has, probably more. It's a neat gadget but still isn't very useful. And if the Apple watch is smaller, that's worse, not better. The main problem with the Motorola watch (or any smart watch) is that you have to deal with an annoying little screen.

Smaller is better for me. I'm not looking to strap an iPhone 6 Plus to my wrist. As watches go, even the 38mm is a bit large. This is being marketed to women. If anything, future versions will be smaller, not bigger.
 
Not at $350, $500, or more they won't. Keep in mind that the majority of iPhone owners didn't pay full price for their phone, so anything over $199 is going to induce sticker shock.

This is especially true when there are alternatives for much cheaper -- Fitbit, Pebble, and Microsoft to name three, which are all cross-platform, and are much, much less expensive.
Yep. Probably only about 10% of consumers will think it's worth it. So you and the article are in total agreement.
 
Tim Cook jokes that he "knows a lot about fashion" but the issue with the Apple Watch as a fashion device (especially if it's geared towards women) is that it looks exactly like the kind of watch a bunch of nerdy Googlers would think was "cool" in their Mountainview Googleplex. The squarish frame, the swappable color bands, all give this away as a watch designed by male engineers that will appeal to ... male engineers.

Prediction: this watch will be a great hit in the Silicon Valley, from 1 Infinite Loop to 1600 Mountainview. But it will begin and end there.

I think it's more the size than the squarish design. Lots of women's watches have square designs. The states of SoC and battery technology don't allow for anything much thinner, but as they improve, I think we'll see more radical design changes in the Apple Watch.

Some of the band designs, particularly the Modern, are quite nice looking.
 
I just don't see it happening. Who would want an additional device to charge daily when they got their phone for that?
What world do you live in where people buy a phone because they want something to charge every day?

If the phone gives me functionality I want, as the iPhone does, then I weigh that functionality against the costs, including the inconvenience of daily charging. I will use the same criteria in deciding whether to get the Apple Watch. Or the Tesla Model X, for that matter.
 
I don't understand why it isn't more comfortable and easy to glance at my wrist to see the time versus taking my phone out of my pocket. So I still get a lot of use out of my watch. It also looks nice. I suspect the Apple Watch will have some good uses. It may not be worth my giving up my watch to wear it. But if you aren't currently wearing a watch, then this will by a nice addition for you. You have an unoccupied wrist and so have space for this device.

For the few seconds it takes to look at your watch it is convenient. But having another electronic device to buy, carry, and manage (recharges, updates etc) that requires you also carry an iPhone makes it inconvenient. Also I don't check the time often enough to warrant buying a device primarily for that purpose.

Now if the Apple Watch was an autonomous iPhone Micro I would!
 
I completely stopped wearing a watch when cellphones made them irrelevant. I don't see anything that would make me jump up and say 'I gotta have this!'
I wouldn't expect anyone to come off the sidelines before they see something that makes a new product worthwhile to them. There were those who didn't see the point of smart phones, when they could text and make phone calls with their ordinary dumb phone. Some people didn't see the point in telephones at all, when everyone they might want to call was only a short walk away. I had a relative who grew up in the country, and wouldn't have a toilet in the house. The outhouse was good enough. There was a bathtub and running water in the kitchen, but for your personal waste elimination you had to walk into the woods.

So you'd be in good company with late adopters from time immemorial.

I quit wearing a wristwatch about the same time you did. All it did was tell time, and my dumb phone did that, and much more. The smart phone put the internet in my hands.

Those who said "It's just a phone" really weren't arguing in the same world that I was living in. Smart phones like the iPhone aren't "just phones", and the Apple Watch won't be "just a watch." I am seriously thinking about getting the Apple watch, because the reason I stopped wearing a watch (it just told time) doesn't apply to smart watches.
 
You couldn't do that on the iPhone 1, and yet it was still a great device. Apple has said that it's coming, but not quite yet.


This is, PRE-LAUNCH. They want to target Iphone app developers to extend their apps to the phone first since well, no one has currently access to a watch to test anything.

My feeling it that things will be expanded once the watch is released.
 
I quit wearing a wristwatch about the same time you did. All it did was tell time, and my dumb phone did that, and much more. The smart phone put the internet in my hands.

Those who said "It's just a phone" really weren't arguing in the same world that I was living in. Smart phones like the iPhone aren't "just phones", and the Apple Watch won't be "just a watch." I am seriously thinking about getting the Apple watch, because the reason I stopped wearing a watch (it just told time) doesn't apply to smart watches.

I've been on the cutting edge of computer tech for decades, using them at their limits for music and video production. So I'm Ok with being an early adopter when there is a demonstrable benefit to my life. I'm not seeing how a watch that requires my iPhone fills a need in a way the iPhone doesn't already fill. Maybe I should watch the videos again. :)


I agree about smartphones. They fundamentally changed how I used a mobile phone-device. I'm not seeing the Apple Watch that way yet.
 
I was also on the anti-smartwatch bandwagon.. Then I got a Pebble (as a gift), I found it surprisingly useful to not pull out my phone each time I got a notification.

If I'm in a meeting, and get a text message or phone call, I can just glance at my wrist and decide if it's worth responding. Pulling out my phone during a conversation or meeting can look bad, like I'm not engaged in the conversation.

All that said, I've stopped wearing the Pebble. Why? Because I didn't have enough control over which notifications would show on the watch. I don't want my wrist to buzz each time it's my turn on Words with Friends, or I get an email. I like the idea, it just isn't there quite yet.

I'm definitely interested in this area where I wasn't before, but it has to be done right. Apple has traditionally been one of those companies that has gotten the formula right, and I'll be one of the 10% placing my order on Day 1.
 
I've yet to see anyone explain the purpose of this ugly thing.

Just because you *can* make something doesn't mean you *should*.

What's next? The Apple Glove, for those times when you don't feel like looking at your phone or your watch?
Use your imagination. Here's the problem with most people: they aren't imaginative, they aren't creative, they aren't inventive. Highly intelligent people 'think differently' as the Apple motto goes. People of great intelligence have brought the world to what it is now. If Galileo didn't think differently, where would we be today? Newton, Edison, Tesla, Einstein... the list goes on. If Galileo didn't think differently from what everyone believed, the world would have continued to believe the Earth were the center of the galaxy, until someone did think differently. Just because you aren't aware of the plans, intentions, or future vision, or possibilities, doesn't mean there isn't one, and it doesn't mean the future of this product won't be groundbreaking.


I'll give you some possibilities and reasons for a wearable, specifically this watch, now and into the future, and this is just my random thoughts, I'm not being paid by Apple to sit around all day and come up with ideas, which im guessing Apple has numerous visionaries doing.

Some are obvious, some have been done and not mastered, some are obviously into the future. Ignoring the obvious things like notifications, timers, alarms, etc., just imagine the future biometric sensor possibilities. I know it's pretty much impossible to imagine some things which you wouldnt believe would ever be possible, but people are working on them. For example, there are people working on a slew of biometric sensors that can give information non-invasively from the wrist. Glucometers (I know most people don't understand how this can benefit anyone but diabetics, but in fact it can benefit every human on the planet, as blood glucose is incredibly important and can tell a huge amount about a person's health, possible future complications like type II diabetes, insulin resistance, etc. and learning how the foods you're consuming are negatively affecting your blood glucose levels, could get people to eat more healthy, as opposed to carb-laden, highly refined, processed garbage), blood pressure, oxygen saturation, electrolyte levels, and even calorie consumption (yes in the future it could be possible for your watch to tell you how many calories you've consumed) broken down into the specific macronutrients, all non-invasively. I've even heard further down the road, maybe 20-30 years it may be possible to detect cancer cells non-invasively from a watch's sensors, looking into your blood (detection of one of the first thousands or tens of thousands of cancerous cells as opposed to the first tens of millions, and early detection like this could decrease mortality substantially). Those are just some of the possibilities with biometric sensors. The key thing to remember here is that non of that is possible without it being wore as in a watch, because of the inherent nature of it always being worn on the body, to monitor constantly.


Another key thing I like to think of as on Apple's future roadmap as a feature is an aura of security. The inherent nature of the device always being attached to your body brings about the unique opportunity to make it be your virtual key to everything you own, around you. Being that it has sensors you will be able to authenticate it each time you put it on your wrist, and through its sensors it will know that it is remaining on your wrist, and thus, remaining authenticated. So all of your devices lock and unlock based on your proximity to them; you walk up to your Mac and it doesn't need any password or authentication because it did that as you entered the proximity of it, and as you walk away it is locked as if it broke out of your aura of security and thus is no longer authenticated. Another example... you walk up to your house the door will unlock as you approach it, and when you leave your house the door could lock after you exit the proximity of a few feet. Same goes with your car, and it could act as a key fob by giving you a certain haptic feedback as you walk away so you know it's locked, as well as an audio cue. With numerous other applications for automated things in your house. For example if you are sleeping with the watch on while its monitoring your sleep, and you get up to use the bathroom, it could turn the lights on dimly without you doing a single thing other than getting up and walking, because the sensors know you've gotten up. In the future when there are more sensors, it could give you strong, repeated haptic feedback to wake you if the sensors determined you were starting to fall asleep while driving.

Then you bring in more complexity like gestures (and this has been done on a wrist device already), you walk up to the trunk of your car and simply do nothing but raise your wrist and the trunk unlocks and pops open (aura of security and gestures all accomplished by the sensors), and the same goes for the hood. Numerous other possibilities with gestures too.

These are just some of the myriad of things Apple plans for this product down the road, I think. What everyone needs to remember is that you know virtually nothing in regards to what Apple is working on, considering, or planning. They've been working on the watch for over 3 years, their plans are far-reaching. Sorry for the lengthy post.
 
Ahh, another apple product for conspicuous consumers. Interesting China has the highest percentage of likely to buy.

Maybe the communist party can hand them out at their next awards ceremony.
 
First rule of any company on Earth's products: never buy the first generation of any new product.

Fixed it for you.

Let someone else be the guinea pig and sort out the inevitable quality problems and issues. Buy the next model a year later.

Very noble sentiment :rolleyes:

Let's spread the word so that everyone knows this. Wait. . . but that would mean...

Apple's penchant for secrecy negates their ability to thoroughly test products in the wild in all sorts of conditions. First adopters are the beta testers.

This is absolutely ridiculous.

I'm not buying, I sure hope my wife restrains herself from buying me one ;)

Neat.
 
First rule of Apple products: never buy the first generation of any new product. Let someone else be the guinea pig and sort out the inevitable quality problems and issues. Buy the next model a year later.

Apple's penchant for secrecy negates their ability to thoroughly test products in the wild in all sorts of conditions. First adopters are the beta testers.

I'm not buying, I sure hope my wife restrains herself from buying me one ;)

Well, not really. I got the first iPhone and it was great. I got the first ever intel-based Mac and it was great. On the other hand, I got a late generation iBook and had repeated logic board problems. I see this advice regularly on MR but I just don't see it.

My advice is to order one if you want it and return it if it doesn't satisfy you.
 
It's going to be the ultimate in booty call tools, among other things. Hopefully they'll get it out by Valentine's day.

Unless you buy her the Regular or Sports model, while her sister or best friend gets a GOLD model from HER boyfriend.

Then you'll never stop hearing what a cheapskate you are! :eek:

I'm telling ya: gold-plating the stainless steel model is gonna be popular.
 
I've been on the cutting edge of computer tech for decades, using them at their limits for music and video production. So I'm Ok with being an early adopter when there is a demonstrable benefit to my life. I'm not seeing how a watch that requires my iPhone fills a need in a way the iPhone doesn't already fill. Maybe I should watch the videos again. :)


I agree about smartphones. They fundamentally changed how I used a mobile phone-device. I'm not seeing the Apple Watch that way yet.
I'm not sure those decades of being on the cutting edge really work in your favor. The people who were first in line to get a color television didn't necessarily turn into the first to own a VCR. As we get older, our needs change, and we're more likely to want something that's reliable and comfortable, rather than new and novel. When we were younger we were more likely to think we'd find a more technological way of doing something useful in our lives.

The older folks who didn't understand our passion for the leading edge when we were younger weren't always old fuddy-duddies. They jumped in with both feet when they were younger, and eventually got set in their ways (using technology that was once brand new). There's no reason to think it won't also happen to us!

If Apple Watch succeeds, it will be mostly on the support of the youngsters who find ways to make it useful. Then they'll get set in their ways as they get older, and they won't understand the generations that follow them any more than we understand them: "What's this Hypernet? In my day we had the Internet, and it was good enough! And we actually drove our cars, and baked our own cakes from boxed cake mix."
 
I bought a LG G watch for $79 with a $50 Google store credit yesterday and so far the watch has been great. There are better Android Wear watches on the market but none would have been such a bargain.

So my question is how can Apple look good releasing a watch at $350 minimum to the average Joe? I believe price is going to play a huge roll in the success/failure of this watch.

It's kinda like how Apple's laptops start at $900.

For an 11" model.

Everyone else sells laptops for FAR cheaper than that.

Yet Apple goes on.
 
Yep. Probably only about 10% of consumers will think it's worth it. So you and the article are in total agreement.

I think the number is closer to 27%. 10% is the "very likely will". Some of those 10% won't for various reasons, and some of the 17% that are somewhat likely will, just because they can.

It isn't black/white. The nuances are where the advertisers will push it so you "have to have on to be a cool kid".

Heck, even some of the non-committed will as well, and a much less number of the not likelies will as well.
 
Use your imagination. Here's the problem with most people: they aren't imaginative, they aren't creative, they aren't inventive. Highly intelligent people 'think differently' as the Apple motto goes. People of great intelligence have brought the world to what it is now. If Galileo didn't think differently, where would we be today? Newton, Edison, Tesla, Einstein... the list goes on. If Galileo didn't think differently from what everyone believed, the world would have continued to believe the Earth were the center of the galaxy, until someone did think differently. Just because you aren't aware of the plans, intentions, or future vision, or possibilities, doesn't mean there isn't one, and it doesn't mean the future of this product won't be groundbreaking.


I'll give you some possibilities and reasons for a wearable, specifically this watch, now and into the future, and this is just my random thoughts, I'm not being paid by Apple to sit around all day and come up with ideas, which im guessing Apple has numerous visionaries doing.

Some are obvious, some have been done and not mastered, some are obviously into the future. Ignoring the obvious things like notifications, timers, alarms, etc., just imagine the future biometric sensor possibilities. I know it's pretty much impossible to imagine some things which you wouldnt believe would ever be possible, but people are working on them. For example, there are people working on a slew of biometric sensors that can give information non-invasively from the wrist. Glucometers (I know most people don't understand how this can benefit anyone but diabetics, but in fact it can benefit every human on the planet, as blood glucose is incredibly important and can tell a huge amount about a person's health, possible future complications like type II diabetes, insulin resistance, etc. and learning how the foods you're consuming are negatively affecting your blood glucose levels, could get people to eat more healthy, as opposed to carb-laden, highly refined, processed garbage), blood pressure, oxygen saturation, electrolyte levels, and even calorie consumption (yes in the future it could be possible for your watch to tell you how many calories you've consumed) broken down into the specific macronutrients, all non-invasively. I've even heard further down the road, maybe 20-30 years it may be possible to detect cancer cells non-invasively from a watch's sensors, looking into your blood (detection of one of the first thousands or tens of thousands of cancerous cells as opposed to the first tens of millions, and early detection like this could decrease mortality substantially). Those are just some of the possibilities with biometric sensors. The key thing to remember here is that non of that is possible without it being wore as in a watch, because of the inherent nature of it always being worn on the body, to monitor constantly.


Another key thing I like to think of as on Apple's future roadmap as a feature is an aura of security. The inherent nature of the device always being attached to your body brings about the unique opportunity to make it be your virtual key to everything you own, around you. Being that it has sensors you will be able to authenticate it each time you put it on your wrist, and through its sensors it will know that it is remaining on your wrist, and thus, remaining authenticated. So all of your devices lock and unlock based on your proximity to them; you walk up to your Mac and it doesn't need any password or authentication because it did that as you entered the proximity of it, and as you walk away it is locked as if it broke out of your aura of security and thus is no longer authenticated. Another example... you walk up to your house the door will unlock as you approach it, and when you leave your house the door could lock after you exit the proximity of a few feet. Same goes with your car, and it could act as a key fob by giving you a certain haptic feedback as you walk away so you know it's locked, as well as an audio cue. With numerous other applications for automated things in your house. For example if you are sleeping with the watch on while its monitoring your sleep, and you get up to use the bathroom, it could turn the lights on dimly without you doing a single thing other than getting up and walking, because the sensors know you've gotten up. In the future when there are more sensors, it could give you strong, repeated haptic feedback to wake you if the sensors determined you were starting to fall asleep while driving.

Then you bring in more complexity like gestures (and this has been done on a wrist device already), you walk up to the trunk of your car and simply do nothing but raise your wrist and the trunk unlocks and pops open (aura of security and gestures all accomplished by the sensors), and the same goes for the hood. Numerous other possibilities with gestures too.

These are just some of the myriad of things Apple plans for this product down the road, I think. What everyone needs to remember is that you know virtually nothing in regards to what Apple is working on, considering, or planning. They've been working on the watch for over 3 years, their plans are far-reaching. Sorry for the lengthy post.

Most of the things you mentioned medicaly are not happening without a blood sample. Glucose Nope, lytes nope, O2 saturation maybe.

Lock and unlock my car? why my fob does that for me
If the watch does half of what people are hoping it would cost far more
 
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