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This is the one thing you won't be able to determine if it's really true or if that person was authenticated in settings prior to the video. It could be true or it could be people trying to get hits on their tube account to make money. It's all up in the air, makes me appreciate my Touch ID even more.
Touch ID was allegedly spoofed too right after the 5S came out.
 
In the same way that Samsung and apologists could spin the Note 7 fiasco as 'Emergency hand warming feature'

The note 7 was a disaster for Samsung. It's as bad as the Seahawks not running the ball in the SB.

BUT Samsung did recall and did what was appropriate to compensate all note 7 buyers. BUT I will tell you 100% without a question I would never ever recommend a Samsung product to any friends, family members who cannot handle technical issues. The reason is that Samsung support for their products whether it be appliances or smart watches or phones is just downright atrocious. I mean it's so bad don't even bother getting the proper service for your device when it has issues. This is a 100% FACT. This is why apple is #1 and I would never hesitate to recommend to anyone.

But at the same time I would never buy an apple iPhone at its current generation. iOS 7 was my last straw with apple and ever since their phone designs are just terrible. I would not bother with this iPhone X either because it's not worth the price tag. Maybe the 3rd iteration, I'd consider it.

The only way I'd come back to iOS smartphones is if apple has something like Samsung DEX. Dock your phone and it becomes your computer like how the note 8 does it so well. It's close to perfection but not just quite there yet. If apple did something like DEX allowing me to use apps with monitor/keyboard/mouse I'd buy it instantly. Right now iOS smartphones are just a waste of money because I'd rather use my laptop/desktop/even my iPad Pro instead .

All that A11 prowess and zero support for real desktop computing use. A shame really. I just hope IVEs is right about future products being software oriented. Right now it's like a Ferrari limited to 30mph driving a loop in a cul de sac.
 
Yes I can. Apple was upfront about twins, especially identical ones and children under the age of 13. Let’s see a proper controlled test from start to finish with every step documented. I know how addictive Apple FUD is. I remember when Touch ID was allegedly spoofed right after it came out. Care to name how many people have had their identity stolen because of Touch ID? My guess is it will be the same number with Face ID.
Just because Apple is upfront doesn't mean the technology overall is right. FaceID is flawed in many circumstances.
Truth is that this mother and son appear completely credible. Their demo is not fake. Why discredit them?
The fact that the device, which can only register one face, should not allow two people to unlock it.
Never heard of any Touch ID spoof. There certainly was not any documented cases like the number that have be posted online in the past weeks.
 
They should have just bit the bullet and put the sensor on the back if they couldn't get it under the glass IMO.
That might work as well, but I guess Apple may be reluctant to do that because of space constraints and the feeling they probably would have that they're wasting space they could use for something "more important/worthwhile".
 
So we’re just supposed to believe a YouTube video of a random woman and her son? And something we didn’t witness and don’t have video of from start to finish? No thanks.
No. We're supposed to believe things that confirm what we already believe. For those inclined to believe that FaceID will fail, then this video is believable. If one is inclined that FaceID works, then this video is not believable.

If one is inclined to believe that FaceID works, then even a video showing an unboxing of an iPhone, setup, and failure will be insufficient proof.
 
What facts? I do not recall family members unlocking Touch ID left and right after it was introduced. Do you have any evidence of that?

Do you have any evidence of someone using Face ID correctly and then having someone else unlock?

I haven’t. There isn’t one video of this definitely happening.
 
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Link to the videos showing Touch ID spoofs.

I have 3 family members in my household who just never can get touchID to work properly. For the first reset it recognizes their prints but then like a day or two later it just fails every single time. It's almost as if the 3 people have bad fingers. None of their fingers work on touchID properly after setup a few days later.
 
Just because Apple is upfront doesn't mean the technology overall is right. FaceID is flawed in many circumstances.
Truth is that this mother and son appear completely credible. Their demo is not fake. Why discredit them?
The fact that the device, which can only register one face, should not allow two people to unlock it.
Never heard of any Touch ID spoof. There certainly was not any documented cases like the number that have be posted online in the past weeks.
They appear credible because of your pre-existing bias against Face ID. And yes do a google search. There certainly were Touch ID spoofs. Heck they were posted here. Like this one:

https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...f-original-fingerprint.1642817/#post-17977807
 
I find hard to believe lol :D - It could be one of those issue:

1: iOS bugs
2: Jailbreak
3: FaceID hardware issue
4: FaceID accurate is reduce
5: FaceID can be fool lighting/reflection condition ?
 
people go nuts over apple products even when they don,t work properly

this is insane, i'm so happy I left the apple boat after 30 yrs of non-stop mac use

Waiting for you to say something that actually contributes to this topic.

But maybe you’re too busy fixing your Android and Windows devices?

Face ID improves over time. Fact. These people doing non-scientific tests are just creating noise.
 
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makes absolute sense. Typing in my 16 digit alphanumeric symbolized password while trying to checkout with apple pay at a register. Make as much as sense as paying $1k+ for a phone.
Jamie Lannister surviving Dragon fire makes sense as much sense as getting on macrumors and sayin how much it makes sense to pay 1k for a phone.
 
FaceID uses infrared. Why does visible lighting actually matter in that case?

why the hell does light matter indoors? It uses infrared. Probably would work even better in NO LIGHT.

Given that Face ID uses the phone's own IR dot generator (w/ 30000 dots), why should ambient lighting matter in the least?

Good points. I was picking up on the point that the initial training was done in poor light, and retraining in good light stopped the kid from unlocking. I’m not an engineer that’s familiar with such a complex system, I don’t know if there’s anything else going on besides the IR camera.
 
For me TouchID is more than theft prevention. It keeps my kids out of my phone without me having to use a passcode every time. If this issue happens often it’s a real problem.
Maybe watch adult movies on another device? That way your kids can’t see you preferences.
 
I have an iPhone 6S, and I'm quite happy with Touch ID for the moment. I'm a little wary of Face ID for multiple reasons, none of which I need to explain here. That said, crying wolf over every little hiccup with the system (some of which are evidently due to user error) is not the greatest use of anyone's energy.

As they've said on television, "If nothing else works, a total pig-headed unwillingness to look facts in the face will see us through." ;)
 
Who cares? A person who wants their phone to be secure isn't going to seek out someone who looks like them, hand the phone over after the first scan, then enter the passcode so that the other person has access to Face ID scans.

A real test would involve a one person scan, no access for anyone else for days, then a test (that doesn't involve entering the passcode).
 
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If you fear for your security, FaceID AND TouchID are poor choices. Go with a very long, secure password. Quit crying.
Apple spends millions doing research and development for these features. Then they spend another million on marketing and charge everyone a premium for it. Here you are saying they are "poor choices" and not to use them. And your ok with it, haha! Wow, blows my mind!
 
Just because Apple is upfront doesn't mean the technology overall is right. FaceID is flawed in many circumstances.
Truth is that this mother and son appear completely credible. Their demo is not fake. Why discredit them?
The fact that the device, which can only register one face, should not allow two people to unlock it.
Never heard of any Touch ID spoof. There certainly was not any documented cases like the number that have be posted online in the past weeks.
The appear credible and you proclaim the demo is not fake? How do you know?

People like attention. Look how determined she is to prove it doesn't work and look at the moron son dab at the end.

Again, they don't show the setup process so it's immediately not credible based on having zero context for the video.

In the "story," it actually says, "It worked again on his sixth try" meaning they entered a passcode by definition on that attempt bc it only allows 5 tries without passcode.
 
FaceID hasn't been spoofed by any of my family members. So either I'm an anomaly by the hearsay of the naysayers, or I'm part of a majority crowd of solid devices. Pick your poison and try not to make an attention-seeking Youtube video about it.
 
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