That's irrelevant to the fact that comparing the two, the big one has 4GB, and the small one has 2GB. @Serban stated a fact, not a value judgement.
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12.9 Now outdated?
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No, he stated that 4GB "helps" run two apps side by side. I can run two apps side by side with 2GB. So the 4GB is irrelevant to that particular point.
Maybe because they have a 256 version and the smaller form factor is more usable/portable with more features at a lower price? Just spit balling here..!
nothing about what is new about the 9.7 would make me feel bad if i owned a 12.9. the fact that it is getting so aggressively priced (though not in canada, sigh), has 4gb (whether you think its a big deal or not right now, it WILL help in the future) still makes it a very compelling purchase.
the only reason i'm still considering the 9.7 is simply because it is the size i'd prefer. my iPad 3 is the same weight as the 12.9, and its just a little too heavy for my liking. if i was in fact looking for a larger screen, i'd feel like i was making far fewer compromises with a 12.9 than i'm having to with the 9.7.
the only unfortunate thing would be if you bought a 128gb and would have gotten the 256 if it was available. i feel like they should have introduced that capacity when they introduced the 12.9.
the only reason i'm still considering the 9.7 is simply because it is the size i'd prefer. my iPad 3 is the same weight as the 12.9, and its just a little too heavy for my liking. if i was in fact looking for a larger screen, i'd feel like i was making far fewer compromises with a 12.9 than i'm having to with the 9.7.
the only unfortunate thing would be if you bought a 128gb and would have gotten the 256 if it was available. i feel like they should have introduced that capacity when they introduced the 12.9.
I feel a bit annoyed about not having the two tone screen, but i do value 4GB RAM a lot more. That makes it a lot more future proof compare to the smaller one. Multitasking and general work on such a big screen is super smooth. A good upgrade from my old air.
one other note about true tone
as a semi compromise, you could manually modify the colour temperature through night mode. would be nice if iOS 10 exposes proper calibration settings, so its not just eyeballing. i mean, thats how colour critical work has been accomplished on traditional monitors for AGES!
as a semi compromise, you could manually modify the colour temperature through night mode. would be nice if iOS 10 exposes proper calibration settings, so its not just eyeballing. i mean, thats how colour critical work has been accomplished on traditional monitors for AGES!
Let's see. 9.7 IPP has 2 GB RAM rather than 4GB, a CPU that's underclocked--together resulting in speeds LOWER than the 12.9 despite pushing a lot fewer pixels. And the 9.7 IPP has a USB 2 Lightning port whereas the 12.9 has a USB 3 Lightning port. And somehow that makes the 12.9 obsolete. I think not.
After waiting months for the 9.7 to be announced, I was disappointed by the fact that Apple chose to cripple it and took another look at the 12.9. I was able to get a 128 GB WIFI 12.9 inch IPP for $799 from Best Buy on a price match for that same price from Staples. Larger screen, better performance for $50 more than the comparable 9.7 (128 GB WIFI). To me that's a no brainer in favor of the 12.9 IPP.
Two of my friends made the same choice. As always YMMV.
After waiting months for the 9.7 to be announced, I was disappointed by the fact that Apple chose to cripple it and took another look at the 12.9. I was able to get a 128 GB WIFI 12.9 inch IPP for $799 from Best Buy on a price match for that same price from Staples. Larger screen, better performance for $50 more than the comparable 9.7 (128 GB WIFI). To me that's a no brainer in favor of the 12.9 IPP.
Two of my friends made the same choice. As always YMMV.
So we are saying iOS 9 is bloated, laggy and slow
Maybe fix the software and it's then not really a problem.
I can run W10 and OS X on a single box at the same time with 2GB with no lag screen what i put two programs next to each other
And it really makes me laugh all the people claiming the 9.7 will be slower and not as good - yeah, is that wishful thinking or just a hope as no-one has really any personal experiences to base those comments on yet..
it all depends on what you are going to be using it for. I ended up getting a used IPP 12.9 and i didnt buy it until after the announcement came in- i dont care about the camera because if i've taken 2 pictures with an iPad before-that alone is too much. I always have my phone with me so whenever i am going to take a picture i use my phone.
Im going to be using the 12.9 for school- that way i dont have to carry a laptop around. fits my needs perfectly
Im going to be using the 12.9 for school- that way i dont have to carry a laptop around. fits my needs perfectly
So we are saying iOS 9 is bloated, laggy and slow
Maybe fix the software and it's then not really a problem.
I can run W10 and OS X on a single box at the same time with 2GB with no lag screen what i put two programs next to each other
And it really makes me laugh all the people claiming the 9.7 will be slower and not as good - yeah, is that wishful thinking or just a hope as no-one has really any personal experiences to base those comments on yet..
different people have different experiences. i can tell you for absolute sure that for my usage, i've experienced ram starved slowdowns on OS X and iOS in the past. that it "makes you laugh" that people be wary based on their own previous bad experiences? well, good for you.
256GB is a nice option for people who want it, but I'd definitely argue that the 12.9" is more usable because of the larger screen - with it, I can run 2 apps side by side and each one is virtually the same size as a single app in portrait mode on the 9.7".
I've never been someone who carries their iPad around with them all the time, but I do find I can now use it for meeting notes, etc (something I found the 9.7" too small for) so I can now travel to meetings with just my iPad rather than an iPad for the train journey and a laptop for the meeting so it's actually more portable for me
This is what I don't understand about this whole debate: If you prefer the larger screen (which I do), it makes no difference at all if the 9.7 has stuff that the 12.9 doesn't: The fact it doesn't have a 12.9" screen means it isn't as good for me as the one I chose.
I will agree, thought, that if someone bought the 12.9" as a compromise to get the pencil and doesn't really like the screen size, they may have a completely different view to mine
I wouldn't say so. They are essentially the same device, just a difference in size. It's portability versus large screen.
Just curious - what combination of apps is causing your iPad to lag when run side by side? Much as I love the larger screen of the iPad Pro, I am more or less set on the 9.7" version because I value the portability just as much, if not more.
When i use autocad +youtube for example, when zooming on a larger project is not smooth 60fps like 12.9" ipad pro
And i think even in procreate with safari(over 4 tabs opened) it is a bit laggy
When i say laggy i mean is not at 60 fps
They have to have a selling point for the 9.7 or everyone asks Why buy the 9.7 over the obviously better 12.9.
It's all about balance people, balance.
It's all about balance people, balance.
I've already started using my iPad Pro 12.9" as a cutting board. What a piece of crap now.
No the laugh is people have made conclusions without even using the new unreleased device...
But needing 4GB on a mobile OS means something is really really wrong with the OS in the first place and the bloat needs fixing rather than keep adding more and more RAM.
The baby pro is hardly the top dog, but Apple did manage to completely screw up the "pro" moniker for iOS devices.
12.9" advantages:
- Screen size
- USB3 speed lightning port
- 4GB Ram
9.7" advantages:
- Camera
- True Tone display tech
- Always on Siri
The camera is moot IMO as using a 13" tablet as a camera is ridiculous in the first place. The one in there is sufficient. The display and Siri are more glaring omissions.
The problem is that now the "pro" line is going to be crippled software-wise, because we have a 2GB RAM "pro" device. So there goes any hope of getting logic or final cut or any desktop class Adobe software on the iPad. Also with USB2 speeds on the 9.7" the hope of having access to external drives on the iPad Pro has now dropped to about zero as well.
Apparently "Pro" now just means it has a keyboard and can use a stylus.
I'm not fussed about the 9.7 going 'Pro' as it's all about note-taking and reading documents so my prime need is screen size.
I've tried numerous ways of getting split screen to be usable on my Air 2 but it's just too small to have two apps side-by-side for any real length of time.
As someone who deals with lots of A4-sized documents and large books, the big screen is killer. The typing experience is much better as well.
I personally found the amount of zooming and scrolling I needed to do on the 9.7 a chore. However, if 9.7 works for you, then the 'Pro' upgrade could be good. That said, the thought of using the Pencil and keyboard on the 9.7 feels like too many compromises to me.
I've tried numerous ways of getting split screen to be usable on my Air 2 but it's just too small to have two apps side-by-side for any real length of time.
As someone who deals with lots of A4-sized documents and large books, the big screen is killer. The typing experience is much better as well.
I personally found the amount of zooming and scrolling I needed to do on the 9.7 a chore. However, if 9.7 works for you, then the 'Pro' upgrade could be good. That said, the thought of using the Pencil and keyboard on the 9.7 feels like too many compromises to me.
its more an expression of concern rather than a conclusion, with previous experiences to back it up.
for what its worth, knowing how smooth and functional even the 512mb iPhone 4S was back in its day makes me agree with you on the OS front. my 6 has double the ram and probably 6x the cpu power, but still runs into its fair share of stutters. i do think there has been an increasing shift towards just relying on the raw power of the latest hardware to compensate for less optimized software. its with that knowledge that one tends to have to consider hardware decisions more carefully.
things like the 4S, 5S, 6S, air2 etc were devices that arguably launched with more power than most software was taking advantage of in the moment, but they also tended to hold up better over time. the other releases tend to appear to run fine in the short term, but start struggling after fewer updates.
the frustration comes from trying to weigh out whether it is worth waiting for that "overpowered" release.
This is probably not quite true. Yes 9.7" and 12.9" both were named "Pro", but it's obvious each one of them targeting actually different kind of users ; 1. ones who use it to read emails/Ebooks/web/articles but not further way much, and 2. ones who use it to do more advanced purpose ; whichever it's music, art, photography, designs, or taking lot of notes. For people who fall in category 2, they don't need better camera on 12.9" Pro, and that size isn't the best to go as mobile, but replace most of their work on laptop and still better than bringing heavy laptop everywhere. Laptop is good but short battery compare to iPad too, you gotta worry about plugging in when you use it.
On the other hand, 9.7", people think it's more fits as to go device(for me, iPad mini is the really best as to go device though), and some people actually take videos/photos with it(sounds bit ridiculous to me still...), but they don't use it like drawing or photo/music editing on their 9.7". So 9.7" doesn't need faster processor, never need 4GB Ram, split screen is a joke on 9.7" anyway, since each screen size will be much less than even mini, no one comfortably use it.
They were named same, but not same device, have different targets.
Yes, they have different use cases for different users, but I am stating for the most part (specs wise), they are the same and will perform the same.
