12-Inch MacBook Now Available in Apple Retail Stores via Personal Pickup

[aront]

You have no point to make you are just putting words together and hoping they make sense. As for what I wrote, my last sentence was actually that they "But it has one failing and that's that they could have put another USB-C on the opposite side."



What the Feck are you talking about. A chromebook can't run anything actually useful. This can and you keep banging on about it being underpowered and overpriced? for who? You? I've already said it handles HD and 3D. That's not bad in my book.



You are arbitrarily tarring everyone with the same brush. Of course someone may have a NEED of this over something else. Please name this mythical Laptop you speak off that is this light, has a screen of this res... OH AND RUNS OSX. Lets here it and I'll go out and get it right now.

Again... "Effectively" - What do you do that makes this such a issue? I've told you i do very high end stuff and I have zero problems swapping files via WiFi. The only issue I have is it could have had 2 USB-Cs but yet to actually hit that wall. Been fine with the one so far.

As for price. That's entirely up to you. I think it's cheap. Partly as it's a tax write off anyway. but mainly as after 3 years I can actually sell it for a proper amount of money. As they are very well built and unlike EVERY PC laptop I've had, held it's value and Pretty much remained as new.

You just did it again. You again did exactly what I describe. Did you even read this earlier post? Take special notice of your last paragraph and my last paragraph. One would think you would be trained to be less obvious.

"Notice the PR apologists working over time to try and silence any logical, informative advice against buying this joke of a TC money grab laptop?

Basically, they're posting: "Don't say anything negative about it. If people are dumb enough to buy it, let them buy it. You're interfering with our fleecing of naive buyers."

Notice, per PR guidelines, the last sentence or statement in an apologist post is always some random praise or compliment of Apple? Seriously, it's so obvious."

 

[Flunkyturtle]

I genuinely don't understand why everyone hates on this.

Yes it's expensive, but isn't everything apple?

I had a 2012 air which i loved, 128gb and i wanted a bit more storage and a better screen.

I bought the 256gb macbook ( went to get the 512gb but they didn't have it, in reality i didn't really need it)

It's light, it last about 7-8 hours of light work, the screen is beautiful, i've not seen any lag, any delays.

I do light photo editing, have huge itunes librarys and iphoto librarys

I also use Adobe bridge and lightroom.

I bought the adapter to plug my external harddrive in to back it up but apart from that it's cordless for.

The ONLY thing that could make it any better would have been more storage and better battery life.

It was absolutely perfect to what i wanted and frankly it must have been for others as well as it's been sold out for months.

It's not right for everyone but there's not need to jump down everyones throat...

 

[Flunkyturtle]

BTW... as far as "power" goes I had one of these sitting right next to my fully maxed out 15" MBP for a day. I did a lot of testing of launch times and overall responsiveness of the OS for browsing and writing text documents and couldn't really tell the difference between the two machines.

I think a lot of people are seeing "1.1GHz" and just thinking it's going to be crazy slow... but they're forgetting about the 2.7GHz turbo boost that is perfect for normal desktop usage patterns.

Now, I'm a "power" user who can max out both my MBP and my Mac Pro with compiling and photo editing so I know what powerful machines can be used for... but there are MANY people (like my brother-in-law law student I bought the MacBook for) that simply don't need all of that and would rather have a thinner, lighter machine with a beautiful screen....

this is me - I haven't been able to max it out yet. Which is good as it's done everything i've asked of it.

 

[JTBing]

The ironic thing here is that almost without exception, those blasting the rMB are those who haven't used one extensively, and certainly don't own one. Conversely, those who have actually bought one and use it every day are those singing it's praises. Not only that, but almost all the reviews of the computer express surprise at the rMB's capabilities (more than first thought). Sure, it might eventually fall behind workstation systems in sustained, heavy tasks, but almost every review points out that you won't notice a difference between the rMB and an Air or Pro in most tasks.

Somehow, though, some still insist that "almost everyone" hates the new computer. It's severely underpowered (for the vast majority of consumers, who all "edit 4k video while playing BO2 at 60 fps" - - brilliant, whoever said that)!

Maybe, just maybe, it would make more sense to listen to those who have actually used and reviewed the computer. Not only do they have more experience with it, but they also clearly know more about computers than you do (I'm looking at you, aront).

 

[aront]

I think we can all agree on one thing here. A First for the internet!!! And that's that ARONT really doesn't know what he is talking about at all.

Oh, but I do. Here is my post back on July 15.

"Next step in the handbook: Attack those who expose the campaign."

The PR dept. marketing campaign.

 

[johngordon]

It's an underpowered (I've read iPad level performance) laptop with a single port that requires a dongle. How is it more appealing to the masses versus a MacBook Pro?

For people who value weight and portability more than the additional power.

I don't know why people keep dismissing those factors as though they magically don't count.

If someone doesn't need the additional power, but does value weight and portability, what is the appeal of a heavier machine with power they don't need? (And will make their computer run hotter and noisier.)

And what do they need the dongles for?

 

[johngordon]

He did. It's called the 13" rMBP.

I suppose the issue of weight and portability will suddenly become a relevant factor after all. Funny, that.

 

[burgman]

It seems more short-sighted to declare what everyone else's computing needs are or should be. It also seems short-sighted to not see that for some users "thin and light" and can run MS Office are the only things that matter.

I don't see the point of the iPod Touch, but I'm not going to judge anyone who decides to buy one.

Only difference between trolls on Macrumors and most other sites is better syntax and grammar. Same silly crap expressed better is still well silly crap. Some of the most flaming are from people who don't own one or spent a few minutes In a store with a demo machine that has been pounded on. Arguing specs is meaningless to me, but seems to be important to others. User experience is the real metric whatever the product. As this machine is my travel work/personal machine I needed 512GB storage. 13 inch air configured to same specs is same price. Geek bench results translate into seconds not minutes in processing time for my usage. Add a $80 dongle for the screen, design, keyboard and trackpad works for me.

 

[johngordon]

A pathetic laptop with one port, required additional pricey dongles, a dog mobile processor, a 480p camera, etc., and an unjustified ridiculously high price is not a "set of preferences". And pointing out the fact that all this adds up to a pathetic excuse for an Apple laptop is not a sweeping generalization about "preferences". An overpriced, poorly performing, poorly thought out laptop should be criticized for the joke, Tim Cook money grab that it is.

If someone has a "preference" for a such device, buy a $200 Chromebook, but don't defend this ridiculous 12" Macbook as a buyer preference. It's the joke of the industry.

That video is hilarious - you should post it in every post.

As I bought one, it obviously did meet a set of preferences no matter how much you would like to dismiss them. And they weren't preferences that would have been met by a Chromebook.

I don't care if it only has one port, because I don't need other ports. A single, very small, USB dongle is all I need and hardly ever need to use. What part of that don't you understand?

The processor is perfectly adequate for everything I need it for - up to web development and light Illustrator / Photoshop use.

Perhaps you could set me straight and tell me some of the things I can't do, or would notice poor performance with? You know - things the average user would want to do, and not lots of video editing or gaming. Although maybe you also assume it would be someone's only machine - but why would you do that?

The camera is a bit lame, but it never gets used by us, so not an issue.

 

[johngordon]

Whenever one criticizes the sad 12" Macbook, the entire Apple apologist argument is that it's main purpose is for light-weight, portable travel, very basic cloud/wifi use; and when cheaper, reasonable alternatives are given that fit that purpose, suddenly the argument changes to something completely different and more demanding.

Actually "very basic cloud / wifi" usage are your words, no- one else's.

A more accurate phrase might be "absolutely everything other than the most CPU intensive tasks".

And stop wanging on about all the expensive dongles that most people don't need.

 

[johngordon]

The subject of this thread is an apt demonstration of planned obsolescence.

What prevented the newly released 12 inch Macbook from operating at a satisfactory speed?

Today's 12 inch Macbook is a repeat of the first Macbook Air, brought up in the post to which I quoted and responded.

For virtually everything other than the most CPU intensive tasks it does operate at a satisfactory speed.

As far as I know it couldn't have had a faster processor without other compromises.

 

[JTBing]

Here come the Apple PR/marketing department in full force to start their work day. Marketing, promotion, praising, and quickly attacking any criticism. Really should at least attempt to be less obvious.

Bahaha. I'd be frustrated by your trolling if it weren't so pitiful. If you actually believe that every person who bought this computer and praises it is paid off by Apple, then you're even more delusional than you sound.

 

[johngordon]

You

The entire thing was planned around a fanless CPU. That put hard limits on the thermal output (and thus, sustained GHz) of the CPU.

This is the first Mac laptop with ZERO moving parts. Not one single fan, HD, CDROM drive, etc. It also has less ports that can fail. Overall, this should be a rock solid machine for many years to come.

Exactly. I have always thought getting the best specced machine you can afford so that it lasts as long as possible.

But wasn't the traditional hard drive the weakest component that contributed the most to degrading performance over time?

SSD / flash storage goes a long way to eliminating that degradation over time.

I just added an SSD to my 2010 iMac last year. Our 2008 MBP staggered on til this year. I would expect the MB to last at least eight years barring mechanical failure.

 

[aront]

Bahaha. I'd be frustrated by your trolling if it weren't so pitiful. If you actually believe that every person who bought this computer and praises it is paid off by Apple, then you're even more delusional than you sound.

"Next step in the handbook: Attack those who expose the campaign."

 

[johngordon]

Here come the Apple PR/marketing department in full force to start their work day. Marketing, promotion, apologetic, praising, and quickly attacking any criticism. Really should at least attempt to be less obvious.

That's right.

If people disagree with you what possible explanation can there be, other than they must work for Apple.

Your inability to see any view other than your own is staggering.

 

[johngordon]

"Next step in the handbook: Attack those who expose the campaign."

So people work for Apple.

And now it's some conspiracy you have exposed?

Anything else?

 

[lowendlinux]

I'm glad this turned into the 374th thread on how crappy the MB is.

This computer is a poor purchase for its price, no matter how you slice it. It isn't a matter of preference when there are enough reasons to not buy something. Preference is whether you want the lighter and less powerful (but still capable) MacBook Air, or the powerful (but a bit heavier) MacBook Pro. One might even prefer a desktop if they really need the extra power, and can live without the mobility. This new laptop is even lighter, true, but its performance is sluggish and it has only one port (even the common user plugs their iPhone into their laptops from time to time...). I don't see the advantage of this over the MacBook Air, or Pro. It truly is a waste of money.

It's an "and" computer

I think the better question is, why buy this laptop over the retina MacBook Pro, when they're so close in price.

See above

Notice the PR apologists working over time to try and silence any logical, informative advice against buying this joke of a TC money grab laptop?

Basically, they're posting: "Don't say anything negative about it. If people are dumb enough to buy it, let them buy it. You're interfering with our fleecing of naive buyers."

Notice, per PR guidelines, the last sentence or statement in an apologist post is always some random praise or compliment of Apple? Seriously, it's so obvious.

See above

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I've never understood why people buy laptops to replace desktops they're more expensive and less powerful and can't be upgraded but people do. I don't understand why people buy iPads, they can't be carried in your pocket so they need to go in a bag if I'm going to carry a bag I'm going to carry a laptop therefore if people have a MBP why a iPad. I don't understand a great many things that others find great but yet they do. Because I don't understand something doesn't make them wrong or stupid.

 

[JTBing]

If Apple offered me a job, I'd gladly accept.

Unfortunately, I'm just a poor 18 year old premed student. No conspiracy here... Although I'm sure everyone already knew that.

 

[conormurray]

Nearly four months after release, the new 12-inch MacBook is starting to become available for personal pickup in Apple Stores in the United States. Previously, some stores have had sporadic stock for walk-in customers, but it now appears that stock is substantial enough for Apple to offer personal pickup.

The personal pickup option isn't universal yet however, with only select configurations at select stores being available. For example, the 256 GB Silver MacBook is not available for personal pickup in New York, NY while the 256 GB Space Gray is widely available.

While some Apple Stores and Best Buys have had sporadic stock for walk-ins, most Apple Stores around the world have only had the unit on display. In the MacRumors' forums, users have been reporting which stores around the world have had the new MacBook on display, whether they were available to purchase or not and how many units they had left in stock.

The MacBook is currently showing shipping estimates of at least 1 - 2 weeks when ordered online. Comparatively, both the MacBook Air and MacBook Pro are showing shipping estimates of at least 1 business day.

Pricing for the 12-inch MacBook starts at $1,299 for the entry-level model with 256 GB of storage while the higher-end model starts at $1,599 with 512 GB of storage and a slightly faster dual-core Intel Core M processor.

Article Link: 12-Inch MacBook Now Available in Apple Retail Stores via Personal Pickup

I gave my 2011 MBPr to my son as a Christmas present; I couldn't open it easily on a plane and just had to carry around too many accessories for portability! I had already bought a Mac Mini last summer along with a 34" wide screen Hi-Rez monitor for my office plus a Lacie NAS for cloud access and back up. What I needed was an OS X keyboard based MacBook with a great display, battery lifetime and above all lightweight. The new MacBook does everything it says on the tin and while I know it will improve in future I needed it now, as in last Christmas. But it was delayed until April and then I got it at the end of May. I had to borrow my late 2007 MBP 15" which I had given to my daughter when I went retina. The new Macbook is everything I expected and with WiFi and Bluetooth 4 I don't need ports. I get all day use normally for my business work stuff. I take it to restaurants, on planes, in the car and boy is it light. Of course it is expensive and has limitations but none that bother me as a business user. If I use a USB drive then my battery life disappears rapido; I can be careful about that. I'm a lifetime Apple user, all the way from the IIe in 1983 as a young engineer doing calcs on a spreadsheet. I recycle all my Macs though my kids and grandkids so all my Apple devices gets years and years of use. My wife has my 1st gen iPad and she finds it does what she wants - web browsing and emails. All in all I'm satisfied. Conor

 

[prowlmedia]

You just did it again. You again did exactly what I describe. Did you even read this earlier post? Take special notice of your last paragraph and my last paragraph. One would think you would be trained to be less obvious.

"Notice the PR apologists working over time to try and silence any logical, informative advice against buying this joke of a TC money grab laptop?

Basically, they're posting: "Don't say anything negative about it. If people are dumb enough to buy it, let them buy it. You're interfering with our fleecing of naive buyers."

Notice, per PR guidelines, the last sentence or statement in an apologist post is always some random praise or compliment of Apple? Seriously, it's so obvious."

And all you do is rant about why Apple product do not fit your needs. One would think you would be trained to do exactly that. Oh hold on a minute. Well that and copy and pasting your "agenda"

I have said negative things about it. It needed another USB-C connector. Just 1 then it's perfect for it's purpose.

I kinda think you need to remove your tinfoil hat, I have no Idea what you think I do. but I run a 3d Animation company that makes TV titles / VFX etc. I have and use windows, Linux and OSX. I have a lot of machines and I have a completely open view unlike you. Actually looking at all your previous posts you basically use the same repetative phrases over and over like "bean counter" which is meaningless and "apologists" and are convinced that everyone on here is a paid Apple PR person. Perhaps there are. Not as many paid schills from samsung etc tho. But you'd know all about that.

Not one of your posts is actually informed or from the basis of someone that actually knows what the products are, just random insults against Apple management, us as users.

You don't answer anyone else's questions just spew your pointless vitriol all over your keyboard. Get a life.

 

[Dayv]

I currently have the white unibody macbook from 2010, which was the newest macbook model until this new one. By today's standards my macbook is very underpowered, and probably won't last much longer. I've been wondering though, which macbook would be better? Like which would be able to play games, edit video, etc better? The obviously work fine for web browsing, but I guess my question is for me would buying this new macbook be much of an upgrade?

I moved from a 2009 unibody MBP to the new Macbook, and it was absolutely an upgrade. I've played games on it, watched videos on it, etc. The reviews from actual users show that it's nowhere near as underpowered as people say. Sure, it'll slow down for longer, processor-intensive tasks, but it spends most of its time turbo boosting well above the base processor speed.

 

[Daekwan]

Bought one for my fiancee and she absolutely loves it. Carries it absolutely everywhere, wrapped in a leather pouch.. that sits in her purse. And I mean everywhere, its with her everyday at work/home/travel/park/pool/etc. For the haters who cant understand why someone would want this. When was the last time you carried your heavy azz rMBP absolutely everywhere you went? The rMB was designed for people who wanted a full fledged computer, but prefer something about the size & weight of an iPad. There's a reason why iPad+Bluetooth keyboards is popular combination. Apple saw a market for this and went after it.

For those who cant understand that, let me state it a bit differently. A DSLR will take better pictures than any smartphone camera on the market. BUT.. the reason why camera phones grew so popular & are the overwhelmingly more popular choice for picture taking.. is because they are small & convenient enough to always have with you. Its the same idea for the rMB. You get 9/10ths of the performance and capability of a full fledged laptop.. but you have the portability & convenience of a iPad. For the majority of users.. 9/10th is more than enough capability to warrant the purchase of this tiny notebook.

 

[prowlmedia]

Oh, but I do. Here is my post back on July 15.

"Next step in the handbook: Attack those who expose the campaign."

The PR dept. marketing campaign.

You actually need help don't you. I'm sorry. Yes I am Apple apologising (or whatever you think it is) for clearly you have slipped into some mental state and too far gone to have any sort of conversation with.

I'll get back to my work and finish up this video edit on my Macbook Retina which is apparently unusable. I'm billing £9K for this job, by the way and about 70% of it has been done on this pointless device.

 

[Dayv]

I hope this is a real flop for apple, it might make them realise we are not all obsessed by thinness and some of us would like a computer with a decent amount of ports and specs and perhaps some decent speakers for a change?

The speakers in the new Macbook, much to my surprise, are excellent. I mean, they're still laptop speakers, but it sounds better than my previous, much-larger MBP.

 

[El Hikaru]

I wonder why there are so many negative opinions here.
Although, I will likely not going to buy MacBook, it seems appearing to certain consumers, such as my wife.

She does not know any port beyond power cable and USB.
She would appreciates high resolution small screen.
She cares how her girl friends look her.

People are paying $100 for 48GB of data storage when they buy 64GB iPhone.
You can buy 128GB of USB drive for around $30.

I recently bought Acer 27'' IPS GSync monitor for $800.
My friends told me I am insane, however, you know how much 15'' MacBook Pro is more than 13''.

Is $1,299 expensive?
I think it is expensive.
I however understand there are people who value the portability over computing power.