A truly updated apres-Ive 13" or 14" MB (Pro/Air) with whizbang innards (remember? Apple used to make stuff like that once) would be great, but it'd be really fantastic if it could run on pre-Catalina.
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13-Inch MacBook Pro With Scissor Keyboard Expected in First Half of 2020
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Overall, I think Apple did a great job with the 16" MBP but I'm gonna wait till Intel's Tiger Lake which is Intel's next major architecture change and is suppose to bring a host of improvements, the biggest being the utilization of Intel's Xe GPU. It's suppose to bring 1080p 60fps gaming to discrete GPUs. We should be seeing these in laptops 1H of 2021.
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If that rumor is true, then there won't be a complete redesigned MBP because 16-inch is completely redesigned base on Apple's claim which is very disappointing.
Think of it like the Porsche 911 of pro laptops => minor changes on the outside, major changes on the inside. Nothing wrong with that.
We are talking about MBP, not Porsche. Clearly, there were changes between each MBP since the original one. Despite what others saying, 16-inch MBP is more like 4th gen MBP.
Monitor: Slightly bigger and bezel-less design.
Keyboard: Technically, they went back to a scissor-type keyboard with some improvements. Nothing new.
CPU, RAM, Speaker, GPU: Apple always adds and changes GPU even for the same gen MBP. Nothing new also.
Touch bar: NOTHING NEW. Both ESC and Touch id was already separated from MacBook Air and they just added a short version of the touch bar.
Inside: If you compare with the previous MBP, there isnt any differences especially with the cooling system.
I seriously doubt that 16-inch MBP is fully changed MBP.
I use the Files.app to Cut/Copy/Paste/Move documents around and to read and write data from my 500GB SanDisk Extreme Portable SSD all day long.
The ones with USB-C... I'm thinking they meet your requirements - you can plug in external drives, and there's the Files app. I haven't paid enough attention to that corner of iOS though, so maybe it doesn't get you what you need. (I'd need a proper userland - /bin, /usr/bin, /usr/local, and such - and multiple terminal windows with bash, before I can even think of using an iPad Pro instead of a Mac.)
Ice Lake parts that are a perfect fit for the 13” MBP are available *right now*, Dell is already shipping laptops with them. That means Intel is confident they will get yields up to acceptable levels to ship these things in volume, which is needed for them to be profitable. If they were not confident and instead planned to skip 10nm completely, they would not have partnered with a relatively big partner like Dell, for decently popular device like the XPS 2-in-1, but instead pushed them to stick with the 9th gen or 10th gen parts. If 10nm Ice Lake was ‘almost dead’ Intel would at best work with some unknown low-volume manufacturer, similar to what they did with the rare 10nm cannon lake i3 that was found in some Chinese laptops.
You are confusing the rumored skip to 7nm for their desktop parts and highest-end laptop parts. There will likely not be Ice Lake for these segments. Makes a lot of sense because at these power envelopes Ice Lake has fewer benefits, and typically they are used with separate dGPU so Gen11 graphics are irrelevant. By focusing completely on the ‘premium‘ ultraportable chips and selling them at higher margin Intel can at least recuperate some of the loss they incurred from their troubled 10nm process.
For the 13” MBP the currently shipping Ice Lake chips are perfect, and eliminate the biggest drawback of their 8th and 9th gen counterparts: the weak GPU. That, and the 16 GB LPDDR3 limitations. I’m 100% sure Apple will use them if Intel can supply them in volume. If they already gave up on that, they would have updated the 13” along with the 16” already.
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Lol defensive much?
I've been using Lenovo for the past 4 years and regret not having used them earlier, it's the best quality computers and service I've ever had.
There's only one problem with Lenovo computers: They don't run Mac OS [excluding hackintosh].
If Apple allowed Mac OS to be installed on other brand computers, I would have the PERFECT machine.
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Him "leaving" was the apology.
What a relief..I might pick that new Macbook Air if it comes with GOOD keyboard.
I'm really suffering because of the AWFUL butterfly KB in my 12" Macbook.
so far,I had it serviced 3 times by Apple,last time was few months ago and they replaced the WHOLE KB and fron casing,the problem returned within a week! space key specially very hit and miss.
I give up taking it to Apple,they simply cannot do anything it was a design flaw.
so out of 3 space bar pushes at least 1 is missed and I have to edit.
seriously that's f-ed up.
I'm really suffering because of the AWFUL butterfly KB in my 12" Macbook.
so far,I had it serviced 3 times by Apple,last time was few months ago and they replaced the WHOLE KB and fron casing,the problem returned within a week! space key specially very hit and miss.
I give up taking it to Apple,they simply cannot do anything it was a design flaw.
so out of 3 space bar pushes at least 1 is missed and I have to edit.
seriously that's f-ed up.
Or maybe him "leaving" was him quitting and saying "screw you" to Tim Cook for how he's running Apple.
I think they had to release the 16" now.
From my anecdotal experience, a lot of people have been holding on to older MacBooks because of the
keyboard and thermal design.
Even the company I work for has stopped offering new MacBooks to employees, we mostly get Lenovo.
These are obviously not that good, but I have to say the onsite support for us is amazing.
I hope that there is still a reasonable upgrade for WWDC, because the 16" as it is now is not the model I like to buy. The market is moving to quickly with ARM, RISC-V etc.
Also, I still believe that the port situation needs to change ... sorry but USB-C only is not the future.
So .... 6 month to go ... I can wait. The times to throw money at Apple are over for me.
PS: Written on a MacPro 3.1 from 2008 running ElCapitan.
From my anecdotal experience, a lot of people have been holding on to older MacBooks because of the
keyboard and thermal design.
Even the company I work for has stopped offering new MacBooks to employees, we mostly get Lenovo.
These are obviously not that good, but I have to say the onsite support for us is amazing.
I hope that there is still a reasonable upgrade for WWDC, because the 16" as it is now is not the model I like to buy. The market is moving to quickly with ARM, RISC-V etc.
Also, I still believe that the port situation needs to change ... sorry but USB-C only is not the future.
So .... 6 month to go ... I can wait. The times to throw money at Apple are over for me.
PS: Written on a MacPro 3.1 from 2008 running ElCapitan.
Nope, not defensive at all, just tired of the utter lack of understanding on the part of people who cannot grasp or accept how Apple does things and then proceed to dispense advice on how Apple should do things that just aren’t going to happen in order to make them happy or else they are going to leave.
Such as Apple allowing macOS to run on non-Apple hardware.
I no longer care to evangelize Apple or macOS...if you don’t want to be here, go, there are plenty of alternatives out there. Go buy them and be happy.
For my part, I simply need to regain my self control and not waste time on people dwelling in fantasy land trying to get Apple to change for their particular set of self-entitlement. I simply don’t wield the block tool enough...
Live long and prosper!
You bought a ThinkPad X395 with soldered DRAM? Wait a minute, you’re lambasting Apple, but you bought a Lenovo with soldered DRAM? WTF?!?
Clearly they feel that the butterfly design has some merit, but still needs more work to survive in our dusty, dirty world. They operate perfectly in Apple's dust-free labs!
Redesigns have next to nothing to do with appearance.
Have you carried around a 2012 model recently?
The improvements are more about reduced weight and footprint.
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How much further can they go as far as design is concerned?
What would you have liked to be redesigned? It can’t get any thinner, nor can the footprint be made smaller.
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