13" Macbook Pro Isn't A Pro

[orangedavie]

Pro is a brand-name. Maybe a badly chosen brand-name. It makes no difference to the product. People who care have to have a look at themselves. I could have bought a sony vaio with a better display more ram better processing all for the same price, It wouldnt have had the battery power I was after though.

I think too many people are buying these laptops as penis extensions. Does it matter what other people think of your product? You really are sad bastards. In your mind's the guy in the BMW laughs at you as he passes your Toyota or VW. I pity you.

 

[Schtumple]

Wow, are people really that upset over this??

You guys complain you don't have a replacement to the 12" PB, then when you do, you complain "it's not a real pro", it's pathetic...

IIRC, even the 12" PB was more underpowered than the 14" iBook, despite the 12" PB having a higher price tag...

Seriously, you guys really are splitting hairs over one of the most mundane and boring topics I've ever seen discussed here.

And before someone chimes in with "You don't have to read the thread", I know I don't, but it's always nice to give an opinion...

 

[akutad]

You could but i think the size of the 13" really makes it look like a 'noddy' pro.

I think it makes it look like a portable pro. I saw conference where all the lighting and music guys control the equipment with the 13" pro. They had about 5 of them. I think once you have multiple computers that need to be lugged around then the 13" is great.

 

[Azrel]

I really laughed hard at the thread starter, size of the bezel looking 'amateurish'? GIVE ME A BREAK LOL! That's really nothing to do with 'Pro' at all.

The 13" form factor is great, its lighter and easier to carry. Exactly what I needed. I don't need a fast graphics card BECAUSE I DONT PLAY GAMES!

And my work is software development, and for compile times, the CPU in this little 'book is MORE than enough. It's everything I need, and I won't be replacing it for a long time.

 

[shambo]

I think it makes it look like a portable pro. I saw conference where all the lighting and music guys control the equipment with the 13" pro. They had about 5 of them. I think once you have multiple computers that need to be lugged around then the 13" is great.

Maybe instead of lugging 5 of the 13 inchers the whole setup could have been done on 1 or 2 15".

 

[Pocket lint]

Maybe instead of lugging 5 of the 13 inchers the whole setup could have been done on 1 or 2 15".

I doubt it.














But they could probably make do with 5 netbooks

 

[shambo]

I doubt it.














But they could probably make do with 5 netbooks

But that wouldn't look 'pro' now would it.

 

[looman9635]

9400M only = Not a professional machine!

Exactly my opinion!

 

[Pocket lint]

But that wouldn't look 'pro' now would it.

Ha, ha! No, but it would be cheaper and the bonus would be that noone in their right mind would think of stealing the equipment

 

[Azrel]

I earn more money than most 'pros' here, and I do it on a 13" MacBook =D

/fail for elitism.

 

[Pocket lint]

I earn more money than most 'pros' here, and I do it on a 13" MacBook =D

/fail for elitism.

Not to start a pissing match about who makes most, but money has very little to do with "pro" features.

Take an audio technician or a video editor. Most likely that bloke needs quite a lot more "pro" features in a computer than the head of the company going to board meetings.

As you said: /fail for elitism.

 

[Beric]

IMO, none of the Macbook Pros are "Pro" machines. They're all very much consumer machines, targeted at consumers.

 

[shambo]

IMO, none of the Macbook Pros are "Pro" machines. They're all very much consumer machines, targeted at consumers.

So what's a pro machine then if the 15" aint.

 

[zachplaysguitar]

So what's a pro machine then if the 15" aint.

I think this whole pro business is a joke. It's a name slapped on a computer to distinguish it from other computers made by the same company. Having this name does NOT automatically make it acceptable for professional use, nor does it really have any effect on its usability in a professional setting. The fact is, most professionals couldn't care less what computer they use as long as it can output professional results/products. If it does the job then it does the job.

Going by this, I think the only Apple computer that would satisfy professional in most fields would be the Mac Pro.

The MacBook Pros are used by many many consumers. People buy the pros cause it signifies that it is better than other APPLE computers without the name, which the 13" MBP is. This is why Apple put the pro name on it. It IS better than other products without the pro moniker so therefore it deserves its name.

I highly doubt Apple ever wanted to define something about professional computer usage when they thought of the name.

 

[Davidkoh]

So what's a pro machine then if the 15" aint.

So the only "pro users" in your mind is people working with CAD and such programs? I think Apple more focuses on musical producers and photoshop users, none of which get a BIG edge from using the 15". Sure the CPU is a tad faster, but not not significantly faster.

 

[shambo]

So the only "pro users" in your mind is people working with CAD and such programs? I think Apple more focuses on musical producers and photoshop users, none of which get a BIG edge from using the 15". Sure the CPU is a tad faster, but not not significantly faster.

You try using Photoshop professionally on a tiny 13" screen then get back to me.

 

[chrono1081]

Really? The 13" screen size and bezel is the reason it's not a Pro? When I saw your post I thought it would be "The 13" doesn't have the discrete GPU..." and I think there's a legitimate argument there, but the bezel, c'mon.

For most pros I know 15" isn't big enough either, but there's this little thing on the left side of all of them called a mini display port that lets you plug it into a great big 30" ACD, regardless of the built in screen size.

The 13" may not be as Pro as it's big brothers, but it's not because of the screen size and bezel.

+1

IMO laptops are for portability. If you work with a lot of apps and travel around get a laptop, however when your back home you can always plug it into a larger monitor and have a decent workspace. (Whatever size laptop screen you have + whatever size monitor you have.).

I currently am using this setup as long as I can until I move back home and can buy a pro tower. Works awesome for now.

 

[pesc]

You try using Photoshop professionally on a tiny 13" screen then get back to me.

A "professional" will have a great external screen so a 13" laptop will be fine.

 

[Schtumple]

A "professional" will have a great external screen so a 13" laptop will be fine.

Tada, I have a 23" hooked up to my 15" for video and image work, the people that only use the screens that came with their laptops must be on the road 24-7, which begs the question, how do you charge your laptop??

 

[santos79]

Silly kids, "Pro" is nothing but marketing

As others have already pointed out the "Pro" suffix in the laptop's name doesn't mean anything - its just marketing for the higher priced version. Apple could have called it "Macbook Deluxe" or "Macbook Premium" as well. That would have actually been a more accurate description than "Pro".

What is a "Pro" anyway. You don't have to design 3D video games on it to use it professionally, you know. In fact, the MBP models are much too underpowered for that anyway. Those writing code will use it professionally too, but do not necessarily need more computing power than a Macbook has to offer.

The names "Powerbook" and "iBook" were actually much more accurate. Apple just might be reconsidering its name scheme anyway, given that the last remaining Macbook is getting very long in the tooth.

 

[SpaceKitty]

I don't get why this thread is here. The 13" is a MBP because it says so right below the screen. That's all that counts.

I know I can avoid these threads but these topics are really kind of stupid.

 

[Davidkoh]

You try using Photoshop professionally on a tiny 13" screen then get back to me.

You try claiming to be a proffesional using photoshop on your laptop screen and then get back to me. Any real firm would laugh at your, proffesionals use external screens for the work. At the most they will use the laptop screen to show their progress to clients/bosses, and for that a 13" will do.

 

[Pocket lint]

You try claiming to be a proffesional using photoshop on your laptop screen and then get back to me. Any real firm would laugh at your, proffesionals use external screens for the work. At the most they will use the laptop screen to show their progress to clients/bosses, and for that a 13" will do.

Depends what you do. A press photographer might indeed be using photoshop out in the field. Out in the real life where it's not feasible to use an external monitor any more than it is feasible to carry your own desk and chair.

With that said, though, it's possible to get a 12" notebook with the same resolution as that of the 15" MBP @ about half the weight and twice the battery life, not to mention - room for a CF-card reader in the wide expresscard-slot.

 

[shambo]

Depends what you do. A press photographer might indeed be using photoshop out in the field. Out in the real life where it's not feasible to use an external monitor any more than it is feasible to carry your own desk and chair.

With that said, though, it's possible to get a 12" notebook with the same resolution as that of the 15" MBP @ about half the weight and twice the battery life, not to mention - room for a CF-card reader in the wide expresscard-slot.

You are indeed correct it all depends on ones job.

However I would be interested in knowing where such a 12" exists.

 

[Pocket lint]

You are indeed correct it all depends on ones job.

However I would be interested in knowing where such a 12" exists.

I have one. It's the Thinkpad X200s (it comes as I have it, and one with lesser resolution, but with a web cam).

Oh, and the batteries are swappable